DavCobb
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We knew you meant ‘us’, ‘we’ and ‘our’ Isn’t that no different to saying it wasn’t worth investing as we never go up? I have a bit more faith that JB won’t totally lose the plot but close season really is crucial and we need to unearth some gems. Totally agree that history tells us not to be too optimistic.
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Manwork04
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Stay put….its overrated.
You’ll suddenly become aware of corporate politics, not nice.
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Rule Britannia
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Winslow Lee
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Totally agree that history tells us not to be too optimistic.
Do people actually give any relevance at all to things that might have happened under different ownership or management or with completely different players?. Think we drew our last two matches against Man City in the league but I wouldn’t put my house on us not losing should we play them again!.
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DavCobb
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Do people actually give any relevance at all to things that might have happened under different ownership or management or with completely different players?. Think we drew our last two matches against Man City in the league but I wouldn’t put my house on us not losing should we play them again!.
It’s hard not to considering the pattern of the last 60 years, which covers most of us on here. After beating Liverpool we can do anyone on a one off….and even a ‘West Ham’ over two legs. As for a season slog, we don’t have too much optimism to go on. It’s a race towards death for all of us whether we’re destined to see anything at a different level again. We’ve seen things like play offs can go either way…if we can get there.
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Shoemender
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I'm not sure a supporter can have ambition,the owners maybe but supporters can put money in and hope for the best.
It isn't a stretch to hope that we might reach the heady heights of the Championship again one day but it won't be with the current owners, or potentially the ones after that. We can but hope. We've been there a couple of times in the past 60 years, you'd hope that the odds of probability mean that we'll do it again one day. There are smaller teams than us who have had a sniff.
If you are a 'Northampton' going up on the first, second or third season, how do you not become a 'Rotherham'? It'd be nice to find out if we had the chance.
Of course we can. I'm a supporter and my ambition is to see us in the Championship before I die.
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DavCobb
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Of course we can. I'm a supporter and my ambition is to see us in the Championship before I die.
Fair enough Shoey. Not a term I’d personally use. I might say I’d love to win the lottery but I wouldn’t say it’s an ambition. I might have an ambition to run 5km under 25 minutes. JB could have an ambition to get a team into the Championship…etc. It’s good to have ambitions though and I’m sure you can help by cheering us on.
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TPFKA Marvo
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Do people actually give any relevance at all to things that might have happened under different ownership or management or with completely different players?. Think we drew our last two matches against Man City in the league but I wouldn’t put my house on us not losing should we play them again!.
Of course its relevant. If you can't learn from experience/history then I'm at a loss what you can learn from. Every club has its rightful place, ours is bottom third of League 1, top third of League 2. We beat Swansea at Wembley but Swansea are a bigger club than us, that's why they are now in the next league up. We lost to Grimsby but they had dropped into non-league while we remained at our level. Derby are always going to get out of this division. If they don't do it this year then they will the next or the one after that. They're a big club, it will happen. Same as it did for Man City, Aston Villa, Ipswich, Sunderland, Leeds, etc, etc. There is nothing about us that would lead you to believe we can be a stable League 1 side, nothing at all. We're just waiting for the inevitable drop back down, its all about preventing that for as long as we can. Don't fret though, we'll get back up again.
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Managers like Bowen and Wilder* are rare to come by! Whether we like it or not Jon Brady is the only recent Manager who can possibly follow in their* footstops!
We should stick with him, as at the moment he is our only hope of survival as a EFL Club!
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Shoemender
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Fair enough Shoey. Not a term I’d personally use. I might say I’d love to win the lottery but I wouldn’t say it’s an ambition. I might have an ambition to run 5km under 25 minutes. JB could have an ambition to get a team into the Championship…etc. It’s good to have ambitions though and I’m sure you can help by cheering us on. It's not my ambition in life, just for the team I support. JB may have an ambition to get a team to the Championship (Cobblers?) just as I have an ambition to see them there. I'd also love to win the lottery, it may help to make the dream a reality. No need to be patronising either.
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Winslow Lee
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Of course its relevant. If you can't learn from experience/history then I'm at a loss what you can learn from.
Every club has its rightful place, ours is bottom third of League 1, top third of League 2. We beat Swansea at Wembley but Swansea are a bigger club than us, that's why they are now in the next league up. We lost to Grimsby but they had dropped into non-league while we remained at our level. Derby are always going to get out of this division. If they don't do it this year then they will the next or the one after that. They're a big club, it will happen. Same as it did for Man City, Aston Villa, Ipswich, Sunderland, Leeds, etc, etc. There is nothing about us that would lead you to believe we can be a stable League 1 side, nothing at all. We're just waiting for the inevitable drop back down, its all about preventing that for as long as we can. Don't fret though, we'll get back up again.
