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« Reply #22240 on: July 06, 2018, 10:16:10 am »

A.Cardoza said he was aware that the loan was to be used for the stadium only even though he took 2 million of it to pay back his loan
This for me is where the council have been negligent . They issued the loan in full without , it appears specifying exactly how it should be spent and tracking thereafter .
Surely using public money to pay off a personal loan is fraudulent ?
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« Reply #22241 on: July 06, 2018, 10:42:47 am »

Any idea why the Chron is not reporting on the Court Case between NBC & The Cardoza's?
Its being reported on on Radio Northampton.

It was mentioned on the Radio yesterday that Cardoza Senior said the trust knew about his £2m loan to the club and he was just taking his money back
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« Reply #22242 on: July 06, 2018, 10:46:13 am »

You can follow it on Twitter with Matt Precey
https://twitter.com/mattcprecey
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« Reply #22243 on: July 06, 2018, 10:48:28 am »

It's in the Redev thread, few of us following it there.
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« Reply #22244 on: July 06, 2018, 10:54:38 am »

Any idea why the Chron is not reporting on the Court Case between NBC & The Cardoza's?
Its being reported on on Radio Northampton.

It was mentioned on the Radio yesterday that Cardoza Senior said the trust knew about his £2m loan to the club and he was just taking his money back
Chron reporter Paul Lynch is there today.
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« Reply #22245 on: July 06, 2018, 10:57:00 am »

You would have thought this was a major story but it isn’t being picked up by local media at all .
A strange thing to say bearing in mind we all know about it from a local BBC reporter Grin
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« Reply #22246 on: July 06, 2018, 11:05:09 am »

He is 4 days late!!
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« Reply #22247 on: July 06, 2018, 11:33:01 am »

He is 4 days late!!
You do realise that court cases aren't as simple as you make out. For one, local media won't receive court lists from Birmingham, so it may take a while for the news to filter through. Secondly, how do you know that any person tipping off the local media didn't tell them that the first three days were boring procedure? I've attended trials where whole days have been dedicated to determining the smallest of legal details, none of which are relevant to actual reporting of cases.

It doesn't appear that we've missed any testimony from what I can see, but in any case local media could apply for transcripts from the first three days to scrutinise as to whether anything substantial may have been missed.
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« Reply #22248 on: July 06, 2018, 11:35:41 am »

Any idea why the Chron is not reporting on the Court Case between NBC & The Cardoza's?
Its being reported on on Radio Northampton.

It was mentioned on the Radio yesterday that Cardoza Senior said the trust knew about his £2m loan to the club and he was just taking his money back
Think it's also worth clarifying what local BBC reporter Matt Precey actually said about the Trust from yesterday's proceedings. Here is his tweet:

Morgan: Supporters Trust had car boot sales to raise club funds, ‘busting a gut’ to help out NTFC. But their rep wasn’t told about Anthony’s director’s loan repayments. Break for lunch.


Link here: https://twitter.com/mattcprecey/status/1014844263014813697
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« Reply #22249 on: July 06, 2018, 11:39:26 am »

Think it's also worth clarifying what local BBC reporter Matt Precey actually said about the Trust from yesterday's proceedings. Here is his tweet:

Morgan: Supporters Trust had car boot sales to raise club funds, ‘busting a gut’ to help out NTFC. But their rep wasn’t told about Anthony’s director’s loan repayments. Break for lunch.


Link here: https://twitter.com/mattcprecey/status/1014844263014813697

Apologises I obviously misheard - I was driving and trying to get across Rushden Lakes roundabout at the time and just heard Money and Trust and put 2 and 2 together and got 5!
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« Reply #22250 on: July 06, 2018, 11:46:06 am »

This for me is where the council have been negligent . They issued the loan in full without , it appears specifying exactly how it should be spent and tracking thereafter .
Surely using public money to pay off a personal loan is fraudulent ?
I simply don’t understand how the council would have failed to be both vigilant and diligent with regards to that amount of public money? If I didn’t know better I would suspect it was almost a deliberate act, who was in charge?
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« Reply #22251 on: July 06, 2018, 11:56:24 am »

I simply don’t understand how the council would have failed to be both vigilant and diligent with regards to that amount of public money? If I didn’t know better I would suspect it was almost a deliberate act, who was in charge?

