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« Reply #22100 on: June 19, 2018, 07:58:49 am »

Adding seats doesn't increase atmosphere. A fully finished stand, either all safe standing or all seating, will look a much more professional attractive proposition  (although personally I don't think the current stand / ground turns people away nor do I think a new stand will necessarily attract people).

What I'm really struggling with is to see how a half and half stand like you have suggested will look anything other than tin pot, that's why I asked for examples of other stands so I can see what it would look like.
Firstly its not important to have an exact copy of some other clubs ground, infact you hear a lot of fans not liking visiting identy kit or lego esque stadium such as little sixfields, so it doesnt sell its self well. Some originality would likely attract more visiting fans.
  I suggested  a new 12 row extention behind both goals that are a safe terracing, many fans mainly older wish to remain seated so need catering for, so leaving what is there in situ makes perfect financial  sense.
This way gives the ground a professional outlook and feel with a far greater atmosphere that will in turn attract more supporters and increases capacity to above the much needed 12000.
The funding of this would still require getting in some investment, sponsorship,  long term multiple  ticket sales and most importantly the full support and help of our catchment makes this  very acheivable .
Doing nothing for another 20 years isnt an option any more.
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« Reply #22101 on: June 19, 2018, 08:52:28 am »

Firstly its not important to have an exact copy of some other clubs ground, infact you hear a lot of fans not liking visiting identy kit or lego esque stadium such as little sixfields, so it doesnt sell its self well. Some originality would likely attract more visiting fans.
  I suggested  a new 12 row extention behind both goals that are a safe terracing, many fans mainly older wish to remain seated so need catering for, so leaving what is there in situ makes perfect financial  sense.
This way gives the ground a professional outlook and feel with a far greater atmosphere that will in turn attract more supporters and increases capacity to above the much needed 12000.
The funding of this would still require getting in some investment, sponsorship,  long term multiple  ticket sales and most importantly the full support and help of our catchment makes this  very acheivable .
Doing nothing for another 20 years isnt an option any more.
I'm not looking to copy a ground, I'm not a huge fan of the lego esque stadiums either, I much prefer old traditional stadia that are about to fall down!I'm just not very good at imaging how things look so was hoping for a similar example as, like  I said, I cant see it being an attractive option
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« Reply #22102 on: June 19, 2018, 10:50:54 am »

Do you actually believe that? You're a bigger wind up merchant than me😂😂😊
Wilder used us as a stepping stone to escape oxford and re group, those star players rebuild their flagging careers at our shabby un ambitious **** hole in hope of a move to those progressive clubs we can only hope to emulate..
Major changes needed, and the belittling needs to stop
Hope that helps.

   

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« Reply #22103 on: June 19, 2018, 11:17:28 am »

Old Alan Knibbs and his wonderful set pieces.

I really enjoyed those goals at Wycombe?, Mansfield, Luton and possibly others too. A decent guy got me tkt for the Luton game whatever happened to him! Do I detect a sarcastic tone to yr comments?
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« Reply #22104 on: June 19, 2018, 11:57:41 am »

I really enjoyed those goals at Wycombe?, Mansfield, Luton and possibly others too. A decent guy got me tkt for the Luton game whatever happened to him! Do I detect a sarcastic tone to yr comments?
 

Can't find any mention of this Alan Knibbs on Google. Hint hint.
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« Reply #22105 on: June 19, 2018, 15:43:25 pm »

I really enjoyed those goals at Wycombe?, Mansfield, Luton and possibly others too. A decent guy got me tkt for the Luton game whatever happened to him! Do I detect a sarcastic tone to yr comments?

You detect wrong Evers. Just picking up on the Knibbs part.

Alan Knill was great!
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« Reply #22106 on: June 19, 2018, 17:01:38 pm »

 

Can't find any mention of this Alan Knibbs on Google. Hint hint.

