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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2024, 21:07:54 pm »


. Don't want to see clubs throwing a load of money at buying promotion at the first attempt

How about if it had been us, because KT had followed Marvo's advice and invested in a play off push to seize the moment? Would that have been buying promotion?
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2024, 08:57:29 am »

If KT had loosened the purse strings to bring in 2-3 better quality players in January it is highly unlikely he would have bought promotion because if we had reached the play offs we would not have progressed any further. We would still have lost games against the better teams but maybe not have conceded 4 or 5 goals in those games. He would probably have needed to bring in 5 quality players including a GK.

It is a slightly different scenario to Wrexham whose new owners come in and immediately start throwing their cash around attracting players to the National League by offering them better terms than they could get in Divisions 1 or 2. KT has been here about 8 years and if in the future we are in a position to fund the signing of better quality players I have no problem with that because it could not be termed as buying instant success.
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2024, 09:50:50 am »

If KT had loosened the purse strings to bring in 2-3 better quality players in January it is highly unlikely he would have bought promotion because if we had reached the play offs we would not have progressed any further. We would still have lost games against the better teams but maybe not have conceded 4 or 5 goals in those games. He would probably have needed to bring in 5 quality players including a GK.

It is a slightly different scenario to Wrexham whose new owners come in and immediately start throwing their cash around attracting players to the National League by offering them better terms than they could get in Divisions 1 or 2. KT has been here about 8 years and if in the future we are in a position to fund the signing of better quality players I have no problem with that because it could not be termed as buying instant success.
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You do post some nonsense, how on earth would you deduct that if we got into the play offs we would lose, they are by history a complete lottery.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2024, 10:28:16 am »

If KT had loosened the purse strings to bring in 2-3 better quality players in January it is highly unlikely he would have bought promotion because if we had reached the play offs we would not have progressed any further. We would still have lost games against the better teams but maybe not have conceded 4 or 5 goals in those games. He would probably have needed to bring in 5 quality players including a GK.

It is a slightly different scenario to Wrexham whose new owners come in and immediately start throwing their cash around attracting players to the National League by offering them better terms than they could get in Divisions 1 or 2. KT has been here about 8 years and if in the future we are in a position to fund the signing of better quality players I have no problem with that because it could not be termed as buying instant success.

Maybe you would make the playoffs, maybe you wouldn't, maybe you'd win promotion if you got into them, maybe you wouldn't...... but its more likely you'd end up winning a few games towards the end of the season, finish in a higher position and start the following season with a more settled side from the off (assuming those January signings had been brought in on 18 month contracts)

All hypothetical I know.....
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2024, 10:45:57 am »

Fact is, you can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.

The ONLY thing we can be sure of, we haven't made the play-offs by choosing NOT to invest in the team.
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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2024, 11:05:38 am »

Fact is, you can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.

The ONLY thing we can be sure of, we haven't made the play-offs by choosing NOT to invest in the team.
Also can't lose all your life savings, kids uni fund and end up living out of a bin if you dont get a gambling addiction.
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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2024, 11:08:31 am »

Well just to clarify in my opinion if we had brought in 2-3 players I doubt that would have been enough and in the off chance we did reach the play offs not enough to overcome our awful results against the top teams over 3 games. Bookies would have given long odds on us going up.

It is no more nonsense than saying if you don't buy a ticket you don't stand a chance, far more lottery buyers lose each week than win and no I never buy one.
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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2024, 11:35:46 am »

Also can't lose all your life savings, kids uni fund and end up living out of a bin if you dont get a gambling addiction.

Depends if you develop a crack addition instead.
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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2024, 12:32:46 pm »

Depends if you develop a crack addition instead.
In addition to a gambling addiction?
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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2024, 12:49:47 pm »

Well just to clarify in my opinion if we had brought in 2-3 players I doubt that would have been enough and in the off chance we did reach the play offs not enough to overcome our awful results against the top teams over 3 games. Bookies would have given long odds on us going up.

It is no more nonsense than saying if you don't buy a ticket you don't stand a chance, far more lottery buyers lose each week than win and no I never buy one.
Wow the gift that never stops giving, the lottery winning odds are 45,057,473 to 1, where as winning a football match is a 2 horse race, our odds for the Derby match are as follows Northampton - 7/2 Draw - 13/5 Derby - 4/6 as for the bookies they had us as favourites for relegation, so wrong again, thinking isnít your strong point is it.
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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2024, 13:44:52 pm »

Also can't lose all your life savings, kids uni fund and end up living out of a bin if you dont get a gambling addiction.

Wow. Now we're going from one extreme to the other. You hit that out the ballpark.
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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2024, 13:57:43 pm »

Keep the insults coming Manny it is what you are good at but has no effect on me. It is like being back in the school play ground sometimes on here.
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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2024, 14:38:26 pm »

Wow. Now we're going from one extreme to the other. You hit that out the ballpark.
There was 2 options. Spend money and gamble getting promoted. Consolidate what we have and save the money for summer to help stave off the tricky second season.
I can see merit to both. I think they took the right option. You disagree. We'll never know which was the right choice.
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« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2024, 15:16:23 pm »

There was 2 options. Spend money and gamble getting promoted. Consolidate what we have and save the money for summer to help stave off the tricky second season.
I can see merit to both. I think they took the right option. You disagree. We'll never know which was the right choice.

I think we will know. If we get relegated next season then saving "the money for summer to help stave off the tricky second season" will be proven not to have worked.
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« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2024, 15:43:11 pm »

I think we will know. If we get relegated next season then saving "the money for summer to help stave off the tricky second season" will be proven not to have worked.
So the only factor if we get relegated next year is that we didn't spend in January?
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« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2024, 15:50:22 pm »

I think we will know. If we get relegated next season then saving "the money for summer to help stave off the tricky second season" will be proven not to have worked.

I personally think we will be better off not 'splashing the cash', although there is the small matter that there wasn't any to splash. I don't seriously think we would have kicked on and the pickings in the window were pretty slim in our world. The real shame is that we didn't have half a dozen of our crocks fit, although we did manage some fair results whilst many were injured.

We have a pretty large chunk of the budget to 'splash' in the summer, so it is all going to come down to recruitment. If we go down next season it will be down to the summer recruitment and potentially next Jan. We wouldn't normally have the likes of 'hair transplant' leaving at the end of a L1 season.
I think the rest of this season is still pretty important. If we only manage a few more points before the end of the season, it'll be difficult to start next with a totally clean slate.
I dunno, maybe you're right and that it is written in the stars, although we have been known to do a triple L1 campaign.
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« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2024, 17:36:08 pm »

I think we will finish lower next season than we will this. Now if we finish 12th, that's fine, 8 places between us and the drop. However if as I expect we finish lower, say 18th then we've only got a couple of paces to drop.

Having said that, it doesn't really matter does it. If you were put on ice and woke up 50 years from now, chances are the Cobblers will be fighting for promotion in the fourth tier or fighting against relegation from the third.
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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2024, 21:59:34 pm »

I think we will know. If we get relegated next season then saving "the money for summer to help stave off the tricky second season" will be proven not to have worked.

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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2024, 07:48:14 am »

Keep the insults coming Manny it is what you are good at but has no effect on me. It is like being back in the school play ground sometimes on here.
Itís not an insult, itís just an observation, I do like your match previews though.
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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2024, 09:00:05 am »

Grin That will get Larry going!  Cool

Text book Everbrite, trying to agitate another poster into doing his dirty work.
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