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« Reply #260 on: March 12, 2024, 21:45:32 pm »

Bad news. As of tonight, we can close the Automatic Promotion thread. Mathematically, the highest we can finish is now 3rd.

There was one point, when we couldn't have finished bottom either, but that milestone needs to wait for another day. Hopefully.
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« Reply #261 on: March 12, 2024, 21:50:37 pm »

January 1st, we were 9th, Lincoln were 11th.....4 points behind us having played a game more. Tonight as they currently sit 6-0 up against Cambridge they are 8 points ahead of us now having picked up 26 points from their last 12 games, unbeaten since New Years Day.

Great minds think alike. Difference is that they believed it was still possible, made a couple of excellent signings in the January transfer window and we didn't.
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« Reply #262 on: March 12, 2024, 21:59:18 pm »

Play offs for us was never  possible, we never had the squad to make that challenge.
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« Reply #263 on: March 12, 2024, 22:10:05 pm »

Play offs for us was never  possible, we never had the squad to make that challenge.

Well with the benefit of hindsight that's an easy get out clause that. How do you know how we might have fared had we made three good starting line-up signings on January 1st? Like grange said, we here in a better position than Lincoln.
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« Reply #264 on: March 12, 2024, 22:19:27 pm »

But we didn't make signings that strengthened the squad, not hindsight at all, just common  sense, doesn't matter what anybody else has achieved,  NTFC were never going to make a push for the playoffs with the squad they had at the end of the transfer window.
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« Reply #265 on: March 12, 2024, 22:21:24 pm »

Well with the benefit of hindsight that's an easy get out clause that. How do you know how we might have fared had we made three good starting line-up signings on January 1st? Like grange said, we here in a better position than Lincoln.
We were massively overachieving while Lincoln were underachieving so there was far more scope for Lincoln to improve, while itís no surprise to me that we seem to have run out of steam. Like you say who knows what would have happened but unfortunately the goalkeeper we bought in hasnít worked at all.
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« Reply #266 on: March 12, 2024, 22:23:31 pm »

But we didn't make signings that strengthened the squad, not hindsight at all, just common  sense, doesn't matter what anybody else has achieved,  NTFC were never going to make a push for the playoffs with the squad they had at the end of the transfer window.

Yes but we were calling for those signings to be made but other supporters on here said, no, it was pointless, we had no chance. Lincoln are showing that wasn't the case. We WON at Lincoln just two days before the transfer window opened.
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« Reply #267 on: March 14, 2024, 10:10:08 am »

We were massively overachieving while Lincoln were underachieving so there was far more scope for Lincoln to improve, while itís no surprise to me that we seem to have run out of steam. Like you say who knows what would have happened but unfortunately the goalkeeper we bought in hasnít worked at all.

Hardly over achieving against at least 60% of League One Clubs?
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« Reply #268 on: March 14, 2024, 11:14:46 am »

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« Reply #269 on: March 14, 2024, 11:19:18 am »

We were never going to make the play offs and nor should we. I understand the 'take every opportunity you can' but dont agree with it. I would much rather build a team that can compete in this division and stabilise than I would for 1 'season in the sun' where we get battered every week.

They made the right decision in January. Our place in League 1 was as sealed as it could be, assuming they set the bar very high and either players didn't hit it or we lost out. They know they have a job to do to replace Leonard and Bowie in the summer so I would much prefer all their efforts being on talking to clubs to either get equally good loan signings or players on a permanent deal.

Going to sound a like a sycophant but the club have got this season absolutely spot on. The tricky second season still looms though.
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« Reply #270 on: March 14, 2024, 11:33:46 am »

We were never going to make the play offs and nor should we. I understand the 'take every opportunity you can' but dont agree with it. I would much rather build a team that can compete in this division and stabilise than I would for 1 'season in the sun' where we get battered every week.

They made the right decision in January. Our place in League 1 was as sealed as it could be, assuming they set the bar very high and either players didn't hit it or we lost out. They know they have a job to do to replace Leonard and Bowie in the summer so I would much prefer all their efforts being on talking to clubs to either get equally good loan signings or players on a permanent deal.

Going to sound a like a sycophant but the club have got this season absolutely spot on. The tricky second season still looms though.

Completely wrong. Those chances come up once in a blue moon and every effort has to be taken to try and achieve the dream, however implausible it might seem. We've only risen above our current level once in 127 years, it's as rare as rocking horse s***. I'd much sooner be a Rotherham or a Peterborough (spit) that switch places between the Championship and League 1 on a regular basis than be a yo-yo club between the third or fourth tier. You have to remember one disastrous season for the Millers or Posh could mean they end up in League 2. For us it's the non-league, then what?

