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« on: January 05, 2024, 20:33:22 pm »

Continues his vendetta against women commentators in Football, likened two of them to serial killers in a recent x/twitter post. ITV have had a dig back and he's had a hissy fit, too much time on his hands after being sacked by Rovers it would seem
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2024, 20:46:31 pm »

He's a shoo-in if Harry & Paul ever want to revive The Scousers.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2024, 06:52:28 am »

I can't stand the chap.. I don't know if he says it because he believes it or does it to be argumentative
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2024, 07:09:21 am »

I've always been consistent in my opinion of Joey Barton.

I can't stand Joey Barton, mainly due to his antics off the pitch rather than those on it; he's a decent player, just not a decent person.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: what a c*nt.

Joey Barton is a degenerate thug whose very presence demeans our game. I'd be ashamed to have him associated with my club and the Bristol fans who were singing his name the day after there had been court proceedings involving him assaulting his wife should have a long, hard look at themselves. No sour grapes there as our overall performance didn't warrant a win, I've always despised the man, and I use the word "man" in the loosest possible sense.

I see Joey Barton is due in court again tomorrow, not in relation to the ongoing court case dating back to his Fleetwood days but on a new charge of knocking his wife about.

If the Bristol Rovers board have anything about them they'll follow Wales' example and suspend him until the outcome of the court case is known.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2024, 08:28:51 am »

I can't stand the chap.. I don't know if he says it because he believes it or does it to be argumentative
He's not the only one who doesn't want to listen women commentate on men's football.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2024, 08:46:33 am »

He's not the only one who doesn't want to listen women commentate on men's football.

No, not by a long way. It's just most of us don't shout it from the roof tops, preferring to vote with our TV remote.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2024, 09:11:00 am »

No, not by a long way. It's just most of us don't shout it from the roof tops, preferring to vote with our TV remote.
I think that's a point he has made previously.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2024, 09:25:30 am »

He's not the only one who doesn't want to listen women commentate on men's football.

I don't really get the issue with female commentators. When you look at  football coverage on TV there are four main roles - presenter, commentator, interviewer and pundit.

For the first three, to me it makes no difference whatsoever what gender the person filling the role is; as long as they have the required knowledge and the required skills to carry out the role.

The pundit role is more nuanced. We're generally talking about an ex player who is there to provide an insight into things from "the inside". While the game itself is technically the same for both the men's and women's games, I think historically there's a lot more pressure in the men's game, largely due to the crowds and the finances involved. I suspect that culturally there's probably quite a bit of difference in the dressing rooms too.

Some of that might well change in the immediate future with the growing popularity of the women's game, so today's female players at the top level might have a more comparable experience to call upon, but I'm not sure that's quite true of the female former players that they are currently using as pundits. I think this is the point Keegan got himself into a bit of hot water by making a cack handed attempt to express a while back.

It cuts both ways too - when I'm watching women's football I don't really want to hear from the likes of Ian Wright as a pundit and would rather hear from someone like Ellen White.

That said, I think Barton's out and out dismissal of women in sports coverage is inappropriate and the way he chooses to express those opinions is positively prehistoric.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2024, 10:01:30 am »

I have to agree with you.

For me I want to hear from the pundits that have played at the specific level of the match Iím watching. Being a man/woman or any other demographic doesnít bother me in the slightest.

For instance, and Iíll probably get slaughtered for this, Gary Neville has grown on me since becoming a pundit. He knows what the Premier League is about. However, I donít want to hear him on a league 2 match, and heís an owner.

Itís about the level they have played at, simple!
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2024, 10:40:11 am »

Let's be honest, have you ever heard any pundit, man or woman, tell you something that you either didn't already know or could easily see for yourself? They are hardly candidates for mastermind. They are after all just opinions and while they may carry more weight they are no more valuable than yours or mine.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2024, 11:31:06 am »

For me, MotD was at it's best when Gary Linekar and the pundits were on strike...
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2024, 11:33:29 am »

I suppose he knows he's unlikely to work in football again and is venting, easier to do that than look at oneself. Most football pundits know more about the game than me, I like watching football and do appreciate the opinions of professionals, female or male, when watching a match.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2024, 11:38:02 am »

Like Katie Hopkins, he's just a populist who knows where the cheap money is. He might well think some of these things, but he play acts because he knows the subset of people who get mad about the woke are very entrenched in that view, and that its easy to get their love and their attention by saying provocative things, and more importantly let them to listen to the podcast he's hawking.

Lack of attention's the only way to kill him off.

The obviously nuanced view is that its perfectly acceptable to criticise any presenter if you think their content is s*** regrardless of gender, but if you attribute that s***ness to their gender themselves you're a moron.

