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« Reply #21520 on: April 14, 2018, 22:34:31 pm »

Surely  vc by now you know neverbright is a knobhead and loves kt even though he'll  sell the club down the river just to make a few quid. The shameful  thing is he's  not along
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« Reply #21521 on: April 15, 2018, 00:03:01 am »

Give up now in Weatherspoons
Do you mean Wetherspoons, Licker?
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« Reply #21522 on: April 15, 2018, 00:46:42 am »

Surely  vc by now you know neverbright is a knobhead and loves kt even though he'll  sell the club down the river just to make a few quid. The shameful  thing is he's  not along


Don't particularly like KT. In fact I prefer to wait until end of season before commenting.
As an aside I have irrefutable information that you are a closet remainer.

 
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« Reply #21523 on: April 15, 2018, 00:48:39 am »

Do you mean Wetherspoons, Licker?

Whatever.......
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« Reply #21524 on: April 15, 2018, 16:24:55 pm »

Anybody know the outcome of the Trust Board meeting the other week ? I cant find any news about it either on here or the Trust website.
Here's the latest statement from the Trust: http://ntfctrust.co.uk/news/article/update-on-east-stand-development-and-ownership-structure-changes
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« Reply #21525 on: April 15, 2018, 18:26:16 pm »

Thanks for the update Fez,
Announcing being upset at the NBC failing to meet agreed deadlines isnt good but what what exactly were we expecting them to do?
Our supporters trust do not even have a democraticly elected member on the board?
How can the Borough council even take us serious?
#notonebladeofgrass until we have, may help the situation.?
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« Reply #21526 on: April 15, 2018, 18:44:39 pm »

The Trust represent a group of members similar to groups of people involved in Councils.....its called democracy and means one persons opinion means no more than one others persons, even if they repeat it 1649 times Beds!!!
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« Reply #21527 on: April 15, 2018, 18:45:17 pm »

Interesting to see that conflicting info is coming from the football club and council.

My understanding is that the action on normalising the lease is with NBC, and the final paperwork has been with them since December. It would be fascinating to see what is incorrect about that?

The other thing is that the trust had a seat on the board for years and the club still found itself at the centre of a scandal with 10m of public money going walkers, and essentially going bankrupt. Not to mention documents being signed without proper legal advice.

I'd be interested to know what the trust believes it would gain from a seat on the board.
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« Reply #21528 on: April 15, 2018, 19:10:24 pm »

Interesting statement particularly the line

"This was compounded by growing unease at the late submission of the NTVL Confirmation Statement, which indicated that the company had not in fact been sold to 5USport"

Agree that it is imperative the Trust regains its seat on the board.
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« Reply #21529 on: April 15, 2018, 19:13:13 pm »

The Trust represent a group of members similar to groups of people involved in Councils.....its called democracy and means one persons opinion means no more than one others persons, even if they repeat it 1649 times Beds!!!
its probably nearer several thousand as Ive been forced to change poster name a few times pver this last 13 years  Grin
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« Reply #21530 on: April 15, 2018, 22:17:03 pm »

Thanks for the update Fez,
Announcing being upset at the NBC failing to meet agreed deadlines isnt good but what what exactly were we expecting them to do?
Our supporters trust do not even have a democraticly elected member on the board?
How can the Borough council even take us serious?
#notonebladeofgrass until we have, may help the situation.?

This is where you and me absolutely concur. The first thing the Trust should do before doing anything for KT is ballot its membership on what action they intend to take about not having a seat on the board. For the Trust to be considered as anything other than a total paper tiger it needs that huge issue resolving first.

In addition to this. If the Trust has been told what the discrepancy is between what NTFC and the council are saying, and are not revealing this to its membership, then I'm afraid their place as an advocate of the supporters is lost. Whilst I believe a degree of discretion is wise. This should not extend any further than it already has. I would suggest that it is high time the Trust divulge what they know, and let those they advocate for be the judges of whether or not they are happy with either the club or the council.
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« Reply #21531 on: April 15, 2018, 23:05:52 pm »

This is where you and me absolutely concur. The first thing the Trust should do before doing anything for KT is ballot its membership on what action they intend to take about not having a seat on the board. For the Trust to be considered as anything other than a total paper tiger it needs that huge issue resolving first.

