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« Reply #22140 on: June 27, 2018, 12:07:10 pm »

Hammy what are you on about?   

I went back to the club to help out and found that just about nothing has changed and no to little medium term planning.

See my last post

Great response from KT since he got what he wanted, love the new plans and excitement of the club he plans to build. Oh no sorry I have jumped the gun, I need to wait another 2 years or more yet as there are new excuses, sorry legal reasons why a hammer can't be swung anywhere near the East stand.

The FACT that KT screwed NBC so he could get cheap Northampton land doesn't seem to bother you or many others, so don't worry about it, for that reason I'm OUT.
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« Reply #22141 on: June 27, 2018, 12:16:21 pm »

So... In the last six months, or possibly twelve. Enlighten us with how much you actually care. Tell me what you, Beds and a handful of over have done outside of this forum.

I don't want any rubbish about DC. You and Beds, and a few others. Tell me what you have done to avert the doomsday scenarios you predict.

Ridiculous comment. It's a privately owned football club owned by people who give next to nothing away. What's he supposed to do? It's like expecting someone to cook a meal in the kitchen when they are locked out of the house.
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« Reply #22142 on: June 27, 2018, 12:16:51 pm »

Hammy I don't understand why you are so vocal in your support of KT other than he talked to you rather than shouted at you like DC did

In terms of action his first 3 years have been very very similar to most of DC's tenure. Ie: 90% concentration on land, 10% on NTFC

There is no aspect of KT reign that you can say has been a success except a couple of loan signings for CW to romp away with the league.


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« Reply #22143 on: June 27, 2018, 12:17:41 pm »

sorry Uni I see very little evidence from most fans / posters on here, including you ! that they want anything better for their club. Those who ask questions of our owners are ridiculed by posters like yourself, comparisons with other clubs are nit picked to the umpteen degree whilst any very valid evidence / comparison / or questions is simply ignored. The standard response of 'oh i am agruing cos they said it was a fact" is nonsense, just diverting attention away from actually agreeing that we are still failing as a football club.

What I have actually done is to try and get other fans to get more involved, I have asked / pushed the Trust to do more, I have stood up against a barrage of 'abuse' from posters like you, accusing me (and others) of personal agendas etc
In the past I have been to Trust board meetings, rattled buckets, volunteered at the club earning and saving them £10 000's, swept water from the path to ensure fans could get to the ground, escorted a current world cup manager to his seat aafter half time after we lost track of time talking, won supporter of the year for all most volunteer work etc etc etc.

So Uni what have you done then if you are not happy with relegation and the stadium?  How exactly have you shown u are not happy and what are you prepared to do about?  


You have no need to explain yourself. You've done more than most. Absolutely no need for the personal abuse on here.
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« Reply #22144 on: June 27, 2018, 12:26:03 pm »

Thanks Tom, I appreciate your support

I don't mind that some don't want to get involved, what i don't understand is why fans are so keen to put down those that make suggestions to try and push the club forward.

You have put info out there regarding funding of stands etc and every time you are subjected to sarcastic comments.

Then comes the "what have you done about it"  etc   LOL



 
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« Reply #22145 on: June 27, 2018, 12:28:58 pm »

I'm afraid this all comes with a vacuum of information. Really don't need to start turning on each other though.
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« Reply #22146 on: June 27, 2018, 12:36:20 pm »

sorry Uni I see very little evidence from most fans / posters on here, including you ! that they want anything better for their club. Those who ask questions of our owners are ridiculed by posters like yourself, comparisons with other clubs are nit picked to the umpteen degree whilst any very valid evidence / comparison / or questions is simply ignored. The standard response of 'oh i am agruing cos they said it was a fact" is nonsense, just diverting attention away from actually agreeing that we are still failing as a football club.

What I have actually done is to try and get other fans to get more involved, I have asked / pushed the Trust to do more, I have stood up against a barrage of 'abuse' from posters like you, accusing me (and others) of personal agendas etc
In the past I have been to Trust board meetings, rattled buckets, volunteered at the club earning and saving them £10 000's, swept water from the path to ensure fans could get to the ground, escorted a current world cup manager to his seat aafter half time after we lost track of time talking, won supporter of the year for all most volunteer work etc etc etc.

So Uni what have you done then if you are not happy with relegation and the stadium?  How exactly have you shown u are not happy and what are you prepared to do about?  

