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« Reply #22100 on: June 25, 2018, 22:39:12 pm »

I don't know about 4,300 because if true it would seem ridiculous. However, I was privy to the original building specs through work contacts, and it was definitely supposed to be 11,300/11,400. I think the gas management ate into the budget, and hence the reduction.

Absolutely correct and my term original plan was incorrect - originally specified at just short of 12k but soaring costs, the methane ventilation issues and some definite council detractors saw a plan that had the west stand identical to the east one - fortunately a compromise was reached and a reasonably respectable west stand was the outcome.
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« Reply #22101 on: June 25, 2018, 22:58:25 pm »

Absolutely correct and my term original plan was incorrect - originally specified at just short of 12k but soaring costs, the methane ventilation issues and some definite council detractors saw a plan that had the west stand identical to the east one - fortunately a compromise was reached and a reasonably respectable west stand was the outcome.
The original spec was around £12k, but had the athletics track around the pitch and (I think) just two stands. That changed to a separate athletics and football stadium which obviously cost more, and as you say costs increased significantly due to methane management and ground quality issues.
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« Reply #22102 on: June 26, 2018, 07:19:15 am »

You seem to have forgot to tell me the names of the "most non league clubs now have corporate boxes". You defeat your own argument every time by stating something as a fact when everyone can see is incorrect.
   I'll wait for the list of those non league clubs  Wink
Hasn't commented on another professional team in Europe having a stadium for 3.3% of the surrounding population either (Alanyaspor), something that apparently doesn't exist.
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« Reply #22103 on: June 26, 2018, 10:24:27 am »

Andy Holt Accrington Chairman a good example of a progressive club owner.

They have a new stand going up as we speak, planning going in on a new training ground.

Also looking at different funding routes for infrastructure.

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/1011367378909827072

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/1011532462101598208

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« Reply #22104 on: June 26, 2018, 10:44:10 am »

Tom we already have a progressive owner!

He has progressed his personal wealth and is well on the way to even more now NBC has fallen into line.

Don't forget he also put seats in East stand at an obvious cost of the £4m and knocked in a second bog door.

Wow we are so lucky to have him rather than a chairman who wants all these sharing funding schemes and involves the fans etc.

Cobblers fans enjoy your visit to Accrington this season, oh wait a minute.... they have progressed to league 1 whilst we are where???




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« Reply #22105 on: June 26, 2018, 11:16:31 am »

Tom we already have a progressive owner!

He has progressed his personal wealth and is well on the way to even more now NBC has fallen into line.

Don't forget he also put seats in East stand at an obvious cost of the £4m and knocked in a second bog door.

Wow we are so lucky to have him rather than a chairman who wants all these sharing funding schemes and involves the fans etc.

Cobblers fans enjoy your visit to Accrington this season, oh wait a minute.... they have progressed to league 1 whilst we are where???


Alternative view.... I'm happy we have owners that don't need to rely on the local people to fund the club and can fund it themselves.
Once the paperwork has been signed and the land surrendered as agreed we will then see which side of the fans are correct about KT and what his plans are for the East Stand / stadium.
If his £4m investment only stretches as far as the seats and the toilet door I will admit I was wrong. What will it take for you to admit you're wrong?
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« Reply #22106 on: June 26, 2018, 11:20:28 am »

Tom we already have a progressive owner!

He has progressed his personal wealth and is well on the way to even more now NBC has fallen into line.

Don't forget he also put seats in East stand at an obvious cost of the £4m and knocked in a second bog door.

Wow we are so lucky to have him rather than a chairman who wants all these sharing funding schemes and involves the fans etc.

Cobblers fans enjoy your visit to Accrington this season, oh wait a minute.... they have progressed to league 1 whilst we are where???


Wow - so much sarcasm you sound like a beaten man
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« Reply #22107 on: June 26, 2018, 11:28:23 am »

Tom we already have a progressive owner!

He has progressed his personal wealth and is well on the way to even more now NBC has fallen into line.
Has he? Maybe from other ventures but I doubt via his investment in NTFC to-date
Don't forget he also put seats in East stand at an obvious cost of the £4m and knocked in a second bog door.
When did KT say the works carried out to date cost £4m?
Wow we are so lucky to have him rather than a chairman who wants all these sharing funding schemes and involves the fans etc.

Cobblers fans enjoy your visit to Accrington this season, oh wait a minute.... they have progressed to league 1 whilst we are where???
For every Accrington, there's an MK Dons who have made enormous investment off the pitch and have since made no more progress than NTFC


Some thoughts/questions.

