South Africa

[Manwork04]

Long overdue…..
These lot really make my pîss boil.
SA and the pernicious ‘genocide’ accusations at the ICJ are a pile of shît.

Let’s look at SA’s reaction to real genocides, many of which took place in, you guessed it, Africa:

Rwanda 1994, 800,000 dead in three months – SA reaction silence

Syrian civil war, hundreds of thousands dead, including their precious palestinians, courtesy of Syrian helicopters dropping barrel bombs on them, plus mustard gas usage – SA reaction silence

Yemen civil war and Saudia Arabia bombing them back to the stone age, mind you that could be an improvement for that flyblown shïthole. Thousands dead or in the grip of disease and famine, according to the aid adverts on tv.
SA reaction silence

Sudan 2003 and ongoing, about 250,000 killed by Arab janjaweed milita in Darfur.
SA reaction – gave refuge to one of the chief perpetrators, not sure who, but some barbaric savage anyway and they refused to hand him over when the ICJ issued an arrest warrant.

So, fûck off South Africa, put your own shïtty house in order, sort out your rampant corruption, daily murders, rapes, robberies etc and get off your high horse, or better still, keep on it and fûck off into the sunset, never to be heard from again.

[Worthless Recluse]

Hardly surprising given Israels historic support for SA apartheid government.

[singcobb]

Long overdue…..
These lot really make my pîss boil.
SA and the pernicious ‘genocide’ accusations at the ICJ are a pile of shît.

Let’s look at SA’s reaction to real genocides, many of which took place in, you guessed it, Africa:

Rwanda 1994, 800,000 dead in three months – SA reaction silence

Syrian civil war, hundreds of thousands dead, including their precious palestinians, courtesy of Syrian helicopters dropping barrel bombs on them, plus mustard gas usage – SA reaction silence

Yemen civil war and Saudia Arabia bombing them back to the stone age, mind you that could be an improvement for that flyblown shïthole. Thousands dead or in the grip of disease and famine, according to the aid adverts on tv.
SA reaction silence

Sudan 2003 and ongoing, about 250,000 killed by Arab janjaweed milita in Darfur.
SA reaction – gave refuge to one of the chief perpetrators, not sure who, but some barbaric savage anyway and they refused to hand him over when the ICJ issued an arrest warrant.

So, fûck off South Africa, put your own shïtty house in order, sort out your rampant corruption, daily murders, rapes, robberies etc and get off your high horse, or better still, keep on it and fûck off into the sunset, never to be heard from again.

The World ignored the genocide in Rwanda.

Syria continues today, do you see it in the news? The good old US of A carries out drone attacks on targets that suit them, but nobody will go against Assad as he is backed by the Russians.

Yemen civil war and war with the Sauds has been going on for years and will continue while Yemenis carry out terrorist attacks in Saudi Arabia. Nobody says anything because they don't want their oil supply interrupted.

Sudan a broken country divided by religion(sound familiar) half backed by the west the rest backed by their Muslim brothers who will protect them. The ICJ is just a political pawn of the western allies, if they were really about justice Blair and Bush would be rotting in jail.

So, fûck off UK, USA, Europe, put your own shïtty house in order, sort out your rampant corruption, daily murders, rapes, robberies etc and get off your high horse, or better still, keep on it and fûck off into the sunset, never to be heard from again.

The best one was the USA bleating about Apartheid while enacting exactly the same on Native Americans. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Manwork04]

Hardly surprising given Israels historic support for SA apartheid government.

And what a wonderful job the ANC has done.

[Peter Frost]

So, fûck off UK, USA, Europe, put your own shïtty house in order, ....................

Good points on the countries you mention and there are several others worthy of a mention. Western "interference" nearly always has an economic driver but is sold to the people in a couple of ways - firstly its for our security (Iraq being a prime example), or we arrogantly think our form of democracy is better than theirs, (Iraq again) - the reality though is the threats from these nations are actually minimal & whilst some of these despot leaders seem to be evil personified, try using western democratic systems to control a country with 30 plus hostile factions.
Libya is another country we completely f***ed up and I'd put Cameron in the  same cell as Blair - sure Gaddafi was a nasty despot leader if crossed but when I travelled there before 2011 it was safe - it had great hospitals and education systems - now it remains a complete basket case of a country.

[Worthless Recluse]

Good points on the countries you mention and there are several others worthy of a mention. Western "interference" nearly always has an economic driver but is sold to the people in a couple of ways - firstly its for our security (Iraq being a prime example), or we arrogantly think our form of democracy is better than theirs, (Iraq again) - the reality though is the threats from these nations are actually minimal & whilst some of these despot leaders seem to be evil personified, try using western democratic systems to control a country with 30 plus hostile factions.
Libya is another country we completely f***ed up and I'd put Cameron in the  same cell as Blair - sure Gaddafi was a nasty despot leader if crossed but when I travelled there before 2011 it was safe - it had great hospitals and education systems - now it remains a complete basket case of a country.

Couldn't agree more with this to be serious.

[singcobb]

Good points on the countries you mention and there are several others worthy of a mention. Western "interference" nearly always has an economic driver but is sold to the people in a couple of ways - firstly its for our security (Iraq being a prime example), or we arrogantly think our form of democracy is better than theirs, (Iraq again) - the reality though is the threats from these nations are actually minimal & whilst some of these despot leaders seem to be evil personified, try using western democratic systems to control a country with 30 plus hostile factions.
Libya is another country we completely f***ed up and I'd put Cameron in the  same cell as Blair - sure Gaddafi was a nasty despot leader if crossed but when I travelled there before 2011 it was safe - it had great hospitals and education systems - now it remains a complete basket case of a country.

I always thought both Libya and Syria were beautiful countries with such amazing historical sights. Glad I got to see them before some of them were destroyed.

[Peter Frost]

I always thought both Libya and Syria were beautiful countries with such amazing historical sights. Glad I got to see them before some of them were destroyed.

Yep and Iran is the same

[Bingers]

And what a wonderful job the ANC has done.

Well they ended Apartheid, which was originally their big raison D'être. That is a pretty important achievement. Their leader changed from having a status of terrorist to the status of freedom fighter and was widely respected the world over and he did it with dignity. He did it with reconciliation rather than revenge, so really an example to us all.

Without being in full possession of the facts regarding modern day SA, I suspect that there is now some room for improvement in how they do some things.

[singcobb]

Well they ended Apartheid, which was originally their big raison D'être. That is a pretty important achievement. Their leader changed from having a status of terrorist to the status of freedom fighter and was widely respected the world over and he did it with dignity. He did it with reconciliation rather than revenge, so really an example to us all.

Without being in full possession of the facts regarding modern day SA, I suspect that there is now some room for improvement in how they do some things.

When you consider that Mandela had every reason to be a bitter and vengeful man he conducted himself with aplomb and was a true statesman. Unfortunately that has not been continued by his successors.

[Bingers]

Unfortunately that has not been continued by his successors.

Absolutely, but a difficult act to follow. Like Moyes following on from Fergus on or Hondermarck following on from Leonard.

[Manwork04]

The commander in chief and true president Donald Trump had the correct definition of Africa.

[606 Parklands_Cobbler]

to paraphrase the late great Caroline Aherne..

'What first attracted you to the raclst Donald Trump?'