I genuinely applaud you for everything you have done for the club. I have no problem in saying you have done more than me. I ridicule (your words) people who ask questions on here but don't actually do anything about, they don't contact KT directly, they don't go to the open sessions, don't attend Trust meetings and just expect the Trust to pick everything up from posts on here.
I have contacted KT on facebook, I have submitted questions for the open sessions (I don't live in the town so not able to attend in person) and contacted the council about the land issue. Just because I, and others, don't post negative comments about the owner and chairman doesn't mean we are less passionate than you, we just chose to do it in a different way. You clearly lame the blame for the delay with the east stand with the owners, I lay the blame with the council. Until we have full facts we are both entitled to an opinion. I agree with you that it seems strange he hasn't unveiled his plans, I will challenge him on this after the legal side of the land mess is resolved.

meccanostand, if you see anything I have put as personal abuse then I apologies but I take someone saying I don't have passion for this club and I am happy we got relegated as an insult to myself
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« Reply #22147 on: June 27, 2018, 14:35:46 pm »

Hammy I don't understand why you are so vocal in your support of KT other than he talked to you rather than shouted at you like DC did

In terms of action his first 3 years have been very very similar to most of DC's tenure. Ie: 90% concentration on land, 10% on NTFC

There is no aspect of KT reign that you can say has been a success except a couple of loan signings for CW to romp away with the league.




I am no more vocal in my support for KT than I would be for anybody in his position. Where we differ is I'm assuming the best, but I'm prepared for the worst.

When he suggested the leases required attention so he could progress the club, he was attacked by you and your cronies for talking rubbish. It was music to you and the rest of the mood hoovers ears. When the council said there was nothing stopping him from doing what he wants, you was on it like a limpet. Yet when they finally admitted that there was irregularities in the lease and it required sorting, it went strangely quiet. So KT wasn't lying, mores, how disappointed some of you were. We are a few weeks down the line from that, and all of a sudden he's got to appease you again by stating what his next move is. WHat I like about KT, is he couldn't give a fcuk how much the moaners and the mopers cry.  Grin Grin

Like you, I don't know what's next. But I know that I can comfortably state that I have put about as much effort into changing things as you and a few others have. The difference being, that I don't elevate myself to some god like status in terms of my intentions for the club.
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« Reply #22148 on: June 27, 2018, 14:47:03 pm »

You're not very good at this debating malarkey are you😉
You’ve got to be kidding me, this ceased to be a debate a long time ago.
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« Reply #22149 on: June 27, 2018, 14:50:58 pm »

I genuinely applaud you for everything you have done for the club.
meccanostand, if you see anything I have put as personal abuse then I apologies but I take someone saying I don't have passion for this club and I am happy we got relegated as an insult to myself

Keep it up Uni - I also am unclear what both the blood brothers have done for the Club. Please advise Meccano and Random.
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« Reply #22150 on: June 27, 2018, 15:08:31 pm »

Ridiculous comment. It's a privately owned football club owned by people who give next to nothing away. What's he supposed to do? It's like expecting someone to cook a meal in the kitchen when they are locked out of the house.

I am not targeting specific individuals. Had you took the trouble to read the post, I stated all that come on here to detract, but extend it no further.

If I felt as strong as some on here do about it, I would have started by meeting with KT, or at least contacting him direct. I would have alerted the council, so as some said, they don't make the same mistake again. There are many better ways of making a point than on here.  

Well before DC did what he did, I met with him and raised my concerns. Prior to any money leaving the public purse I pestered the fcuk out of MacKintosh and the council not to release funds. I received written threats from DC's solicitors, as some on here have witnessed, because I knew what he was going to do. Some of the responses to those emails are now of interest to those pursuing the money, because they have public officials stating on their replies how the money would be monitored etc.

I don't expect some to cook when they are locked out Mr Cantona  Grin Grin. But I would have a lot more respect for someone, if they took time to complain to the actual cook, or at least had some salient point about the ingredients being used. If all you are prepared to do, is sit on here running up your post count saying the same thing, you clearly don't give that much of a fcuk.