In addition to this. If the Trust has been told what the discrepancy is between what NTFC and the council are saying, and are not revealing this to its membership, then I'm afraid their place as an advocate of the supporters is lost. Whilst I believe a degree of discretion is wise. This should not extend any further than it already has. I would suggest that it is high time the Trust divulge what they know, and let those they advocate for be the judges of whether or not they are happy with either the club or the council.
Couldn't agree more.
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« Reply #21532 on: April 16, 2018, 00:50:54 am »

This is where you and me absolutely concur. The first thing the Trust should do before doing anything for KT is ballot its membership on what action they intend to take about not having a seat on the board. For the Trust to be considered as anything other than a total paper tiger it needs that huge issue resolving first.

In addition to this. If the Trust has been told what the discrepancy is between what NTFC and the council are saying, and are not revealing this to its membership, then I'm afraid their place as an advocate of the supporters is lost. Whilst I believe a degree of discretion is wise. This should not extend any further than it already has. I would suggest that it is high time the Trust divulge what they know, and let those they advocate for be the judges of whether or not they are happy with either the club or the council.
Thanks for the feedback Nigel. I shall pass it on.

All I can say is that we're trying to establish as much information as we can, hence we're calling for this meeting. Once we all have that, then I'm sure we'll be all ears.
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« Reply #21533 on: April 16, 2018, 01:16:59 am »

This is where you and me absolutely concur. The first thing the Trust should do before doing anything for KT is ballot its membership on what action they intend to take about not having a seat on the board. For the Trust to be considered as anything other than a total paper tiger it needs that huge issue resolving first.

In addition to this. If the Trust has been told what the discrepancy is between what NTFC and the council are saying, and are not revealing this to its membership, then I'm afraid their place as an advocate of the supporters is lost. Whilst I believe a degree of discretion is wise. This should not extend any further than it already has. I would suggest that it is high time the Trust divulge what they know, and let those they advocate for be the judges of whether or not they are happy with either the club or the council.

A feature of a Capitalist Society is that the people with the money do what they want.

The people with nothing will remain with nothing, however many sweets are thrown from the balconies of the Palaces.

The folks of the Trust are doing a Sterling job, given the current climate.

A change of the current situation requires a Benefactor with enough millions to buy a say on the Board.

Else, "Goodnight Vienna".

At least, where things are, we have a situation where a voice is heard in the upper Echelons.  But, to think that anything else is feasible is, to be honest, fantasy land.

The "Owners" of the football club are in it for money.  That is the political landscape which this country has voted for in the last however many General Elections.  That is the reality..... and for the Owners, the word "Reality" is very important.  (Check your dictionaries).

Without the "Trust", what supporters' body is there?

With the Trust, how does one overthrow Capitalism and gain a voice?

The Paper Tiger is not the Trust, it is this Message Board.  I read nothing but meaningless waffle on this Board - lots of people prepared to say "he should do this", or "they should do that".

Get off your ferking fat arses and ferking do something, you load of s***e.

All you ferking tossers out there in Internet land, sitting behind your keyboards giving it the "You should do this"!, and "You didn't do that".  To use Defender's keyboard:  YOU ARE THE REASON WHY THIS CLUB IS GOING DOWN THE PAN.  YOU ARE A BUNCH OF WASTERS.  i WILL TAKE EVERYONE OF YOU ON, ONE BY ONE, IN A UFC RING, AND YOU'LL ALL BE PISSING YOUR PANTS WHEN YOU SEE ME.  AND THAT WILL NOT BE THROUGH LAUGHTER...... GROW SOME BALLS AND FERKING FIGHT FOR REAL, NOT WITH TWERKING PRETTY WORDS ON A KEYBOARD".

Message understood?

Anyone happy to meet me, face to face on this issue?Huh?Huh?

Anyone want to support the Trust and get a consolidated message across?

What a load of useless keyboard tigers you lot really are......
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« Reply #21534 on: April 16, 2018, 01:27:56 am »

A feature of a Capitalist Society is that the people with the money do what they want.

The people with nothing will remain with nothing, however many sweets are thrown from the balconies of the Palaces.

The folks of the Trust are doing a Sterling job, given the current climate.

A change of the current situation requires a Benefactor with enough millions to buy a say on the Board.

