[quote author=Shoemaker link=topic=5547.msg449003#msg449003 date=1634113716
It’s the trust who keep bringing up the £10,000 fiasco
I’m just responding to the fact that the trust keep mentioning it.
You can go back through threads to confirm that the trust keep bringing the situation up if you wish.
It would take five minutes flat to draw up a legal document stating whether money is gifted or lent.
That isn’t legal eagle stuff!!
Was no one on the board at the time intelligent enough to realise that this clarity was needed??
They should have been given what the club had just been through.
In the same way the trust point out that the club haven’t delivered on their £4m redevelopment promise (was that ever in writing?) and constantly bring up the perceived failings of the clubs owners and keep banging on about unanswered questions , all I am doing is highlighting that the trust are acting in the same way.
Six years on no one has explained what actually went on with the 10k and what protocols were followed.
If not and you were not on the trust board at the time and therefore wouldn’t actually know any more than other posters would someone from the trust please step up and answer the question once and for all (preferably someone who was making the decisions at the time however uncomfortable that may be).
Once that has been put to bed the trust will be in a better position to scrutinise the redevelopment or the Chinese investment or fan ownership or whatever scheme they think of next.
Tidy up your own desk and explain what actually occurred regards the 10k , who were the trust board members who decided to pass the money on and what protocols were in place.
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This is 100% factual about what happen.
Your first point, please show me where the Trust have bought up the £10K recently, the only person going on about it is you.
There was an agreement drawn up and signed by James Whiting on behalf of NTFC, and some of the people on the Trust board at that time were and still are a lot more intelligent than you.
The £4M development agreement was between NBC and KT/DB, the Trust only brokered the deal.
KT initially denied that the £10 was his debt, saying it was DC's debt, but changed his view after being told the details by JW. The Trust were, eventually, asked if they would be happy with the £10K being spent on supporters facilities to which they agreed. After a while NTFC said that they wanted a large marque behind the North and asked for more cash. The Trust were not happy about the security situation of a marque at the bottom of the hill, being open to having anything lobbed down on it and also the fact that nothing of value could be left in the marque, so declined the offer of putting £10K into something that would, probably, been damaged beyond repair inside the first year. That was the last time it was mentioned by NTFC. The money for the team coach to Crawley was not taken from the £10K loan, it was a separate "donation" from the Trust.
The Trust board had total agreement to loan the club the £10K as we were told by JW that quite a few key members of staff would leaving if they didn't get paid and it would be difficult to run the club without these staff members
For the majority of people on here, you will have read this time and time again, but Shoemakers selective memory seems to have skipped it.
Lovely roger
First point
Show me where the trust have bought up the issue of 10k
Ok roger perhaps read the post above where random whoever he is (apparently something to do with the trust) admits he is responsible for raising the issue
Is that factual enough for you ??
Apology on the way I assume??
Secondly you’ve done everything but answer my question.
Were you on the board at the time and were any protocols put in place regarding the 10k or was it a case of Theres your ten grand perhaps,maybe , sometime you’d like to consider giving us it back old chap.
Once again is anyone from the trust actually going to show me the courtesy of answering that question
I’m aware of the reasons it was decided to pay it but that is clearly not the question I asked.
Something like ‘no we gave the 10k to the board without anything in writing and naively believed in a verbal agreement
Or
We put several legal parameters in writing before handing over the money which stipulated it must be returned to the trust at a further date….
There you go I’m even trying to help you with some answers there ,seems as the trust find it so hard
Once again please answer the question so we can finally find out how the issue was dealt with.
It wasn’t your money it was trust MEMBERS money and as MEMBERS they have the right to an honest answer.
Thankyou.
