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« Reply #20900 on: January 31, 2018, 12:41:15 pm »

So am I, as I was  when Atkins built a decent squad and the times we signed Martin Smith, Ian Taylor, Josh Low, Andy Kirk etc,
But its always so short lived with unhappy costly endings.
Hopefully this time the owners can bank roll the club indefinitely without the need to build up the clubs fan base and infrastructure.

I disagree (as indeed you do) - we need both, preferably concurrently but let's enjoy a little sunshine on the pitch short term - whatever you say, short term a bigger stadium will not automatically put bums on seats - a free scoring successful team will.
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« Reply #20901 on: January 31, 2018, 12:52:19 pm »

Call me shortsighted, lacking in business savvy or indeed not a real supporter but I'm considerably more excited about this week's signings than news of 2000 new seats new seats being installed in the ground.

Me too..
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« Reply #20902 on: January 31, 2018, 12:52:35 pm »

But it's a moot point; there is no news about 2000 new seats being installed. Tongue

Im kind of with Cobblerwatch here. After all, its the football we come to watch week in week out.

For me its a clear journey that the owners/investors are taking us on. Team first, facilities second. Ideally we'd have both running  con-currently but the legalities are the official line as to why thats not happened yet.

I ask myself this question. If I had money, and was prepared to bank roll a lower league football club with huge growth potential, what would be my priority? And my answer to this is 'get the team up into the 2nd tier, take my 4 pack and sausage rolls along to the party (which will be flowing with champagne and prawn sandwiches) and get networking with the high rollers.

The Championship is the 4th most watched league in Europe. That is huge. Its swimming with money. 4 of the bottom 5 have 'super stadia', all ready and waiting for their imminent return to the top table of English and European football (financially). Or not for possibly 3 of them may well be the case.

If little old Northampton Town got there with a relative minimum investment (argument sake less than 5 million losses), then that kind of money would be very easy to re-capture. We are already 'in' with the Chinese business community. Why the hell would you potentially risk all of that by sticking 2000 extra seats in a shoe box of a ground, just so we can flog a few more tickets to the odd away team or make a few extra squid when the big boys come to town…which isn't very often.

The whole of English football has gone financially crazy these last few years, its no longer a game where a small club can organically grow its way to the top of the tree. It needs 20/50/100 million quid chucked at it. Only once in the last 10 years has a team fluked it…Blackpool. Look where they ended up…

I've a strong feeling that in 2-3 years time we will have a 24/7 operation in a modest ground lining up for its first stab at the 2nd tier in over 50 years. At that point our owners will go out looking for more money to take us to the next level, whatever that may be. Thats my theory, just using the Drilling Cobblers very modest business skills in place to put the pieces of the jigsaw together!
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« Reply #20903 on: January 31, 2018, 12:55:23 pm »

My thoughts are very much in line with yours on this Drilling, it may be wishful thinking on my part, but, why on earth would someone be throwing money at the squad as we appear to have done this window if that wasn't the case!
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« Reply #20904 on: January 31, 2018, 13:06:00 pm »

My thoughts are very much in line with yours on this Drilling, it may be wishful thinking on my part, but, why on earth would someone be throwing money at the squad as we appear to have done this window if that wasn't the case!

Absolutely mate…

We know why DC did it…he wanted council support. Plus he was a complete idiot, playing with Daddy's money. Probably more the latter than the former to be fair!

KT is clearly not mega rich, far from it. We of course know little, very little about our real owners.  But he's very clued up. You wouldn't have a plan to just chuck 2 million quid down the drain on making the team half decent in the short term without a full on plan to recoup that investment somewhere further down the line. Ego clearly doesn't come into it, which is the main reason why so many football club owners have done that in the past. We don't even know who these guys are ffs!!

It might all go bellies up, but quite frankly that would be the case with any owner or indeed a fan run club. R&D was run by its fans, Chester (AFC) are just 10 years old and the buckets have come out again this last week. We have to trust them, but at the same time continue to press the one we do know (KT) for valuable information and assurances, he is the custodian, whilst we are here for life. Which NTST are trying to do constantly.

In the meantime though its great we are splashing a bit of £££ around, allowing us all to dream a little bit!