They have just questioned Snr Cardoza about the Hotel Section and he stated that he wasnt involved - It was Gossman, Patnick & MacIntosh....
I think there is your answer about the council - MacIntosh
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« Reply #22252 on: July 06, 2018, 11:58:47 am »

Apologises I obviously misheard - I was driving and trying to get across Rushden Lakes roundabout at the time and just heard Money and Trust and put 2 and 2 together and got 5!

Reporting accurately could help;
The difference between what you said and what was actually said could have influenced many on here in their opinion of the Trust's involvement, some on here would use it as another stick to beat them with.
We have enough conjecture, truth economicals, mis-heards, mis-quotes, invented and down right lies on here already.
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« Reply #22253 on: July 06, 2018, 12:00:41 pm »

Merged, rather than spread across the two...
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« Reply #22254 on: July 06, 2018, 12:05:44 pm »

Reporting accurately could help;
The difference between what you said and what was actually said could have influenced many on here in their opinion of the Trust's involvement, some on here would use it as another stick to beat them with.
We have enough conjecture, truth economicals, mis-heards, mis-quotes, invented and down right lies on here already.

Good point. Does anyone know the legal ramifications
of commenting on this case. Particularly if any of the details end up used in a criminal case. Would urge caution at any conjecture. We need justice.
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« Reply #22255 on: July 06, 2018, 12:09:41 pm »

Reporting accurately could help;
The difference between what you said and what was actually said could have influenced many on here in their opinion of the Trust's involvement, some on here would use it as another stick to beat them with.
We have enough conjecture, truth economicals, mis-heards, mis-quotes, invented and down right lies on here already.

Im not a reporter and only said what i heard. No need to call me a liar!
I actually think the trust does a very good job and the club wouldnt be here without them.
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« Reply #22256 on: July 06, 2018, 12:11:15 pm »

Any idea why the Chron is not reporting on the Court Case between NBC & The Cardoza's?
Its being reported on on Radio Northampton.

It was mentioned on the Radio yesterday that Cardoza Senior said the trust knew about his £2m loan to the club and he was just taking his money back

The Chronicle won't have the funds to publish anything potentially legally contentious.

There is a nagging doubt that would things have got quite so far with some dogged investigative journalism from the off.

I would argue that individual fans were actually uncovering  stuff as effectively if not better than the press. Herald and Post now defunct actually uncovered some juicy stuff and were brave in their reporting on a tiny budget.
 
BBC late to the party but going great guns now. Look forward to David Cardoza being cross examined.
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« Reply #22257 on: July 06, 2018, 13:00:21 pm »

You do realise that court cases aren't as simple as you make out. For one, local media won't receive court lists from Birmingham, so it may take a while for the news to filter through. Secondly, how do you know that any person tipping off the local media didn't tell them that the first three days were boring procedure? I've attended trials where whole days have been dedicated to determining the smallest of legal details, none of which are relevant to actual reporting of cases.



Don't sound much like a "we took our eye off the ball" apology to me.

It's the Chron mate... We expect it to be late, inaccurate, plagiarised etc 
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« Reply #22258 on: July 06, 2018, 13:02:16 pm »

You would have thought this was a major story but it isn’t being picked up by local media at all .
Have they been caught out and didn’t know it was happening or are they running scared ?
How long is this due to run for do we know and will Grossman be called to the dock ?

They're definitely running scared, mate. I was one of those writing letters for a long time before the Cardozas' bubble actually burst, and it wasn't just NBC who didn't want to acknowledge there was a problem. Don't worry though, because once this is all in the bag, local media will be trumpeting their part in bringing this all to light. Roll Eyes

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ETA: I exclude the late and lamented Herald & Post from any criticism, as they were the only local media willing to do any digging. R.I.P. Northampton's top newspaper.
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« Reply #22259 on: July 06, 2018, 13:03:00 pm »

You do realise that court cases aren't as simple as you make out. For one, local media won't receive court lists from Birmingham, so it may take a while for the news to filter through. Secondly, how do you know that any person tipping off the local media didn't tell them that the first three days were boring procedure? I've attended trials where whole days have been dedicated to determining the smallest of legal details, none of which are relevant to actual reporting of cases.

It doesn't appear that we've missed any testimony from what I can see, but in any case local media could apply for transcripts from the first three days to scrutinise as to whether anything substantial may have been missed.


Can tell you're from Wellingborough.
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