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« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2024, 19:39:00 pm » |
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An important 3 points. Orient look mediocre and relegation fodder on that performance. All the lads put in a shift and defensively we were very sound for the most part. Eaves deserved more support up front.
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« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2024, 20:34:16 pm » |
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A poor game with very little quality on view. In the first half Orient passed the ball better than us but had no end product.
Our midfield trio Sowerby, Fox and McGeehan ran a lot and scrapped for the ball but didn't produce a meaningful pass between the three of them.
Second half and McGeehan shows that knack of reacting to knock downs to put us ahead. After that we broke up Orient's passing game and our determination to fight for the points meant we were just worth the win in the end.
The performance of Nesta Guiness-Walker was a real plus and good that Eaves lasted 90 minutes even if he'd run himself to a standstill.
We'll play much better than this and lose, just as we did against Mansfield, so this was a good 3 points.UTC.
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« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2024, 21:22:10 pm » |
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Apart from the punched save I thought Burge was overall a lot better than we had seen in recent matches.
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« Reply #63 on: October 19, 2024, 21:51:19 pm » |
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An important 3 points. Orient look mediocre and relegation fodder on that performance. All the lads put in a shift and defensively we were very sound for the most part. Eaves deserved more support up front.
Bear in mind all the money they spent last season,some of our fans bemoaned us for not showing the same ambition. A 4million loss when winning division 2,god knows how much last year. Owner's now desperately seeking investment. |
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« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2024, 08:14:58 am » |
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As much I want to see Roberts and Fosu in the team ahead of Hoskins and Pinnock, I thought we defended better from the front with Eave's backed up from a packed midfield.
Maybe against Stockport we will need Robert's quality to hold onto the ball more.
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« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2024, 09:01:41 am » |
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As much I want to see Roberts and Fosu in the team ahead of Hoskins and Pinnock, I thought we defended better from the front with Eave's backed up from a packed midfield.
Maybe against Stockport we will need Robert's quality to hold onto the ball more.
I think this is all subjective and should be taken with a large pinch of salt. Yes we defended better at home against Orient than we did away against Wrexham. Would Wrexham have ripped our new and improved defensive unit with Hoskins and Pinnock apart - probably. Would we have of been out of sight had we had Fosu and Roberts in the side against Orient, who knows. Was this a stroke of genius by Brady or were we simply playing a team at home we should be beating after a couple of very tricky games? |
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« Reply #66 on: October 20, 2024, 09:04:07 am » |
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I do find some peoples responses to the game very interesting. I hear talk of defending better and picking a team better equipped to win. For me this seems very reactionary and based entirely on the outcome rather than the actual game itself. Like Orient I thought we were very poor. They had some great chances and but for awful finishing could have been out of sight by half time. We created next to nothing but luckily scored a winner from a scrambled set piece. More often than not if we continue to play like this we’ll lose the vast majority, I would must rather see us play like against Mansfield which we were unlucky to lose and normally would see us win.
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« Reply #67 on: October 20, 2024, 10:53:57 am » |
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Must be a let down for those who appeared to have a jaundiced view of the team selected and who actually won with no goal conceded to boot! For the record I thought that Pinnock did ok, he certainly worked hard. Burge was the epitome of a sound display as was Guthrie and the defence played ok exemplified by Magloire performance at right back! We won because we had a player who had the ability to be in the right place ….right time. For me that match winning goal galvanised the team to exhibit a degree of confidence. Nesta appears to be a great find
Some of the earlier comments on this thread were very much of a negative nature and the grudging disappointment at the result suggests some have issues with Club and Manager even with the players! Time some of you got a life!
Well done Brady and McGeeham as the win was appreciated by me and a relief.
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« Reply #68 on: October 20, 2024, 10:56:50 am » |
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I think this is all subjective and should be taken with a large pinch of salt.
Yes we defended better at home against Orient than we did away against Wrexham. Would Wrexham have ripped our new and improved defensive unit with Hoskins and Pinnock apart - probably. Would we have of been out of sight had we had Fosu and Roberts in the side against Orient, who knows.
Was this a stroke of genius by Brady or were we simply playing a team at home we should be beating after a couple of very tricky games?
Spot on, its very possible tyat had Fosu and Roberts started, we may have been out of sight, we will never know. One thing is for sure Hoskins is putting in his prior purple patch consistent passenger performances week in week out and pinnock is well, well below the standards set in recent years. As you say, with Stockport in mind on Tuesday we will need to hold the ball up better and offer more going forward. So will be intresting to see if Brady sticks, twists or changes one. |
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« Reply #69 on: October 20, 2024, 13:08:32 pm » |
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Some of the earlier comments on this thread were very much of a negative nature and the grudging disappointment at the result suggests some have issues with Club and Manager even with the players! Time some of you got a life!
Absolute nonsense. I’m sure everyone is happy to take three points. In the same way it’s ok to be gutted when we play well and lose, there is nothing wrong with being objective and seeing that the win relied on some poor finishing and defending from the opposition. In my opinion we’ve played better than yesterday and lost, hey that’s football, it’s not always fair. It doesn’t have to be an attack on the club, manager or players. |
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« Reply #70 on: October 20, 2024, 13:08:58 pm » |
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Must be a let down for those who appeared to have a jaundiced view of the team selected and who actually won with no goal conceded to boot! For the record I thought that Pinnock did ok, he certainly worked hard. Burge was the epitome of a sound display as was Guthrie and the defence played ok exemplified by Magloire performance at right back! We won because we had a player who had the ability to be in the right place ….right time. For me that match winning goal galvanised the team to exhibit a degree of confidence. Nesta appears to be a great find
Some of the earlier comments on this thread were very much of a negative nature and the grudging disappointment at the result suggests some have issues with Club and Manager even with the players! Time some of you got a life!