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« Reply #20905 on: January 31, 2018, 14:32:16 pm »

Can see the point of view Drilling with regards waiting, but can also see the other side as well. There have been quite a few times where we have had a good team, investment has been made in the playing squad and we have achieved on pitch success. But, apart from a couple of hundred extra seats and an extra door in the toilets, the Stadium is the same now as it was 24 years ago.
The success of the 60s,  promotion in the 70s and 80s and nothing was ever done to build on that and the Club soon found itself back where it started with the same basic off field problems.
My main concern is, and remains, the lack of any information and plans as to what the Club are aiming to achieve off the pitch.
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« Reply #20906 on: January 31, 2018, 14:43:16 pm »

Can see the point of view Drilling with regards waiting, but can also see the other side as well. There have been quite a few times where we have had a good team, investment has been made in the playing squad and we have achieved on pitch success. But, apart from a couple of hundred extra seats and an extra door in the toilets, the Stadium is the same now as it was 24 years ago.
The success of the 60s,  promotion in the 70s and 80s and nothing was ever done to build on that and the Club soon found itself back where it started with the same basic off field problems.
My main concern is, and remains, the lack of any information and plans as to what the Club are aiming to achieve off the pitch.

I've been going since 87 season and the only time I can recall us 'splashing the cash' was when Wilkinson was given a free reign to spend a shed load of DC's money shortly after his arrival. Every other time its been the odd player here or there, like any other club basically.

This time around we seem to be spending money (on our level) on players we've never even tried to compete with before, and to do so in the January window in particular shows real intent. And not just the odd player, loads of them. Even the loanees are 'on paper' a completely different standard to the norm.

Its that very reason why Im making a strong *assumption that there must be a big plan in place, which to be fair to KT he has said on many times that there is. He just won't tell us what it is!!

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« Reply #20907 on: February 01, 2018, 09:54:32 am »

Interesting tweet from the BBC over missing millions.

Northants Police: number of people yet to complete interview process and this will continue for the next few months as we prepare a file for CPS..."we are finding further potential significant witnesses

https://twitter.com/mattcprecey/status/958997687545794561
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« Reply #20908 on: February 01, 2018, 10:36:50 am »

Encouraging news .
What a cherry on the cake it would be if there was some news on this in the next few months .
I wonder how easily Grossman , mackintosh and cardoza are sleeping these days .
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« Reply #20909 on: February 01, 2018, 12:20:44 pm »

I wonder how easily Grossman , mackintosh and cardoza are sleeping these days .

Unfortunately you need integrity and a conscience to have a disturbed night 
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« Reply #20910 on: February 01, 2018, 12:24:02 pm »

Unfortunately you need integrity and a conscience to have a disturbed night 

Or insomnia  Wink
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« Reply #20911 on: February 01, 2018, 20:52:04 pm »

Anyone’s guess how they’re sleeping now, but reckon Mackintosh might need to be sleeping with big “Grouty” Cardoza in the near future? Might need some protection from “Genial” Howard Grossman over the wing?
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« Reply #20912 on: February 01, 2018, 21:05:14 pm »

Who's the Daddy. Where's you're f ucking tool. What tool? O'Toole
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« Reply #20913 on: February 01, 2018, 21:11:03 pm »

Anyone’s guess how they’re sleeping now, but reckon Mackintosh might need to be sleeping with big “Grouty” Cardoza in the near future? Might need some protection from “Genial” Howard Grossman over the wing?
Its a nice thought, but I would guess that there would be some "grassing up" going on, in return for a more lenient sentence.
As an aside, if I get called up for jury service for this one, (yes please!), does anyone know if, as a previous season ticket holder for fifteen years, this would prevent me from doing my duty?
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« Reply #20914 on: February 01, 2018, 21:51:29 pm »

Or insomnia  Wink
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« Reply #20915 on: February 02, 2018, 02:51:06 am »

Its a nice thought, but I would guess that there would be some "grassing up" going on, in return for a more lenient sentence.
As an aside, if I get called up for jury service for this one, (yes please!), does anyone know if, as a previous season ticket holder for fifteen years, this would prevent me from doing my duty?

Only if you declared it. Wink
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« Reply #20916 on: February 02, 2018, 09:45:23 am »

I can’t wait for the council and solicitors to get back from their Christmas break so those few lose ends can be tied up and the promised good news can be delivered.
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« Reply #20917 on: February 02, 2018, 10:05:28 am »

I can’t wait for the council and solicitors to get back from their Christmas break so those few lose ends can be tied up and the promised good news can be delivered.

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« Reply #20918 on: February 03, 2018, 21:43:19 pm »

Heard from a reliable source (not the one who strangely watches kids play football on a Monday afternoon) that KT is in the process of lending Northamptonshire Council £10.5 million.
Otherwise, the Byfield to Northampton bus service gets it!  Tongue
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« Reply #20919 on: February 04, 2018, 10:33:31 am »

Maybe nothing but all the advertising tarpaulings had been taken off of the east stand I noticed yesterday
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