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« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2024, 11:05:16 am »

Any sustainable period in the leagues above us is 100% about nothing other than money.

You might get a lucky season and find yourself up, ready to be the whipping boys. But that is about it without serious money.

Didnít happen to Bowen did it. We have already have a decent first team! I thought that was an established POV?
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« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2024, 11:50:35 am »

If and when we win promotion to the Championship I expect us to do an Ipswich and go straight through to the Premiership. Back in the 60's it took us 2 seasons so I expect us to go 1 better next time.
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« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2024, 12:05:57 pm »

Dont forget 10 million quid on their new (for one year prem season only) stand.
I dont seem to recall terms like :  tin pot, non league, rusting, tiny, not fit for purpose, wrong type of lights, not enough seats, moneygrabbing, hemmed in, being used by fans on their forum though. Perhaps they are just more realistic fans, instead of the fickle vociferous few on that we have on here, who no doubt elsewhere on social media, cant wait to get their teeth into the completed market square.
I think the new Market Square is fabulous and will be a great asset to the Town

The East stand is a non league standard that's costing way too much at £5.8m and should've been spent more wisely to benefit the football club more in the long term..
Luton had no choice if they wanted prem football to be played in Luton..
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« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2024, 12:31:48 pm »

Of course we should be looking to push on as that is away to establish yourself as a confident League 1 Club. Itís astonishing how some fans express the negative view that ! Money alone does not buy success and would have thought there is ample evidence to support this opinion as a fact? Good post batteryman! Well done!





Perhaps to substantiate your point. You would do me the honour of highlighting just one person who has said "just surviving is sufficient". I have seen plenty of evidence of people saying that it is important that we stay up. But nearly always this is followed by them stating that is so we can improve on things in the future.

In terms of your ridiculous comment: "Money alone does not buy success and would have thought there is ample evidence to support this opinion as a fact?"

In football it certainly does. The clubs with the top seven wage bills. Occupy the top seven spots in league football. The bottom three wage bills in the premier league, all occupy the the bottom three slots. Of course there will always be the odd exception. But it certainly does buy success.
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« Reply #84 on: May 09, 2024, 12:40:31 pm »

Money doesn't buy success but it helps to get you started if used appropriately, correctly and with a prudent strategy...  Wink
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« Reply #85 on: May 09, 2024, 12:46:33 pm »

Money doesn't buy success but it helps to get you started if used appropriately, correctly and with a prudent strategy...  Wink
Of course money buys success, look at Newcastle as a case in point or Ipswich or Derby in our division, one things for sure having the lowest budget in the division puts you on the back foot in a negative position. FACT.
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« Reply #86 on: May 09, 2024, 12:53:22 pm »

IF we have the lowest budget! FACT
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« Reply #87 on: May 09, 2024, 13:22:19 pm »

I think the new Market Square is fabulous and will be a great asset to the Town

The East stand is a non league standard that's costing way too much at £5.8m and should've been spent more wisely to benefit the football club more in the long term..
Luton had no choice if they wanted prem football to be played in Luton..
I dont believe you. If you think that £5.8m is excessive, than you must have the same opinion about the 10m (and rising) being spent on the market square. Im surprised that you havent started counting the new slabs yet, to work out how many more could have been squeezed in, and the subsequent loss of income.
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« Reply #88 on: May 09, 2024, 13:36:44 pm »

I donít understand the point of the new market square but happily see a positive change. Even as an extremely liberal person, town centre feels like being dropped into Iím not quite sure where. Itís currently a horrible environment. Maybe itíll be money well spent?
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« Reply #89 on: May 09, 2024, 13:49:29 pm »

Money doesn't buy success but it helps to get you started if used appropriately, correctly and with a prudent strategy...  Wink

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« Reply #90 on: May 09, 2024, 14:17:45 pm »

Perhaps to substantiate your point. You would do me the honour of highlighting just one person who has said "just surviving is sufficient". I have seen plenty of evidence of people saying that it is important that we stay up. But nearly always this is followed by them stating that is so we can improve on things in the future.

In terms of your ridiculous comment: "Money alone does not buy success and would have thought there is ample evidence to support this opinion as a fact?"

In football it certainly does. The clubs with the top seven wage bills. Occupy the top seven spots in league football. The bottom three wage bills in the premier league, all occupy the the bottom three slots. Of course there will always be the odd exception. But it certainly does buy success.

Plenty of comments falliing under Ďrealisticí but am dismayed by the comments of Welly and 151 (message number 26). Itís all very well supporting Chelsea and the obscene fees they pay out. Is it not obvious that money is not always the panacea for success. A good defence or as Manwork says Ďa good spineí is the prime reason for a Clubs success. Bowen, Dodgin,Carr and CW thought so! Why not you?
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« Reply #91 on: May 09, 2024, 15:41:23 pm »

I genuinely believe if Wilder had stayed we'd have not only stayed up but also improved. I realise that was never going to happen and also that his subsequent success was also helped massively by the fact that United offered a much better platform than we ever could. No real point here, just saying....

That said, I'm optimistic for next season. We have a good manager on an upward curve. We've progressed every (full) season he's been in charge so I'm hopeful that will continue. Yes, there are rabbits to be pulled from hats to fill what seem like significant gaps but he's established a successful record with young players from Prem clubs so who knows what might be cooking.

Yes, our previous history of failing to retain tenure might create some niggling doubt but we're a lot more stable this time than we were last time so....
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« Reply #92 on: May 10, 2024, 07:01:44 am »

Plenty of comments falliing under Ďrealisticí but am dismayed by the comments of Welly and 151 (message number 26). Itís all very well supporting Chelsea and the obscene fees they pay out. Is it not obvious that money is not always the panacea for success. A good defence or as Manwork says Ďa good spineí is the prime reason for a Clubs success. Bowen, Dodgin,Carr and CW thought so! Why not you?

Lucky for you that you decided to meander around the ridiculousness of what you said. Rather than offering a salient response to the solid evidence presented to counter your point. 
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