NaggerPagger
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Looking forward to seeing the redesigned plans for the East stand, just hope this redevelopment is being planned properly and things are not being rushed.
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BedsCobb
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Looking forward to seeing the redesigned plans for the East stand, just hope this redevelopment is being planned properly and things are not being rushed.
22 years waiting is hardly rushing things? We still haven't been shown proposals or invited to put forward ideas as to how the clubs supporters wish to have the ground look like. Hopefully the new regime will have the right ideas to give the club a chance without it taking blooming yonks.
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The 12th Marquis of Sixfields
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or invited to put forward ideas as to how the clubs supporters wish to have the ground look like.
they could hand deliver an invite written in blood on goat skin and you wouldn't respond, you're scared to send an email
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Vince Planner
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they could hand deliver an invite written in blood on goat skin and you wouldn't respond, you're scared to send an email
Can't you two just pm each other so the rest of us don't have to wade through hundreds of your inane posts?
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guest2934
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Almost irrelevant now as I'm sure the new investors will expand the stadium and provide those all important match day and non match day revenue sources, but, it has been mentioned many times throughout this thread about funding. It may only be a small development but again many here have suggested a couple of thousand extra seats wouldn't go a miss. Stevenage are looking at raising some cash through supporters for a 1600 seat stand, with cash also coming through a grant. http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40632879It was suggested by someone here around a decade ago about an online, direct debit type system to pay as much or as little as you like towards raising funds for a "fans stand" this was before the debacle began when it was obvious Cardoza was just sitting on his hands waiting for loan money, we all know why now. It will just be interesting to see if little Stevenage do persuade some supporters to stump up extra cash as when a similar scheme was suggested on here most were against it or thought nobody would give a shit. Well I for one would've donated and I'm sure many others would also have donated to a properly arranged stand fund, totaliser in the paper etc. I would quite happily have donated £20-30 a month and if 1500 other diehards had joined me we'd have over £5m quid to play with now, that's 5000 extra seats. Of course things are all very different now but it just proves if we'd have spent less time arguing.....
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tcobb
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A few years back on the old forum i suggested something very similar, where supporters, either through the Trust or the Club could raise money to help towards the cost of building a new Stand. I was told then it was a laughable suggestion. So lets all laugh at Stevenage.
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This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.
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meccanostand
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Yes good idea. Was discussed a few pages back in terms of an infrastructure foundation with an element of crowd funding similar to Foundation Of Hearts at Heart of Midlothian in Scotland. They have an ace new stand being bullt as we speak.
Even if the Chinese have got a redevelopment in hand, it could be used for other infrastructure such as a club owned training ground or facilities for fans etc.
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guest49
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Can you imagine if we had set a fund up? If Dave can make £10m of council money disappear after spending another million trying to find it, I'm sure he could have taken care of a few direct debits. The control and use of the fund during our darkest hour came under scrutiny.
Nothing against KT and partners but the only way I'd be donating these days is by sending deliveries of bricks to the ground.
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Zen Master
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David Kennedy had resigned from NBC
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I think someone should just take this city of Peterborough and just... just flush it down the f***in' toilet
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rebelspawn
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A few years back on the old forum i suggested something very similar, where supporters, either through the Trust or the Club could raise money to help towards the cost of building a new Stand. I was told then it was a laughable suggestion. So lets all laugh at Stevenage.
There is a significant difference between a bond that pays 4% to investors and a charitable donation. We raised 50K in our darkest hour, on the brink of extinction. If you think a charitable 'stand fund' would surpass that, then i beg to differ...
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guest2934
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There is a significant difference between a bond that pays 4% to investors and a charitable donation.
We raised 50K in our darkest hour, on the brink of extinction. If you think a charitable 'stand fund' would surpass that, then i beg to differ...
Of course you can beg to differ that's idea of a forum! In any case it's wholly irrelevant now due to our change in circumstances but it was just out of interest as to how Stevenage get on. Raising fast cash for a sinking football team is very different to a long term tangible asset for the club and community. For what it's worth I think you will see many schemes similar to raise infrastructure funds, as meccano states. It's also happening with private developments as there are so many new avenues to raise capital. I doubt very much that Cardoza could have found a way to access funds paid into trust or another registered account, but then again he was a total ba stard. As I say though purely out of interest as I'm a developer and love football so I'm afraid sometimes the stadium can be of more interest to me than the football!
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DrillingCobbler
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What people continue to fail to factor in (ref a fans fund raising campaign to raise cash) is that the club is over 95% owned buy an individual/group of individuals who have no affiliation to the club other than an investment. The club is effectively an asset. DC for years saw it that way, now KT does.
Whilst we have 'outsiders' as owners they are not going to consider joint ventures with supporters because the first thing the fans would want if they were to finance the building of a new stand would be equity. There is a big fat zero chance of anybody giving money on a regular basis if all they are doing is increasing the value of the business for the company shareholders.
If the club was owned/run by 'fans' then those sort of schemes would I think work. But in our current setup, its a non starter.
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rebelspawn
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Of course you can beg to differ that's idea of a forum! In any case it's wholly irrelevant now due to our change in circumstances but it was just out of interest as to how Stevenage get on. Raising fast cash for a sinking football team is very different to a long term tangible asset for the club and community.
For what it's worth I think you will see many schemes similar to raise infrastructure funds, as meccano states. It's also happening with private developments as there are so many new avenues to raise capital. I doubt very much that Cardoza could have found a way to access funds paid into trust or another registered account, but then again he was a total bastard.
As I say though purely out of interest as I'm a developer and love football so I'm afraid sometimes the stadium can be of more interest to me than the football!
Sinking club vs tangible asset - i agree. In the same way that a bond paying 4% is attractive to number of investors in ways that asking for charitable donations is not. I too am interested to see the various ways that clubs are raising finances and boosting revenues. Crowdfunding is big business these days, they all aim to deliver something to the backers. Just from a personal point of view, i would not be interested in giving significant charitable donations towards a new stand but i would definitely be interested in a 5 year bond paying 4% that would help me, whilst also helping the club.
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Deepcut Cobbler
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Where would you get 4% from?
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rebelspawn
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Where would you get 4% from?
I think i read it in the article about the Stevenage mini-bonds, posted earlier in the thread.
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GrangeParkCobbler
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Didn't want this thread disappearing two or three pages down, never to be seen again!! Got to get to 1000 pages!!!
Anyway, sort of redev and sort of takeover, Mr Yat Au Yeung and Mr Gui Dong Zheng were registered as Directors of NTFC on 23rd June 2017, details posted on Companies House last Thursday.
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ajp
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The bit you want starts at 2:44.
I make it you should hear something between 29th June-29th July approximately.
Times nearly up then..
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Manwork04
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The east stand is jinxed FACT.
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Rule Britannia
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LeeleeSTAR
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Wasn't that video made before the takeover sorry investment was announced? if so plans for the east stand may have changed since he said he would like to be able to give an update in 30-60 days.
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