I haven't decided where I stand on KT, by the way, and won't do until we see what happens once the lease paperwork is signed.
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« Reply #22108 on: June 26, 2018, 15:06:37 pm »

Clarkey. Can u ask him what is plans are for sixfields now that the council just need to rubber stamp it please
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« Reply #22109 on: June 26, 2018, 15:38:16 pm »

Clarkey. Can u ask him what is plans are for sixfields now that the council just need to rubber stamp it please

Yes. I was wondering the same. What's the answer, Clarkey? He's told you of the multiple options suggested to develop the surrounding land, so surely he's filled you in with a stadium update, right?
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« Reply #22110 on: June 26, 2018, 15:50:47 pm »

Andy Holt Accrington Chairman a good example of a progressive club owner.

They have a new stand going up as we speak, planning going in on a new training ground.

Also looking at different funding routes for infrastructure.

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/1011367378909827072

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/1011532462101598208


Yes, all under written with the security of What More UKs 55 million turnover. This is not a difficult concept, ability to finance is linked to ability to secure against the debt. No security, no finance.
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« Reply #22111 on: June 26, 2018, 20:19:46 pm »

You seem to have forgot to tell me the names of the "most non league clubs now have corporate boxes". You defeat your own argument every time by stating something as a fact when everyone can see is incorrect.
   I'll wait for the list of those non league clubs  Wink
At no time did I state every single little non league clubs have corperate boxes but many do which doesn't excuse us for being a 1970s throwback.
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« Reply #22112 on: June 26, 2018, 20:27:44 pm »

Hasn't commented on another professional team in Europe having a stadium for 3.3% of the surrounding population either (Alanyaspor), something that apparently doesn't exist.
Alanyspor is in asia, and probably a suburb of Istanbul , good try though😂
Are you the person who thinks Cheltenham and Gloucester and several little towns near by are one the same conurbation? Not such a good effort 😣
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« Reply #22113 on: June 26, 2018, 21:37:10 pm »

Alanyspor is in asia, and probably a suburb of Istanbul


Speaking right now from Istanbul I can assure you Alanyspor is most definitely not a suburb here but a small provincial town in the south with a very small ground for a professional football club - probably that size because the club whilst ambitious still has to live within the means of its income and what its owner is prepared to spend on that ambition - their fans might not like it but itís somewhat simply called the real world.
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« Reply #22114 on: June 26, 2018, 22:08:46 pm »

Alanyspor is in asia, and probably a suburb of Istanbul , good try though😂
Are you the person who thinks Cheltenham and Gloucester and several little towns near by are one the same conurbation? Not such a good effort 😣
oh dear, not changing the criteria retrospectively again are we? Just to be clear, how have you elevated the catchment area of NTFC to 300,000?
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« Reply #22115 on: June 26, 2018, 23:09:41 pm »


Speaking right now from Istanbul I can assure you Alanyspor is most definitely not a suburb here but a small provincial town in the south with a very small ground for a professional football club - probably that size because the club whilst ambitious still has to live within the means of its income and what its owner is prepared to spend on that ambition - their fans might not like it but itís somewhat simply called the real world.
Hopefully Alanyspor clear the decks of these time wasters keeping their club subjected to zero growth and go onto achieving  parity with there more progressive neighbours and stop being a joke club.
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« Reply #22116 on: June 26, 2018, 23:14:56 pm »

oh dear, not changing the criteria retrospectively again are we? Just to be clear, how have you elevated the catchment area of NTFC to 300,000?
220,000 plus living within the borough boundaries and a further 80,000 plus within 10 miles, our immediate catchment.
Next 😂
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« Reply #22117 on: June 26, 2018, 23:22:55 pm »

Hopefully Alanyspor clear the decks of these time wasters keeping their club subjected to zero growth and go onto achieving  parity with there more progressive neighbours and stop being a joke club.
Actully Alanyspor have a 10,500 capacity and only 98,000 population.
40% more than us with 130,000 less inhabitants 😂😂
Looks a lovely place by the coast.
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« Reply #22118 on: June 26, 2018, 23:52:01 pm »

At no time did I state every single little non league clubs have corperate boxes but many do which doesn't excuse us for being a 1970s throwback.
To quote you "most non league clubs now have corporate boxes" so I've asked you to name them, is that difficult ?



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« Reply #22119 on: June 27, 2018, 01:17:38 am »

uni    its worse than that mate

we rely on owners who want our land not our football club

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