You wonít either!
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« Reply #22107 on: June 19, 2018, 22:31:15 pm »

Firstly its not important to have an exact copy of some other clubs ground, infact you hear a lot of fans not liking visiting identy kit or lego esque stadium such as little sixfields, so it doesnt sell its self well. Some originality would likely attract more visiting fans.
  I suggested  a new 12 row extention behind both goals that are a safe terracing, many fans mainly older wish to remain seated so need catering for, so leaving what is there in situ makes perfect financial  sense.
This way gives the ground a professional outlook and feel with a far greater atmosphere that will in turn attract more supporters and increases capacity to above the much needed 12000.
The funding of this would still require getting in some investment, sponsorship,  long term multiple  ticket sales and most importantly the full support and help of our catchment makes this  very acheivable .
Doing nothing for another 20 years isnt an option any more.
The idea of extending behind both goals appeals to me and surely must appeal to most on here. Safe standing/rail seating would be a great way to go. Still aesthetically pleasing with the current seats remaining intact and thus would attract fans who like to stand safely and legally. When Sixfields was built we were told it was a case of ripping off the roof and building back to extend so the costs would be less than a complete re-build. 12 rows of 100 (I think the North and South Stands are only 100 seats wide) = 1200 additional capacity in each stand taking us up to the 10,000 mark with over 2,000 for away fans in one stand. Finish the East with the boxes and bars to generate income on non-match days too and the ground will be ready for a sustained spell in League One and a cheeky push for the Championship.
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« Reply #22108 on: June 20, 2018, 00:05:03 am »

Say what you like about this thread, it is a laugh. Youíd think after 1,000 pages there wouldnít  be so much confusion? Personally I would like to see a miniature version of the Juventus Stadium with around a 20,000 capacity. No point in spending a load of dosh and then having to redevelop if we were to make it to the prem? Corporate boxes with high end catering, an adaptability for concerts (given the proximity of the MI) and all of the high end paraphernalia thatís associated with a development of this nature. A bit of standing to generate some atmosphere is a great idea? To repeat, just need to sort the minor technicality of finance and Shangri La shouldnít be to the detriment of the team or the long term stability of the club? If we all agree with this in principle, can I suggest we move on until such time as we are in a position to pay for it?
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« Reply #22109 on: June 20, 2018, 06:22:38 am »

Say what you like about this thread, it is a laugh. Youíd think after 1,000 pages there wouldnít  be so much confusion? Personally I would like to see a miniature version of the Juventus Stadium with around a 20,000 capacity. No point in spending a load of dosh and then having to redevelop if we were to make it to the prem? Corporate boxes with high end catering, an adaptability for concerts (given the proximity of the MI) and all of the high end paraphernalia thatís associated with a development of this nature. A bit of standing to generate some atmosphere is a great idea? To repeat, just need to sort the minor technicality of finance and Shangri La shouldnít be to the detriment of the team or the long term stability of the club? If we all agree with this in principle, can I suggest we move on until such time as we are in a position to pay for it?
You obviously dont attend matches so not much bothered if we were rot forever more in a tiny ground that is strangling the life out of our club.
All this mini Juve ground utter nonsense😂 does nothing to help but give those whose interests are better served excuses  to avoid the issue.
We have to offer up workable ideas that we can all agree on and push hard for, so any suggestions mini Juventus stadium or stad mk will end up with us getting the grand sum of nothing😂😂
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« Reply #22110 on: June 20, 2018, 07:29:33 am »

I think the level of finish, interest and build quality should mirror that of Puskas Akademia stadium just on a larger scale.
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« Reply #22111 on: June 20, 2018, 08:22:29 am »

May I once again ask that this topic be closed until there is some actual news or someone has something sensible to say. It will save a lot of time.
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« Reply #22112 on: June 20, 2018, 08:26:27 am »

You obviously dont attend matches so not much bothered if we were rot forever more in a tiny ground that is strangling the life out of our club.
All this mini Juve ground utter nonsense😂 does nothing to help but give those whose interests are better served excuses  to avoid the issue.
We have to offer up workable ideas that we can all agree on and push hard for, so any suggestions mini Juventus stadium or stad mk will end up with us getting the grand sum of nothing😂😂

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One of their essential skills is to continually talk or discuss a subject ad nauseam with very little physical, visible and/or tangible commitment? Perfect candidate.
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« Reply #22113 on: June 20, 2018, 08:57:03 am »

You obviously dont attend matches so not much bothered if we were rot forever more in a tiny ground that is strangling the life out of our club.
All this mini Juve ground utter nonsense😂 does nothing to help but give those whose interests are better served excuses  to avoid the issue.
We have to offer up workable ideas that we can all agree on and push hard for, so any suggestions mini Juventus stadium or stad mk will end up with us getting the grand sum of nothing😂😂
We will get what we get Richard.
A thousand pages of pointless twaddle wonít change that.
You ,me and any other poster will have zero impact on the designs and we will have to put up with it.
The only issue worth debating is when/if it actually gets built.
Iím not sure it will be started/finished this decade and have grown sick of it all so wonít be buying a season ticket until itís all finished and the farce has ended.
If it is ever built I may pop down to the forgettable name stadium and take in some matches.
FWIW my guess is it will be drawn out much longer and the current board will be desperate for someone else to takeover and build it now that the leases have been sorted out and they can sell on for a profit.
I wouldnít get too excited about a redevelopment yet,whatever form it may/may not take.
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« Reply #22114 on: June 20, 2018, 09:33:33 am »