Presenting is just saying the same platitudes over and over depending on the storyline, and occasionally drawing a link on a screen. It's not a positon that requires you to be an ex professional to do it, and even if thats a benefit, would there be any special benefit in an international ex-player doing it versus a non-league journeyman? I don't think there is, therefore I don't think there's any real worry about the disparity in quality between the womens league and the premiership either.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2024, 11:38:38 am »

I have no issue with female pundits, but there is one on Talksport that sounds like a teenage brat.
Full on, yehbutnobut, innit, am I bovvered, is it tho, no you shaddup.
It is like listening to a Catherine Tate tribute act. She has me reaching for the off button.
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2024, 11:45:55 am »

I have no issue with female pundits, but there is one on Talksport that sounds like a teenage brat.
Full on, yehbutnobut, innit, am I bovvered, is it tho, no you shaddup.
It is like listening to a Catherine Tate tribute act. She has me reaching for the off button.
Clinton Morrison has a similar effect on me  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2024, 11:56:11 am »

I don't really get the issue with female commentators. When you look at  football coverage on TV there are four main roles - presenter, commentator, interviewer and pundit.

For the first three, to me it makes no difference whatsoever what gender the person filling the role is; as long as they have the required knowledge and the required skills to carry out the role.

The pundit role is more nuanced. We're generally talking about an ex player who is there to provide an insight into things from "the inside". While the game itself is technically the same for both the men's and women's games, I think historically there's a lot more pressure in the men's game, largely due to the crowds and the finances involved. I suspect that culturally there's probably quite a bit of difference in the dressing rooms too.

Some of that might well change in the immediate future with the growing popularity of the women's game, so today's female players at the top level might have a more comparable experience to call upon, but I'm not sure that's quite true of the female former players that they are currently using as pundits. I think this is the point Keegan got himself into a bit of hot water by making a cack handed attempt to express a while back.

It cuts both ways too - when I'm watching women's football I don't really want to hear from the likes of Ian Wright as a pundit and would rather hear from someone like Ellen White.

That said, I think Barton's out and out dismissal of women in sports coverage is inappropriate and the way he chooses to express those opinions is positively prehistoric.
Specifically on commentating. Its a personal thing. They are talking to me about a game that I'm either listening to or watching, or both. There's male commentators that I suffer reluctantly like Jonathon Pierce but I can't think of any female commentator I enjoy listening to. Gender specific in my opinion.

On presenting. Not gender specific, prefer Clare Balding and Gabby Logan to Gary Lineker in a more general sporting sense. Really have no time for Alex Scott.

On the women's game in general. Hugely overhyped at the moment. Its a meaningless award, but Mary Earps for SPOTY. Really? She's a pastiche of Jordan Pickford.
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2024, 12:03:17 pm »

Specifically on commentating. Its a personal thing. They are talking to me about a game that I'm either listening to or watching, or both. There's male commentators that I suffer reluctantly like Jonathon Pierce but I can't think of any female commentator I enjoy listening to. Gender specific in my opinion.

On presenting. Not gender specific, prefer Clare Balding and Gabby Logan to Gary Lineker in a more general sporting sense. Really have no time for Alex Scott.

On the women's game in general. Hugely overhyped at the moment. Its a meaningless award, but Mary Earps for SPOTY. Really? She's a pastiche of Jordan Pickford.

And what are your thoughts on Joey Barton?
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2024, 12:23:01 pm »

I like the ITV football league programme better than the ones from previous years. Hardly any chat. Show the goals, show the tables, move on to the next division. After all, when you attend a live game, do you need a commentator or somebody to tell you what happened? They are just space fillers, better than 15 minutes of adverts I suppose but that's about it. When at home, half-time is when you go get a cup of tea, make a sandwich, take a leak.

As for the thread, didn't like Joey Barton as a footballer, or as Bristol Rovers manager, or as a person. However he is entitled to his opinion as much as anybody else, and the more people remark on it the more in demand he'll be. Everybody loves a controversial villain, more fun than a Mr Nice-guy. He's like an annoying wasp, if you can ignore, it'll go away.
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2024, 12:38:43 pm »

If you read the Early Life section of his Wikipedia page it will give you an insight into his later challenges.

When I've come across abusive marital relationships a family history of it is often apparent.
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2024, 12:53:50 pm »

Like Katie Hopkins, he's just a populist who knows where the cheap money is. He might well think some of these things, but he play acts because he knows the subset of people who get mad about the woke are very entrenched in that view, and that its easy to get their love and their attention by saying provocative things, and more importantly let them to listen to the podcast he's hawking.

Lack of attention's the only way to kill him off.

The obviously nuanced view is that its perfectly acceptable to criticise any presenter if you think their content is s*** regrardless of gender, but if you attribute that s***ness to their gender themselves you're a moron.

Presenting is just saying the same platitudes over and over depending on the storyline, and occasionally drawing a link on a screen. It's not a positon that requires you to be an ex professional to do it, and even if thats a benefit, would there be any special benefit in an international ex-player doing it versus a non-league journeyman? I don't think there is, therefore I don't think there's any real worry about the disparity in quality between the womens league and the premiership either.

Very well articulated.......
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