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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #20700 on: November 13, 2017, 13:25:52 pm »

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2017/november/kelvin_thomas_facebookqa_nov17/

As part of the clubís commitment to communication and openness with supporters, Northampton Town Chairman Kelvin Thomas will take part in a social media Q&A with supporters on Wednesday evening.

The Cobblers Chairman will be available on the club's official Facebook page - facebook.com/northamptontownfc for a question and answer session with supporters from 7pm until 8pm on Wednesday.

To take part, please look out for the thread that will appear on the club's Facebook page at 7pm on Wednesday inviting your questions for the Chairman.
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« Reply #20701 on: November 13, 2017, 15:38:03 pm »

Good point raised by meccano about land contamination.  This probably rules out housing development and with these issues must affect the land value.

I wouldn't say that report was scaremongering but you can pretty much build anywhere after the relevant remediation. I live a stone throw away and had to jump through hoops before I could complete on a 12 year old house. I had to request the evidence of remediation from the original builder, get a copy of the original site plan, pay for a fast track Radon test and was knocking on my prospective neighbours doors to see if their children had 6 fingers.
If they were able to build Sixfields originally, that's without the host of businesses along the rollercoaster road, they'd be able to build housing on that plot of land. It just may be that it wouldn't be as straightforward as they were hoping (although pretty obvious that landfill is complicated to complete remediation on) and therefore pricing it out for some property developers. Always thought it was a strange place
to plonk houses, the clue is in the chimneys.

Maybe the FB session will reveal that, the Chinese links to 'education' and much, much more...but it is better to under promise and over deliver. 
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« Reply #20702 on: November 13, 2017, 17:19:57 pm »

There you go Beds a good chance to get your questions over to KT. Just ask if there is a development master plan and what it entails. Job done.

RE the contamination I seem to remember a portion of the Sixfields site was underlined with concrete after being made safe. Think this is why the pitch is dead flat while the rest undulates so there may be a hefty piece of land that needs expensive work done on it. Cardoza's plans had x millions towards making the site safe I recall in the midsts of time.
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« Reply #20703 on: November 13, 2017, 20:39:53 pm »

There you go Beds a good chance to get your questions over to KT. Just ask if there is a development master plan and what it entails. Job done.

RE the contamination I seem to remember a portion of the Sixfields site was underlined with concrete after being made safe. Think this is why the pitch is dead flat while the rest undulates so there may be a hefty piece of land that needs expensive work done on it. Cardoza's plans had x millions towards making the site safe I recall in the midsts of time.
I'm hoping it's not yet another excuse filled session with NBC taking all the blame for the latest on going delays.
We also get to hear about what exactly Northampton Ventures are and it's benefits to our club.
The Chinese investment, are they going to actually invest and in what, ground/ players?
Should help clear up the uncertainty surrounding our much needed development.
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« Reply #20704 on: November 13, 2017, 21:54:42 pm »

I'm hoping it's not yet another excuse filled session with NBC taking all the blame for the latest on going delays.
We also get to hear about what exactly Northampton Ventures are and it's benefits to our club.
The Chinese investment, are they going to actually invest and in what, ground/ players?
Should help clear up the uncertainty surrounding our much needed development.


..... so somewhat negative predictions on the outcome but no confirmation of questions you will be asking - more than a slight impression you actually wallow in the uncertainty and actually might be disappointed if real sensible and optimistic answers ensued.
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« Reply #20705 on: November 13, 2017, 22:37:28 pm »

..... so somewhat negative predictions on the outcome but no confirmation of questions you will be asking - more than a slight impression you actually wallow in the uncertainty and actually might be disappointed if real sensible and optimistic answers ensued.

You can lead a horse to water........
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« Reply #20706 on: November 14, 2017, 08:17:28 am »

..... so somewhat negative predictions on the outcome but no confirmation of questions you will be asking - more than a slight impression you actually wallow in the uncertainty and actually might be disappointed if real sensible and optimistic answers ensued.
If he announced ntfc/ventures/Chinese have decided that we will get a 3000 capacity increase and some corperate boxes, I will be delighted.
Finally able to move our club forward.
He must have some good news for us this time.
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« Reply #20707 on: November 14, 2017, 09:49:40 am »

If he announced ntfc/ventures/Chinese have decided that we will get a 3000 capacity increase and some corperate boxes, I will be delighted.
Finally able to move our club forward.
He must have some good news for us this time.

I have a sinking feeling you are a sandwich short of a picnic?
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« Reply #20708 on: November 14, 2017, 09:57:49 am »

Whatever are our different points of view on this vexed topic we all, Beds included, have the opportunity of asking the Chairman the pertinent questions on Facebook tomorrow night.

Some are forecasting an announcement of some sort will precede the Q & A to take the sting out of the situation. I have no idea about that but if not I expect some direct and forceful questions.
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« Reply #20709 on: November 14, 2017, 13:27:33 pm »

Whatever are our different points of view on this vexed topic we all, Beds included, have the opportunity of asking the Chairman the pertinent questions on Facebook tomorrow night.

Some are forecasting an announcement of some sort will precede the Q & A to take the sting out of the situation. I have no idea about that but if not I expect some direct and forceful questions.

What will actually happen is that anyone who asks a direct or forceful question will be shouted down (in a keyboard way) by other fans, with comments such as 'He's already told us that its legal issues'. or 'He's done loads for the club' etc.  Such comments will attract countless 'likes' as well!  Grin

I look forward to it immensely, should be rather entertaining!