I appreciate your sentiment shoey but I canít get my head around people who are saying they arenít going to buy a season ticket or stop coming to games due to lack of redevelopment. Despite the sh*te we were served up last season it never crossed my mind not to renew (what else would we do on a Saturday afternoon?) I support NTFC and if that makes me a sheep that KT thrives upon then so be it. Donít get me wrong Iím the same as every other supporter in that I want the sixfields fiasco to be resolved but to be honest Iíve completely zoned out now and anything positive will be a bonus.
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« Reply #22115 on: June 20, 2018, 14:34:22 pm »

You obviously dont attend matches so not much bothered if we were rot forever more in a tiny ground that is strangling the life out of our club.
All this mini Juve ground utter nonsense😂 does nothing to help but give those whose interests are better served excuses  to avoid the issue.
We have to offer up workable ideas that we can all agree on and push hard for, so any suggestions mini Juventus stadium or stad mk will end up with us getting the grand sum of nothing😂😂
Iíve said the wrong thing again havenít I?
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« Reply #22116 on: June 22, 2018, 11:34:58 am »

May I once again ask that this topic be closed until there is some actual news or someone has something sensible to say. It will save a lot of time.

Seconded!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #22117 on: June 22, 2018, 23:20:07 pm »

Seconded!  Roll Eyes
I wonít have that. Everything that gets said on this forum is absolutely vital to both the likelihood of development and the type of ground we end up with. Donít you realise, hardly a day goes by that multi million pound potential investors dont trawl this site for inspiration on how to progress the club? I also blame Beds for the current stalemate. An average of 2 posts a day on the subject is nowhere near enough. He just doesnít get it, the more you say it the more likely it is to happen, everyone knows that!
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« Reply #22118 on: June 23, 2018, 08:01:54 am »

I wonít have that. Everything that gets said on this forum is absolutely vital to both the likelihood of development and the type of ground we end up with. Donít you realise, hardly a day goes by that multi million pound potential investors dont trawl this site for inspiration on how to progress the club? I also blame Beds for the current stalemate. An average of 2 posts a day on the subject is nowhere near enough. He just doesnít get it, the more you say it the more likely it is to happen, everyone knows that!
After 25 years at Sixfields in which not a single investment into improving its infrastructure  has been made, makes it very unlikely for those remaining in charge or new owners to come in completely ignorant to our needs  again and go on ignoring the clubs urgent need for growth but preferring to wing it in hope that 6000 plus fans squeeze into the a tiny 7500 all seater uninspiring ground for league 2 games against the likes if Morecambe and forest Green hoping to win promotion and go again in league 1 believing  they will buck the trend and our hopelessly inadequate ground isn't found wanting for the 6th time in 25 years...

Im of the belief we are currently being touted around for sale  at multi millions and for investors thats not very attractive when you think that both previous owners picked up the club for shirt buttons and haven't advanced the the club on jot on or off the pitch but these new owners will be expected to pay for building up the club.
It could be a few more years of league 2 dross in an inadequate  ground until we move forward, but we will get there eventually.



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« Reply #22119 on: June 23, 2018, 10:39:11 am »

After 25 years at Sixfields in which not a single investment into improving its infrastructure  has been made, makes it very unlikely for those remaining in charge or new owners to come in completely ignorant to our needs  again and go on ignoring the clubs urgent need for growth but preferring to wing it in hope that 6000 plus fans squeeze into the a tiny 7500 all seater uninspiring ground for league 2 games against the likes if Morecambe and forest Green hoping to win promotion and go again in league 1 believing  they will buck the trend and our hopelessly inadequate ground isn't found wanting for the 6th time in 25 years...

Im of the belief we are currently being touted around for sale  at multi millions and for investors thats not very attractive when you think that both previous owners picked up the club for shirt buttons and haven't advanced the the club on jot on or off the pitch but these new owners will be expected to pay for building up the club.
It could be a few more years of league 2 dross in an inadequate  ground until we move forward, but we will get there eventually.





Iím no master of physics but why do 6000 fans have to squeeze into a 7,500 seater stadium or is simply a damming reflection on growing obesity 😀
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