Well done Brady and McGeeham as the win was appreciated by me and a relief.
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« Reply #71 on: October 20, 2024, 17:54:35 pm » |
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Absolute nonsense. I’m sure everyone is happy to take three points. In the same way it’s ok to be gutted when we play well and lose, there is nothing wrong with being objective and seeing that the win relied on some poor finishing and defending from the opposition. In my opinion we’ve played better than yesterday and lost, hey that’s football, it’s not always fair. It doesn’t have to be an attack on the club, manager or players.
In your opinion and not in my opinion. In the early pages of this thread there were some misleading negative comments which you appeared to ignore! What was illuminating was some grugding comments on the team put out by Brady yet again you fail to note them? Seems to me you are defending those who make repetitive negative comments; good luck with that! Well done Brady for having the strength of character to play his own men and achieve a notable result. The much maligned McGeehan scored the winner and is now our leading scorer; you could not even express a simple laudit for that winning goal! |
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« Reply #72 on: October 20, 2024, 20:35:14 pm » |
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In your opinion and not in my opinion. In the early pages of this thread there were some misleading negative comments which you appeared to ignore! What was illuminating was some grugding comments on the team put out by Brady yet again you fail to note them? Seems to me you are defending those who make repetitive negative comments; good luck with that! Well done Brady for having the strength of character to play his own men and achieve a notable result. The much maligned McGeehan scored the winner and is now our leading scorer; you could not even express a simple laudit for that winning goal!
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« Reply #73 on: October 20, 2024, 20:52:53 pm » |
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Ever feel like you’re swimming against the tide?
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« Reply #74 on: October 21, 2024, 07:49:31 am » |
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My opinion of the game for what its worth.
We didn't get going in the first half I thought our midfield were all over the place as we didn't win a second ball.
2nd half midfield took control of the game a bit more, we won the 2nd balls and took our chance when we had it.
To be honest about the performance, we were better defensively but it was Leyton Orient a team arguably we should be beating, we were still trying to ping crossfield balls when the easy pass was on, you can afford to lose possession against this kind of opposition but you would get killed against the big boys.
I think if we hadn't had been so abject defensively the last few weeks Roberts and Fosu would have started, but I think this was a game we couldn't afford to lose and Roberts and Fosu don't offer much defensively.
Guinness-Walker - Great performance def worth a longer deal based on a couple of games.
Hoskins - Quiet game did nothing wrong but didn't affect the game going forward either.
Pinnock - Improvement on previous weeks, but still he doesn't seem to have any drive, he looks like he is jogging, waving legs in tackles and even though he won a few headers there was no real conviction from him or challenge from the opposition, but positional discipline was / is probably the reason he gets in.
Overall better but I think if our form had of been better in the lead up he would have been more attacking
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« Reply #75 on: October 21, 2024, 11:07:18 am » |
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After JB's comments in midweek I wasn't surprised at the starting 11 as he was going back to his tried and trusted players and he can say that it worked as we got the 3 points. However, we were poor in the first half and Orient were causing us problems at the back and missed 2 good chances but we tightened up in the second half, kept our shape and they couldn't find a way through.
We were not committing players forward and Eaves was isolated up front so that when he won the ball in the air there was nobody to get onto the second ball. It looked like the only way we were going to score was from a set piece and so it proved from Pinnock's long throw but the game could easily have finished 0-0 and JB would have said it was a good point against a good team. I don't see why people are saying we expect to beat teams like Orient as they are pretty much the standard as ourselves and we didn't win either game last season but it was a game we should have been targeting to win.
We certainly need to adopt more attacking tactics for the next 2 home games against Crawley, who have conceded 9 goals in their last 2 games, and Cambridge but JB may go with similar tactics in away games.
Finally I was amused by an Orient fan posting on the division 1 forum at half time whose view of the first half was along the lines of "we have played some pretty football but we are all fart and no poo, I see a 1-0 defeat coming".
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« Reply #76 on: October 21, 2024, 15:00:58 pm » |
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Regarding Fosu;
I suspect his performance in the first half at Notts County cost him any real consideration of being in the starting 11 for this match. He was very poor, possibly disinterested.
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« Reply #78 on: October 21, 2024, 18:43:15 pm » |
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A "grade 1" (the least significant presumably) knock ! |
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« Reply #79 on: October 22, 2024, 12:46:32 pm » |
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I do find some peoples responses to the game very interesting. I hear talk of defending better and picking a team better equipped to win. For me this seems very reactionary and based entirely on the outcome rather than the actual game itself. Like Orient I thought we were very poor. They had some great chances and but for awful finishing could have been out of sight by half time. We created next to nothing but luckily scored a winner from a scrambled set piece. More often than not if we continue to play like this we’ll lose the vast majority, I would must rather see us play like against Mansfield which we were unlucky to lose and normally would see us win.
This is exactly my thoughts. |
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