I don’t disagree in terms of our rightful place. What I was getting at was just because since the 70’s we’ve never gone 3 seasons in league 1 without getting relegated it means relegation is inevitable this season or next. People look for patterns that are coincidence and link them as some sort of law as to how the future will unfold. Maybe we do go down next season, it won’t be easy but just because in 75/76 we only lasted one season in the third tier doesn’t mean that there is zero chance of us ever making it four seasons in league 1 or maybe more. I 100% agree we should learn from past failures, I’ve praised the club for not dismantling a promotion winning side and being more proactive with out of contract players but my point was what has happened a long time in the past doesn’t necessarily set in stone what’s going to happen in the future. I just find a lot of these stats mainly used by pundits and commentators facile and of little relevance to now.
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everbrite
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Of course its relevant. If you can't learn from experience/history then I'm at a loss what you can learn from.
Every club has its rightful place, ours is bottom third of League 1, top third of League 2. We beat Swansea at Wembley but Swansea are a bigger club than us, that's why they are now in the next league up. We lost to Grimsby but they had dropped into non-league while we remained at our level. Derby are always going to get out of this division. If they don't do it this year then they will the next or the one after that. They're a big club, it will happen. Same as it did for Man City, Aston Villa, Ipswich, Sunderland, Leeds, etc, etc. There is nothing about us that would lead you to believe we can be a stable League 1 side, nothing at all. We're just waiting for the inevitable drop back down, its all about preventing that for as long as we can. Don't fret though, we'll get back up again.
You appeared to be obsessed with 'every club has its place'. All we need is sufficient funding to become a stable League One Club. That's the obvious way but Bowen did it another way without massive backing and JBrady appears to be going the same route. This sense of inevitability is your Achilles heal, it crops up in many of your posts and you yourself are governed by it. Has it occurred to you that Brady might be able to get us up on a comparative shoe string budget with a side based on team ethos, a happy dressing room and and an all for one attitude. Both this league and the Championship have examples of Clubs, so called big Clubs languishing in or near the bottom of their leagues, like Sheffield Wed plus seven others and in League One we have Reading,Charlton and Wigan. You could include Port Vale who spent a lot of money pre season! The point is you don't need a Sugar Daddy but what is essential is a good Football Manager who is capable of uniting the players to a common purpose. We have one! Whilst Tuesday result was disappointing in the manner it was lost, we ought to hold our nerve and not over react at least not too much! Rome was not built in a day!
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2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
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TPFKA Marvo
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Let's revisit this again, same time, same place, next season.
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Managers like Bowen and Wilder* are rare to come by! Whether we like it or not Jon Brady is the only recent Manager who can possibly follow in their* footstops!
We should stick with him, as at the moment he is our only hope of survival as a EFL Club!
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Bingers
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Let's revisit this again, same time, same place, next season.
I'll be here. We'll see you all next year.
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The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2015
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west stand oap
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Looking on the bright side next year we may have to rename it "automatic promotion watch".
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TPFKA Marvo
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Lincoln are on fire!
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Managers like Bowen and Wilder* are rare to come by! Whether we like it or not Jon Brady is the only recent Manager who can possibly follow in their* footstops!
We should stick with him, as at the moment he is our only hope of survival as a EFL Club!
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tcobb
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Marvo you are obsessed with Lincoln.
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This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.
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TPFKA Marvo
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Last 2 games, won 5-1 away at Barnsley, 6-0 v Cambridge, now 3-0 up at half-time. Wouldn't you prefer that?
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Managers like Bowen and Wilder* are rare to come by! Whether we like it or not Jon Brady is the only recent Manager who can possibly follow in their* footstops!
We should stick with him, as at the moment he is our only hope of survival as a EFL Club!
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TPFKA Marvo
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This was the table on the opening day of the January transfer window. It was at this time Cobblers fans (and the club) gave up on the play-offs. Notice Lincoln are 4 points behind us having played a game more. They are now just 2pts off the play-offs.
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Managers like Bowen and Wilder* are rare to come by! Whether we like it or not Jon Brady is the only recent Manager who can possibly follow in their* footstops!
We should stick with him, as at the moment he is our only hope of survival as a EFL Club!
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everbrite
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Marvo you are obsessed with Lincoln.
Plagiarism!
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2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
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TPFKA Marvo
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Plagiarism! Nice you can find something to smile about.
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Managers like Bowen and Wilder* are rare to come by! Whether we like it or not Jon Brady is the only recent Manager who can possibly follow in their* footstops!
We should stick with him, as at the moment he is our only hope of survival as a EFL Club!
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