Else, "Goodnight Vienna".

At least, where things are, we have a situation where a voice is heard in the upper Echelons.  But, to think that anything else is feasible is, to be honest, fantasy land.

The "Owners" of the football club are in it for money.  That is the political landscape which this country has voted for in the last however many General Elections.  That is the reality..... and for the Owners, the word "Reality" is very important.  (Check your dictionaries).

Without the "Trust", what supporters' body is there?

With the Trust, how does one overthrow Capitalism and gain a voice?

The Paper Tiger is not the Trust, it is this Message Board.  I read nothing but meaningless waffle on this Board - lots of people prepared to say "he should do this", or "they should do that".

Get off your ferking fat arses and ferking do something, you load of s***e.

All you ferking tossers out there in Internet land, sitting behind your keyboards giving it the "You should do this"!, and "You didn't do that".  To use Defender's keyboard:  YOU ARE THE REASON WHY THIS CLUB IS GOING DOWN THE PAN.  YOU ARE A BUNCH OF WASTERS.  i WILL TAKE EVERYONE OF YOU ON, ONE BY ONE, IN A UFC RING, AND YOU'LL ALL BE PISSING YOUR PANTS WHEN YOU SEE ME.  AND THAT WILL NOT BE THROUGH LAUGHTER...... GROW SOME BALLS AND FERKING FIGHT FOR REAL, NOT WITH TWERKING PRETTY WORDS ON A KEYBOARD".

Message understood?

Anyone happy to meet me, face to face on this issue?Huh?Huh?

Anyone want to support the Trust and get a consolidated message across?

What a load of useless keyboard tigers you lot really are......

Someone's been on the pop Embarrassed
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« Reply #21535 on: April 16, 2018, 01:30:44 am »

Someone's been on the pop Embarrassed

Surprisingly, yes.  I'm TT.

So, the post was in all seriousness......    Grin
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« Reply #21536 on: April 16, 2018, 06:56:31 am »

A feature of a Capitalist Society is that the people with the money do what they want.

The people with nothing will remain with nothing, however many sweets are thrown from the balconies of the Palaces.

The folks of the Trust are doing a Sterling job, given the current climate.

A change of the current situation requires a Benefactor with enough millions to buy a say on the Board.

Else, "Goodnight Vienna".

At least, where things are, we have a situation where a voice is heard in the upper Echelons.  But, to think that anything else is feasible is, to be honest, fantasy land.

The "Owners" of the football club are in it for money.  That is the political landscape which this country has voted for in the last however many General Elections.  That is the reality..... and for the Owners, the word "Reality" is very important.  (Check your dictionaries).

Without the "Trust", what supporters' body is there?

With the Trust, how does one overthrow Capitalism and gain a voice?

The Paper Tiger is not the Trust, it is this Message Board.  I read nothing but meaningless waffle on this Board - lots of people prepared to say "he should do this", or "they should do that".

Get off your ferking fat arses and ferking do something, you load of s***e.

All you ferking tossers out there in Internet land, sitting behind your keyboards giving it the "You should do this"!, and "You didn't do that".  To use Defender's keyboard:  YOU ARE THE REASON WHY THIS CLUB IS GOING DOWN THE PAN.  YOU ARE A BUNCH OF WASTERS.  i WILL TAKE EVERYONE OF YOU ON, ONE BY ONE, IN A UFC RING, AND YOU'LL ALL BE PISSING YOUR PANTS WHEN YOU SEE ME.  AND THAT WILL NOT BE THROUGH LAUGHTER...... GROW SOME BALLS AND FERKING FIGHT FOR REAL, NOT WITH TWERKING PRETTY WORDS ON A KEYBOARD".

Message understood?

Anyone happy to meet me, face to face on this issue?Huh?Huh?

Anyone want to support the Trust and get a consolidated message across?

What a load of useless keyboard tigers you lot really are......
Well, I was with you during the first half of that Overs, although the second half did seem to go off on a bit of a tangent?
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« Reply #21537 on: April 16, 2018, 07:49:01 am »

I thought the first part of the post was ok Oversees, then you turned into a keyboard warrior.
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« Reply #21538 on: April 16, 2018, 11:18:33 am »

A feature of a Capitalist Society is that the people with the money do what they want.