Incidentally, are Lincoln really that much bigger a club than us?
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« Reply #271 on: March 14, 2024, 12:15:45 pm »

KT got it exactly right as there was no point in spending our modest budget in the faint hope of reaching the play offs. Had we got there what chance would we have had overcoming 2 of Portsmouth, Derby, Peterborough, Bolton or Barnsley to get promoted?. Our results against these teams show we are a long way off beating 2 of them even with the addition of a couple more signings in January. Better option was to keep the cash for the summer transfer window when we have to replace Leonard and Bowie.
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« Reply #272 on: March 14, 2024, 12:26:56 pm »

KT got it exactly right as there was no point in spending our modest budget in the faint hope of reaching the play offs. Had we got there what chance would we have had overcoming 2 of Portsmouth, Derby, Peterborough, Bolton or Barnsley to get promoted?. Our results against these teams show we are a long way off beating 2 of them even with the addition of a couple more signings in January. Better option was to keep the cash for the summer transfer window when we have to replace Leonard and Bowie.

That remains to be seen. Not holding my breath. Hope you're right though.
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« Reply #273 on: March 14, 2024, 12:31:01 pm »

Completely wrong. Those chances come up once in a blue moon and every effort has to be taken to try and achieve the dream, however implausible it might seem. We've only risen above our current level once in 127 years, it's as rare as rocking horse s***. I'd much sooner be a Rotherham or a Peterborough (spit) that switch places between the Championship and League 1 on a regular basis than be a yo-yo club between the third or fourth tier. You have to remember one disastrous season for the Millers or Posh could mean they end up in League 2. For us it's the non-league, then what?

Incidentally, are Lincoln really that much bigger a club than us?
Wasn't aware an opinion could be completely wrong.
Completely agree with your opinion on being a yoyo between L1 and Champs, disagree on timeline.
No Lincoln are not a bigger club, didnt say they were. They made a decision and good for them. We took a decision and good for us. What I dont know is how much have Lincoln gambled on achieving play offs this year or next and what happens if they dont? I've no idea but Cobblers decided to not take that risk and I think it was the right thing to do.
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« Reply #274 on: March 14, 2024, 12:48:55 pm »

KT got it exactly right as there was no point in spending our modest budget in the faint hope of reaching the play offs. Had we got there what chance would we have had overcoming 2 of Portsmouth, Derby, Peterborough, Bolton or Barnsley to get promoted?. Our results against these teams show we are a long way off beating 2 of them even with the addition of a couple more signings in January. Better option was to keep the cash for the summer transfer window when we have to replace Leonard and Bowie.

Well I wonder why you bother even going if that's the limit of your ambition.

Still, I guess there's plenty of supporters like you and one of the main reasons why we've always remained where we are now.

Did you go to Anfield by the way or did you not bother as what were the chances of us ever beating Liverpool?
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« Reply #275 on: March 14, 2024, 12:55:00 pm »

We were never going to make the play offs and nor should we. I understand the 'take every opportunity you can' but dont agree with it. I would much rather build a team that can compete in this division and stabilise than I would for 1 'season in the sun' where we get battered every week.


Iím not sure how a L1 team can ever prepare for Championship stability? Other than big clubs how many have ever achieved that?
A starter for 10 is a bigger groundÖoh sh*tÖdidnít do MK much good though.

I know I was very unhappy when we lost to Grimsby.
Whether we were ever in a serious position this season is up for debate but I agree it made little sense to tie next seasons budget up in knee jerk signings.
Whether we have built something to kick on next season or face the dreaded drop also remains to be seen.
Will we get another Leonard, or another Hylton?
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« Reply #276 on: March 14, 2024, 12:55:53 pm »

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« Reply #277 on: March 14, 2024, 13:03:21 pm »

Marvo, my reason for going is to support the team instead of sitting on my coach. You are right there are a lot of supporters like me who took the more level headed view of our prospects of even reaching the play offs but our opinions don't effect where we are.
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« Reply #278 on: March 14, 2024, 13:10:57 pm »

The clubs supporters lack of ambition is only surpassed by the clubs lack of ambition. It's like a mirror image. Maybe we deserve each other.
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« Reply #279 on: March 14, 2024, 13:11:13 pm »

As a fan, of course Id have loved them to have splashed out to *try and make up the deficit and earn a play off place. However, the likelihood would have been a few hundred grand out of pocket as a result of doing so. Which is still the most likely outcome as far as Lincoln is concerned. Time will tell on that. Their current chances of promotion are surely no better than a 1 in 6 shot or thereabouts. At best.

BUT if that g@mble had meant the money coming off next seasons budget if it didn't pay off, Id rather that we kept our powder dry and spend it in the summer.

I fully understand Marvo's view point and Id too love to see us have a stab at tier2. I just don't expect someone else to spend their money on my hobby, basically. That isn't a vain pop at Marvo either, we are all coming from it from one angle and debating it. Which is a good thing. Its also interesting.

I reckon it will be Derby, Pompey and Bolton that will go up. Maybe scum, at a push. But 3 from those 4...
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