I can
The Trust is as new as you want it to be, why not join? or 'come' to a zoom board meeting?
Fans are not really paying for anything, have you see the joining fee?
We are starting to hold the club to account, did you read the presentation, ?
The Trust have democratically elected members, we are valued by some and some very important people at that.
No Trust board can work with the club at the moment, sorry but as soon as anyone upsets KT thats the end. He is fine when you are not pushing him or holding him to account.
Whose going to start this new supporter group? YOU, Hammy, Evers?
The 2 who put themselves up to be Directors?
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water
Tell me / the Trust EXACTLY what you want us to do. If it's work with the club, then fine, contact KT / GW / JW and see what response you get.
Agree have one travel club, I totally agree but again, YOU get the 3 parties together and see what happens.
Very easy to sit on here and type you should do this, you should do that, but again with a few active board members, trying to do everything on the cheap, against KT with £6m annually, PR & media staff plus local media if aint easy.
I / We get knocked for too little action, too much, being too aggressive, to being too laid back, for not having plans, for not having support, etc etc.
We don't represent the fans - well sorry but WTF does that actually mean?
What do the fans actually want that in the short term that the Trust can change or have any say in? And even then who do we listen to? You, Hammy, Manwork, Who? someone pro club ? someone anti-club? you tell me who and how?
Everyone has different feelings and opinions on every subject.
Some of us are trying to make improvements for YOUR football club. Do you want to keep playing Sutton, Crawley, Stevenage and the like, because I know I don't.
The poll recently on here i posted showed almost no-one wanted League 2 football. We all wanted L1 as a minimum.
Its time for not only the Trust to change (which it is doing but again thats wrong cos some of us are too active) but all of us fans too, time again to start taking actions, time to thinking bigger thoughts and all working towards making NTFC the club we want.
Trouble is it take effort and upsetting the apple cart a bit - which again some don't like (and some do)
A lot of words there but again not one denial of any of the points I made.
Can you just own the fact that the trust gave up board representation and declined to attempt to regain a place on the board???
If you can’t begin to accept/own that then you will struggle to accept that the trust has now been marginalised.
As regards the fact that the trust doesn’t represent paying members….
Decisions are made by a trust board without consulting the membership…
Can you deny that???
What sort of business that has a paying membership does that??
Your local working men’s club is run better than ntfc trust imo
Maybe ask someone who knows how to put things to the vote as regards membership.
These are all basic principals of asking people to pay membership fees….
If a working men’s club wants to open for longer hours than normal it informs the membership and gives paying members the chance to vote before taking the results to a council meeting.
Ntfc trust give up board representation without informing paying members and then have a fortnight to ask paid up members whether or not one of their board members should consider standing in an attempt to regain a place on the clubs board(the very essence of the trust being formed)
How can they think this is acceptable.
Even more so IF they (and again the royal they)think it is acceptable why have they not resigned en masse as a board??
It is a clique in every sense imo and now anyone who challenges that perception with FACTS is not even given the courtesy of an admission (although in fairness Keith,who may or may not be on the board did admit that the trust gave up board representation)
Do I think less of him??
No I think more of him because he is willing to own the perceived error rather than ignore the issue
Is it any wonder that I see the trust as defunct??
The more trust members post on here without owning previous errors(il help you again just as I did six years ago….failing to attempt to regain a place on the clubs board while purporting to represent the fan base will come back to haunt the trust)
The more the flat denial goes on the more it shows a group of friends attempting to wield power over a fan base whilst neglecting to ask their opinion of a paid membership at every twist and turn.
The trust are clinging on by their fingernails and anyone who sees this as other than a forfeit of power is frankly misguided.
If they must continue as an entity they imo should still hold car boot sales whilst allowing the fan rep to get on with his job
Representing the fans.
The job the trust was originally set up for….
They could also ask the rep for clarification about the 10k they lent/gave the board that they themselves have failed to address over the last six years.