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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #22480 on: July 13, 2018, 13:30:35 pm »

Again please exercise caution when commenting on this issue. Live police investigation still ongoing. Speculation more likely to cause more harm than good. Don't give anyone potentially charged an opportunity to say they will not get a fair trial because of accusations on social media. The QC is doing a good job in the civil case of uncovering detail and the police will want a result.

Perhaps Admin can use their discretion on this issue and remove/caution those posts which might cause issues - in their judgement.
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« Reply #22481 on: July 13, 2018, 15:19:23 pm »

https://twitter.com/juliansturdy1/status/1017775012735053831

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« Reply #22482 on: July 13, 2018, 16:31:59 pm »

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« Reply #22483 on: July 13, 2018, 18:02:58 pm »

The problem is that it would appear that from a legal standpoint he has done nothing wrong. Morally he is the scum of the earth, but morals don't have any legal standing. He is obviously adept at the money moving scams, based on how many companies he has formed and disolved.
Yes but it is illegal to take on business knowing that your own business is going under as a director .
Itís also illegal to pay monies that are for no apparent reason .
I donít want to jeopardise anything and so will leave it at that .
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« Reply #22484 on: July 13, 2018, 18:33:09 pm »

Yes but it is illegal to take on business knowing that your own business is going under as a director .
It’s also illegal to pay monies that are for no apparent reason .
I don’t want to jeopardise anything and so will leave it at that .

The problem with that is you must prove intent and forethought to obtain a conviction. Paying monies with no apparent reason is covered by "consultation fees".
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« Reply #22485 on: July 13, 2018, 19:21:44 pm »

The problem with that is you must prove intent and forethought to obtain a conviction. Paying monies with no apparent reason is covered by "consultation fees".
To a company called "County Cemetery Services" when you are building a football stand ?  Maybe that's where they've buried the money  Smiley
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« Reply #22486 on: July 13, 2018, 23:50:52 pm »

The problem with that is you must prove intent and forethought to obtain a conviction. Paying monies with no apparent reason is covered by "consultation fees".
Thatís exactly right. Therefore unfortunately it doesnít matter what you believe, it only matters what you can prove. Proving intent and forethought in fraud cases is notoriously complex and difficult, hence the length of time and effort required to build a case.
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« Reply #22487 on: July 14, 2018, 12:07:12 pm »

Interesting the Cardoza's QC states they sold the club for a pound.
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« Reply #22488 on: July 14, 2018, 13:42:08 pm »

That was common knowledge wasn't it.
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« Reply #22489 on: July 14, 2018, 16:06:25 pm »

That was common knowledge wasn't it.

I thought so.
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« Reply #22490 on: July 16, 2018, 12:45:41 pm »

Same goes on this thread and the whole site.... All posts that suggest, or directly imply that a crime has occurred are going to get deleted. I have dealt with some of these guys solicitors before. They will definitely be watching, and they will definitely pursue you. No ridiculous alleged or apparently comment either. I'd steer well clear of it all.     
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« Reply #22491 on: July 16, 2018, 18:08:58 pm »

Same goes on this thread and the whole site.... All posts that suggest, or directly imply that a crime has occurred are going to get deleted. I have dealt with some of these guys solicitors before. They will definitely be watching, and they will definitely pursue you. No ridiculous alleged or apparently comment either. I'd steer well clear of it all.     
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« Reply #22492 on: July 20, 2018, 16:02:58 pm »

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« Reply #22493 on: July 20, 2018, 16:37:46 pm »

Reckon that might be the wrong link mate.

Interesting KT interview though which someone can link to I am sure.
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« Reply #22494 on: July 20, 2018, 16:42:09 pm »

Reckon that might be the wrong link mate.
Interesting KT interview though which someone can link to I am sure.

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« Reply #22495 on: July 20, 2018, 17:56:51 pm »

The biggest takeaway from that for me was that both KT and Bower arenít going to be around much (we probably figured that anyway as one has family in Florida and the other lives in Dubai) and that talks were progressing with a couple of groups (sounds like possibly a consortium and an individual) with a view to partnerships. I just hope any partnership is a bit more robust than the last one.
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« Reply #22496 on: July 20, 2018, 19:47:49 pm »

The biggest takeaway from that for me was that both KT and Bower arenít going to be around much (we probably figured that anyway as one has family in Florida and the other lives in Dubai) and that talks were progressing with a couple of groups (sounds like possibly a consortium and an individual) with a view to partnerships. I just hope any partnership is a bit more robust than the last one.

What I took from it was that they couldn't have filmed it in a worse location.
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« Reply #22497 on: July 20, 2018, 20:38:51 pm »

The biggest takeaway from that for me was that both KT and Bower arenít going to be around much (we probably figured that anyway as one has family in Florida and the other lives in Dubai) and that talks were progressing with a couple of groups (sounds like possibly a consortium and an individual) with a view to partnerships. I just hope any partnership is a bit more robust than the last one.

Partnerships probabaly means that he will flog the club but get a few quid extra when the fruit machine pays out!  Grin

In all seriousness, I hope this isn't the case. But I can't help but think that whilst the club isn't worth more than a pound without this land, the new 'partners' might be coming in to see the whole land thing bear fruit. Get the club cheap/freeÖcover the costs..sort the redev outÖand then KT and Co get their cut.

Its all so hush hush. We shall see. On the flip side, fair play to him/them for giving the team a competitive budget for next season as things stand. Its clear that he's a football man as well as a crafty deal breaker. I just find it frustrating that 'outsiders' with a few bob will ultimately make a few extra quid for themselves whereas if the club was run by 'fans' all of the pot would go to where it *should go. But hey ho, thats the way the world is these days I guess. Im finding this whole saga so difficult to comprehend being politically, a capitalist!  Grin
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« Reply #22498 on: July 20, 2018, 22:05:28 pm »

Unless the partners pick up the redevelopment and KT oversees the football club.

That would be ideal

The accountant and the solicitor can sit quietly in the background
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« Reply #22499 on: July 21, 2018, 10:00:14 am »

Wow KT's interview lasted for 10 plus mins, and in a nutshell he won't let any players leave until he gets at let gas much as he paid for them, even though they want to leave. he's trying to flog the club but no one is stupid enough   Grin and as for the comprehensive update on the east stand ....... Errrrrrrr ummmmmm errrrrrrrrr its errrmmmmm urrrrr the same as errrrrr two years ago.
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