Anyway.. I'm orf again. I prefer to hit and run these days. Or more like hit and shuffle off  Wink Tongue
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« Reply #22151 on: June 27, 2018, 15:11:48 pm »

When you care passionately about something feelings are going to run a bit high and people are going to have very different views on how best to achieve things? As a result there is going to be a fair bit of arguing and people will get their knickers in a twist, especially on a forum like this. Let’s not get too sensitive about it though eh? Generally speaking what gets said on here won’t make the slightest difference to the outcome of this or any other topic one way or the other? Although as humorous as it is, it’s true to say this particular thread has descended into complete absurdity.
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« Reply #22152 on: June 27, 2018, 15:58:08 pm »

everTHICK   please please stop embarrassing yourself, you are a **** idiot

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« Reply #22153 on: June 27, 2018, 16:04:42 pm »

Cheers Hammy, I did thing you had gone quiet  Grin

Not a loaded question mate but what timescale is acceptable to you for KT to seriously start sorting out the East stand ie: showing plans, applying for planning and starting work etc

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« Reply #22154 on: June 27, 2018, 16:25:51 pm »

I think it’s an understatement to say that some kind of an update from KT - both on and off the pitch is required.
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« Reply #22155 on: June 27, 2018, 17:18:45 pm »

If people want timescales why are they not making their actions directed at NBC? Ask why their legal department have not concluded the lease problem they created and when will they finish it. Especially as the Councillors have finally given them the directive to conclude the situation.

Only then should the spotlight be aimed at KT!!!
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« Reply #22156 on: June 27, 2018, 17:29:30 pm »

If people want timescales why are they not making their actions directed at NBC? Ask why their legal department have not concluded the lease problem they created and when will they finish it. Especially as the Councillors have finally given them the directive to conclude the situation.

Only then should the spotlight be aimed at KT!!!

This...chase up NBC as to why this still hasn't been resolved

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2018/june/NBC_statement/

BOROUGH COUNCIL PLEDGE TO WORK WITH THE COBBLERS TO CONCLUDE LEGAL LEASE FORMALITIES SPEEDILY
Statement from Northampton Borough Council

18 June 2018

At a Northampton Borough Council Cabinet meeting last Wednesday (13 June), members confirmed arrangements to regularise a lease on land at the PTS Academy Stadium.

The land forms part of the former athletics track to the east of the football stadium and will provide a clean site, allowing the redevelopment of Northampton Town Football Club’s East Stand.

Cllr Tim Hadland, Cabinet member for regeneration and enterprise, said: “We’re pleased to have cleared this element of the work so that the stand redevelopment can now proceed.

“The football club is part of the town’s essence and we have always been keen to see it succeed and thrive. We will now work with the club to ensure the formalities are dealt with as quickly as possible.”

Kelvin Thomas, Chairman of the club said: “As has been well documented this has been a long process, but we are very pleased to be so close to a resolution.

“We appreciated the Cabinet paper released last week which acknowledged that this problem existed and confirmed that CDNL was only ever trying to release control of a portion of land to the benefit of the football club.

“The positive Cabinet decision on Wednesday then gave permission for the Council to move ahead to regularise these incorrect leases and we will work with the Council closely to complete the legal formalities in a timely manner.

“We also appreciate Cllr Tim Hadland’s comments and the club looks forward to working together with NBC in a positive manner on both the stadium site, and in other areas of the club.”
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« Reply #22157 on: June 27, 2018, 17:37:15 pm »

Cheers Hammy, I did thing you had gone quiet  Grin

Not a loaded question mate but what timescale is acceptable to you for KT to seriously start sorting out the East stand ie: showing plans, applying for planning and starting work etc



18 months.
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« Reply #22158 on: June 27, 2018, 17:47:35 pm »

I wonder what those demanding the East Stand be finished or plans published what they reasonably expect KT to do with it? 
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« Reply #22159 on: June 27, 2018, 19:01:01 pm »

So... In the last six months, or possibly twelve. Enlighten us with how much you actually care. Tell me what you, Beds and a handful of over have done outside of this forum.

I don't want any rubbish about DC. You and Beds, and a few others. Tell me what you have done to avert the doomsday scenarios you predict.
You've got to admit all that triumphant fanfares over any small general repairs and the god awful over head projector shows and the embarrasing whooping hollering  and howling of fake laughter of the worshippers in attendance has thankfully stopped as well those regular youtube updates of nothingness has all but stopped and this has come about by supporters like all of us discussing exactly what is required  to serve us best, which looks a long way from what this lot have in mind.
Saying that I still hope they put their cards on the table as to what they propose for us after near 3 long years thats seen the club dumped back in the basement division.


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