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« Reply #20710 on: November 14, 2017, 13:44:02 pm »

It would be good if he can come out and say what is proposed for the East Stand even if there are legal issues over the lease I don't see why he cant say if we get the lease this is what we will  build and show us the proposal, and if we don't get what we want with the lease this is what we will build and show us that proposal. I can't see how that is not possible.
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« Reply #20711 on: November 14, 2017, 16:45:35 pm »

What will actually happen is that anyone who asks a direct or forceful question will be shouted down (in a keyboard way) by other fans, with comments such as 'He's already told us that its legal issues'. or 'He's done loads for the club' etc.  Such comments will attract countless 'likes' as well!  Grin

I look forward to it immensely, should be rather entertaining!



Kind of agree. I also think we are kidding ourselves if anything will come out of it that is different to what we already know. Unless there is some form of announcement beforehand.
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« Reply #20712 on: November 14, 2017, 16:57:08 pm »

A good question would be :

If the council grant no additional permissions on the land and want nothing more to do with us , how does that affect the stand build and are Venture happy to continue supporting the club .?

KT would no doubt waffle on with a non committal answer - but surely this is the type of thing we all need to know .
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« Reply #20713 on: November 15, 2017, 09:00:14 am »

A good question would be :

If the council grant no additional permissions on the land and want nothing more to do with us , how does that affect the stand build and are Venture happy to continue supporting the club .?

KT would no doubt waffle on with a non committal answer - but surely this is the type of thing we all need to know .

Then ask it!
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« Reply #20714 on: November 15, 2017, 11:10:44 am »

What will actually happen is that anyone who asks a direct or forceful question will be shouted down (in a keyboard way) by other fans, with comments such as 'He's already told us that its legal issues'. or 'He's done loads for the club' etc.  Such comments will attract countless 'likes' as well!  Grin

I look forward to it immensely, should be rather entertaining!


It might be worthwhile that those who propose to ask questions consider the words they use. No point in putting hostile questions which puts KT on back foot. We have been here before. I really hope that those who are critical of the Redevelopment progress make coherent comments/queries. Itís a case of put up or shut up 🤐.
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« Reply #20715 on: November 15, 2017, 14:01:38 pm »

Canít be bothered to scroll back, has Beds come up with any sensible questions yet?
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« Reply #20716 on: November 15, 2017, 14:35:15 pm »

Canít be bothered to scroll back, has Beds come up with any sensible questions yet?
Yes, but you'll  need to scroll back 700 pages.

Its no a coincidence that when Thomas or any previous chairman are given critisism for inactivity or lack of clarity as to their objectives and the implications their actions could have on our clubs future, they are very quick to show they are not being slippery and do a social media / supporters meeting thingy.
There's not a single concern of ours on here  they've not read, and after last weeks in-depth discussions and suppositions its
 Brought about this hastily arranged tet e tet😂
Good work also by NTFC supporters trust in helping with getting this arranged.
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« Reply #20717 on: November 15, 2017, 14:35:59 pm »

Then ask it!

Precisely!
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« Reply #20718 on: November 15, 2017, 14:54:55 pm »

Yes, but you'll  need to scroll back 700 pages.

Its no a coincidence that when Thomas or any previous chairman are given critisism for inactivity or lack of clarity as to their objectives and the implications their actions could have on our clubs future, they are very quick to show they are not being slippery and do a social media / supporters meeting thingy.
There's not a single concern of ours on here  they've not read, and after last weeks in-depth discussions and suppositions its
 Brought about this hastily arranged tet e tet😂
Good work also by NTFC supporters trust in helping with getting this arranged.


BedsCobb. I agree with a lot of your points but you do plough a pretty lonely furrow on your overall consistent downer on the chairman. It may be that you are anti-establishment, which is fine and you are 100% entitled to your views. You are banned from Facebook, OK. It is difficult to see why someone who spends so many posts making observations on here and other Facebook pages (if you are the other DC) won't post up some straight forward questions. You seem to want to avoid any opportunity of direct/indirect contact with the source of the answers.
Of course you don't have to, that is your right but it leaves you with less credibility than those you post complaining about. I'd take the opportunity in a safe environment with both hands and don't understand why anyone wouldn't. If you don't, all you are left with is background noise.
Ask questions about the land, the Chinese and plans to develop the ground. If anyone gets hammered for that they deserve a timely reminder of recent history when a few chose to challenge our then chairman.
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« Reply #20719 on: November 15, 2017, 17:22:47 pm »

Yes, but you'll  need to scroll back 700 pages.

Its no a coincidence that when Thomas or any previous chairman are given critisism for inactivity or lack of clarity as to their objectives and the implications their actions could have on our clubs future, they are very quick to show they are not being slippery and do a social media / supporters meeting thingy.


If that was the case this could have happened at any time since he took over. He has always been prey to a degree of criticism, so I doubt if anything on here or elsewhere has spurred him on to respond. You also have to take into account that he has always been very approachable, both in person and via emails etc.
 
I can't speak for him. But if I was him, I would find your comments and stance the least likely to challenge. First of all, most of what you say, shows very little business acumen. Couple that with the fact that you genuinely do seem to have an axe to grind with him on some personal level, and what you are left with is someone who has effectively painted them self into a corner. It's been mentioned a few times, that you have become a bit of a hotelend mascot. Our very own Citizen Smith caricature. You absolutely raise some very salient points. Unfortunately they are all too frequently punctuated with kindergarten business plans, and paranoid overtones. If you set out to get attention for the cause you so clearly believe you are fighting, then well done. Iím just not sure the type of attention you get, is any use to you, or to the point you so poorly makeÖ..

But... And I stand by it. I admire your tenacity. And it could well be, that it is me who just doesn't get it.  Grin Grin
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