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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #23300 on: September 27, 2018, 16:25:16 pm »

In answer to meccanostand, overall I think they have done well but there is plenty of room for improvement. I tend to look at a club like Stevenage as a model for what we could improve upon. It's a very progressive club. Their stadium is on the same road as their first team and academy training grounds. Both training grounds have been utilised in recent years. The chairman admitted he didn't have funds for a new stand so they crowd-funded it with additional grants. It's being built presently. They have an U23s which they used pre-season to give experience to some of their U18s and a few U16s. Although our current owners have done a very good job in increasing revenue from the commercial and catering side - and not forgetting the link up with Nike - I don't believe they have the interest or passion to improve the club further. That's fine. I respect that. They have done an awful lot to make us a more viable and appealing club for someone else to invest in. Because of the problems on the pitch, they are judged harshly in my opinion. When/ if they leave, I will be grateful for the time and work they've done and our continued survival.   

Some good points there. Fair enough.
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« Reply #23301 on: September 27, 2018, 16:49:32 pm »

If the current owners were committed to our club, long term, I would be more than happy but the Chron article today suggests they are keen to move on.
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« Reply #23302 on: September 27, 2018, 17:05:50 pm »

They're supposed to be that shape..

Ha Ha  Grin - said gusts of wind broke the canes too. All in the brown wheelie now! Dwarf beans survived tho! I take my gardening very seriously Wink
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« Reply #23303 on: September 27, 2018, 17:08:06 pm »

Grin Grin Grin

Strange that as can never imagine you laughing at anything!
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« Reply #23304 on: September 27, 2018, 17:10:49 pm »

In answer to meccanostand, overall I think they have done well but there is plenty of room for improvement. I tend to look at a club like Stevenage as a model for what we could improve upon. .......................................

Sincerely hope not as they struggle to get 3k gates and 25% of that is from the oppo.

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« Reply #23305 on: September 27, 2018, 17:27:02 pm »

Ha Ha  Grin - said gusts of wind broke the canes too. All in the brown wheelie now! Dwarf beans survived tho! I take my gardening very seriously Wink

It's a pain when the weather makes it a uphill task. The recent gusts blew my plums off and now the crows are pecking at them Cry They were only small anyway because of the heat this year so not a great loss.
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« Reply #23306 on: September 27, 2018, 21:37:58 pm »

Attendances may not be great but they are run much better as a football club than we are.
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« Reply #23307 on: September 27, 2018, 22:22:05 pm »

How would people weigh up Kelvin Thomas and David Bower's time at the club. It's worth considering the pros and cons of their tenures and what they have and haven't delivered.

Pros

1.Won the league or finished the job at least.
2. More professional set up.
3. Investment in training ground at Moulton.
4. Youth team doing pretty well.
5.Match day experience better (bar the performances).
6. Improved community work.
7. Built relationship with University.
8.Tie in with Nike which the Kids buy into.
9. Educational work inc St Crispins site.
10. Possibly cleared up the lease issues meaning a new investment can finish work on East.
11. Investigated safe standing.
12. Better relationship with business community.
13. Steadied the ship and ensured we didn't get demoted down the divisions.

Cons

1. Haven't finish the East Stand
2. Haven't invested the £4 million mentioned on takeover. Or it appears that way, happy to be corrected.
3. Relegation battle into non-league.
5. Problematic investment from Chinese.
6. Problematic player and management recruitment.

The cons surrounding ambition, let's not call them promises on the takeover are a major bugbear for Random and Beds etc but what's done is done.

Different people will say the pros outweigh the cons and vice versa.

Overall though, Thomas' and Bower's legacy will be defined by their next moves. If they pass on the club to new owners who truly have the Cobblers and the fans at heart and in a reasonable financial condition then fair enough. Let's hope the asking price is reasonable too.

Quite a few ifs in there but a fair summary for me.
By doing up your shoelaces you're seen as more professional so 1 to 12 are not pro's but just the minimum requirements to everyday running of a 4th division club, nothing more nothing less.
The con's show clearly why we need this lot to sell up fast.
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« Reply #23308 on: September 27, 2018, 22:46:09 pm »


Wouldn’t it be better if they changed it for a sign that didn’t have to be taken down each time there is a forecast of high winds?
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« Reply #23309 on: September 28, 2018, 07:53:41 am »

Stevenage have had to call a halt to building work on their new North Stand because of a land lease issue...

https://www.stevenagefc.com/news/2018/june/stevenage-north-stand-work-halted-june-2018/
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« Reply #23310 on: September 28, 2018, 08:30:12 am »

Stevenage have had to call a halt to building work on their new North Stand because of a land lease issue...

https://www.stevenagefc.com/news/2018/june/stevenage-north-stand-work-halted-june-2018/

The update:
https://www.stevenagefc.com/news/2018/september/north-stand-phil-wallace-stevenage-fc-update-september-2018/
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« Reply #23311 on: September 28, 2018, 09:13:50 am »

Stevenage new stand on track despite bit of wrangling over a substation. Mini bonds paid out first tranche of interest to investors.

In short did we require cardozas mad scheme to put some boxes on the East? No.

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« Reply #23312 on: September 28, 2018, 09:33:25 am »

I'm impressed with what Stevenage are doing. Same with Exeter. These are clubs without wealthy backers but thanks to fans and ambition are moving forward.
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« Reply #23313 on: October 01, 2018, 11:41:42 am »

Most worrying thing about Thomas' interview is that everyone he talks to says the club is operating "fine"

"We've had discussions about selling etc we've had people say to us we don't see any areas where don't see any areas in the club, apart from on the pitch where we can make any improvements".
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« Reply #23314 on: October 01, 2018, 16:31:09 pm »

Most worrying thing about Thomas' interview is that everyone he talks to says the club is operating "fine"

"We've had discussions about selling etc we've had people say to us we don't see any areas in the club, apart from on the pitch where we can make any improvements".

Yeah, it made me smile when he said that. If only he'd bother to sit up and look across the pitch, eh? Grin
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« Reply #23315 on: October 01, 2018, 17:48:13 pm »

Yeah, it made me smile when he said that. If only he'd bother to sit up and look across the pitch, eh? Grin
We are a traditional three-sided club. Rather like a three-legged dog. Why bother with four?
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« Reply #23316 on: October 03, 2018, 14:07:10 pm »

About the High Court hearing into Northampton Borough Council's claim against Cardoza family members held at the Birmingham high court which finished in July, with a judgement expected in September.

Does anybody know what has happened to this case.
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« Reply #23317 on: October 03, 2018, 14:14:43 pm »

Still waiting for the judgement.
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« Reply #23318 on: October 03, 2018, 14:33:25 pm »

Still waiting for the judgement.
To be honest who really cares what the outcome of this is, we all knew he was always going to cream off £3m plus and we hoped get a £3 to 4m working stand.
He weaseled the lot, got stung and we ended up with  nothing.
So pursuing him for money he hasn't got is pointless, like my dear old Dad used to say, 'You cant take trousers of a bare arse'
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« Reply #23319 on: October 03, 2018, 15:26:11 pm »

To be honest who really cares what the outcome of this is, we all knew he was always going to cream off £3m plus and we hoped get a £3 to 4m working stand.
He weaseled the lot, got stung and we ended up with  nothing.
So pursuing him for money he hasn't got is pointless, like my dear old Dad used to say, 'You cant take trousers of a bare arse'
First of all I do, secondly... so we should just let him get away with it?
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