The people with nothing will remain with nothing, however many sweets are thrown from the balconies of the Palaces.

The folks of the Trust are doing a Sterling job, given the current climate.

A change of the current situation requires a Benefactor with enough millions to buy a say on the Board.

Else, "Goodnight Vienna".

At least, where things are, we have a situation where a voice is heard in the upper Echelons.  But, to think that anything else is feasible is, to be honest, fantasy land.

The "Owners" of the football club are in it for money.  That is the political landscape which this country has voted for in the last however many General Elections.  That is the reality..... and for the Owners, the word "Reality" is very important.  (Check your dictionaries).

Without the "Trust", what supporters' body is there?

With the Trust, how does one overthrow Capitalism and gain a voice?

The Paper Tiger is not the Trust, it is this Message Board.  I read nothing but meaningless waffle on this Board - lots of people prepared to say "he should do this", or "they should do that".

Get off your ferking fat arses and ferking do something, you load of s***e.

All you ferking tossers out there in Internet land, sitting behind your keyboards giving it the "You should do this"!, and "You didn't do that".  To use Defender's keyboard:  YOU ARE THE REASON WHY THIS CLUB IS GOING DOWN THE PAN.  YOU ARE A BUNCH OF WASTERS.  i WILL TAKE EVERYONE OF YOU ON, ONE BY ONE, IN A UFC RING, AND YOU'LL ALL BE PISSING YOUR PANTS WHEN YOU SEE ME.  AND THAT WILL NOT BE THROUGH LAUGHTER...... GROW SOME BALLS AND FERKING FIGHT FOR REAL, NOT WITH TWERKING PRETTY WORDS ON A KEYBOARD".

Message understood?

Anyone happy to meet me, face to face on this issue?Huh?Huh?

Anyone want to support the Trust and get a consolidated message across?

What a load of useless keyboard tigers you lot really are......

Happy to catch up at some pint of shandy, or lemonade in your case. But I will try to put across my concerns.

For the Trust to be effective it has to have the main body of the support behind it. Not so much a reflection of this site, but more a reflection of how it represents us overall. My sentiments are quite simple. If there are mixed messages from both sides of the fence, then report that. If you are not convinced that the "capitalists" are playing fair, then report that. By all means go out on a limb and have an opinion. Brian Lomax was all about letting the facts out in the open, and allowing the supporters to deal with them as they see fit.

I believe the initial damage that was inflicted on the Trust, was by the closeness of DC to them. That has no reflection on the current Trust board, as that relationship was fostered by Tony Clarke. However, the Trust genuinely struggled to gain any serious traction at board level post that era. Under KT it has suffered another significant blow in terms of the loss of the seat on the board. So where is it now, and what is it's thoughts on the current situation? The truth is, I don't know. As a member of the Trust, and a very long term sufferer supporter of the club, I'm in the dark. Now... If the Trust know more about the current situation than I do, then share it with me and perhaps then I can get off my "ferking fat arse"  Kiss and help. I have gone out of my way to fight what I see as wrong over the years at NTFC. And I am still involved in that from the perspective of what DC did to us. But there is fcuk all I can do if I am not given the facts.

I have no axe to grind with the Trust. Just report back what is being said. Every detail. Do not enter a meeting, unless you can immediately report back the contents of that meeting. If the council say DC is to blame.. Then report it. If KT says it's the Council, then report it. I cannot see a place where the Trust will do anything other than get it's fingers burnt if there is anything more than total candour. Like I say. I have asked to meet with those that were present at the meetings. I will ask at the start of the meeting if they are happy for me to report back anything that has been said. If they say no, then I will leave and state that they wish for some information to remain confidential. Then you, me and everyone elese can at least draw there own conclusions from it. Equally... If they want me to help them. I'm available.
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« Reply #21539 on: April 16, 2018, 11:40:26 am »

Thanks for the feedback Nigel. I shall pass it on.

All I can say is that we're trying to establish as much information as we can, hence we're calling for this meeting. Once we all have that, then I'm sure we'll be all ears.

But surely the position is clear as day? The club have provided the paperwork and legal representation to NBC to normalise the lease issue on the land. This has been with NBC since December, with no reply. Action on NBC to explain WTF is going on??
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