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« Reply #23300 on: September 22, 2018, 13:59:59 pm »

I noticed that the huge PTS stadium sign is no longer up outside the west stand. I wonder if it fell down during the strong winds earlier in the week?

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For those asking about the big sign outside the stadium, following safety advice from our signage partner and in view of high winds over last few days, the sign has been temporarily removed. The sign will be put back up ahead of the next home game.

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« Reply #23301 on: September 22, 2018, 14:40:58 pm »

Does the club have to refund PTS a fiver being as the sign is not there today?  Grin

Seriously........how many other businesses had to remove signage in the past few days? It was a bit of wind not a bloody hurricane!
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« Reply #23302 on: September 27, 2018, 12:54:22 pm »

How would people weigh up Kelvin Thomas and David Bower's time at the club. It's worth considering the pros and cons of their tenures and what they have and haven't delivered.

Pros

1.Won the league or finished the job at least.
2. More professional set up.
3. Investment in training ground at Moulton.
4. Youth team doing pretty well.
5.Match day experience better (bar the performances).
6. Improved community work.
7. Built relationship with University.
8.Tie in with Nike which the Kids buy into.
9. Educational work inc St Crispins site.
10. Possibly cleared up the lease issues meaning a new investment can finish work on East.
11. Investigated safe standing.
12. Better relationship with business community.
13. Steadied the ship and ensured we didn't get demoted down the divisions.

Cons

1. Haven't finish the East Stand
2. Haven't invested the £4 million mentioned on takeover. Or it appears that way, happy to be corrected.
3. Relegation battle into non-league.
5. Problematic investment from Chinese.
6. Problematic player and management recruitment.

The cons surrounding ambition, let's not call them promises on the takeover are a major bugbear for Random and Beds etc but what's done is done.

Different people will say the pros outweigh the cons and vice versa.

Overall though, Thomas' and Bower's legacy will be defined by their next moves. If they pass on the club to new owners who truly have the Cobblers and the fans at heart and in a reasonable financial condition then fair enough. Let's hope the asking price is reasonable too.

Quite a few ifs in there but a fair summary for me.
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« Reply #23303 on: September 27, 2018, 14:39:27 pm »

Does the club have to refund PTS a fiver being as the sign is not there today?  Grin

Seriously........how many other businesses had to remove signage in the past few days? It was a bit of wind not a bloody hurricane!

Stronger than ‘a bit of wind’ strong enough to flatten my runner beans!
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« Reply #23304 on: September 27, 2018, 14:52:02 pm »

Stronger than ‘a bit of wind’ strong enough to flatten my runner beans!

Blimey.....was it that bad?
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« Reply #23305 on: September 27, 2018, 15:47:51 pm »

Stronger than ‘a bit of wind’ strong enough to flatten my runner beans!

They're supposed to be that shape..
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« Reply #23306 on: September 27, 2018, 15:49:05 pm »

Stronger than ‘a bit of wind’ strong enough to flatten my runner beans!

I heard that Bob Geldorf is putting his band back together...
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« Reply #23307 on: September 27, 2018, 15:59:07 pm »

They're supposed to be that shape..
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« Reply #23308 on: September 27, 2018, 16:17:27 pm »

In answer to meccanostand, overall I think they have done well but there is plenty of room for improvement. I tend to look at a club like Stevenage as a model for what we could improve upon. It's a very progressive club. Their stadium is on the same road as their first team and academy training grounds. Both training grounds have been utilised in recent years. The chairman admitted he didn't have funds for a new stand so they crowd-funded it with additional grants. It's being built presently. They have an U23s which they used pre-season to give experience to some of their U18s and a few U16s. Although our current owners have done a very good job in increasing revenue from the commercial and catering side - and not forgetting the link up with Nike - I don't believe they have the interest or passion to improve the club further. That's fine. I respect that. They have done an awful lot to make us a more viable and appealing club for someone else to invest in. Because of the problems on the pitch, they are judged harshly in my opinion. When/ if they leave, I will be grateful for the time and work they've done and our continued survival.   
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« Reply #23309 on: September 27, 2018, 16:25:16 pm »

In answer to meccanostand, overall I think they have done well but there is plenty of room for improvement. I tend to look at a club like Stevenage as a model for what we could improve upon. It's a very progressive club. Their stadium is on the same road as their first team and academy training grounds. Both training grounds have been utilised in recent years. The chairman admitted he didn't have funds for a new stand so they crowd-funded it with additional grants. It's being built presently. They have an U23s which they used pre-season to give experience to some of their U18s and a few U16s. Although our current owners have done a very good job in increasing revenue from the commercial and catering side - and not forgetting the link up with Nike - I don't believe they have the interest or passion to improve the club further. That's fine. I respect that. They have done an awful lot to make us a more viable and appealing club for someone else to invest in. Because of the problems on the pitch, they are judged harshly in my opinion. When/ if they leave, I will be grateful for the time and work they've done and our continued survival.   

Some good points there. Fair enough.
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« Reply #23310 on: September 27, 2018, 16:49:32 pm »

If the current owners were committed to our club, long term, I would be more than happy but the Chron article today suggests they are keen to move on.
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« Reply #23311 on: September 27, 2018, 17:05:50 pm »

They're supposed to be that shape..

Ha Ha  Grin - said gusts of wind broke the canes too. All in the brown wheelie now! Dwarf beans survived tho! I take my gardening very seriously Wink
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« Reply #23312 on: September 27, 2018, 17:08:06 pm »

Grin Grin Grin

Strange that as can never imagine you laughing at anything!
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« Reply #23313 on: September 27, 2018, 17:10:49 pm »

In answer to meccanostand, overall I think they have done well but there is plenty of room for improvement. I tend to look at a club like Stevenage as a model for what we could improve upon. .......................................

Sincerely hope not as they struggle to get 3k gates and 25% of that is from the oppo.

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« Reply #23314 on: September 27, 2018, 17:27:02 pm »

Ha Ha  Grin - said gusts of wind broke the canes too. All in the brown wheelie now! Dwarf beans survived tho! I take my gardening very seriously Wink

It's a pain when the weather makes it a uphill task. The recent gusts blew my plums off and now the crows are pecking at them Cry They were only small anyway because of the heat this year so not a great loss.
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« Reply #23315 on: September 27, 2018, 21:37:58 pm »

Attendances may not be great but they are run much better as a football club than we are.
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« Reply #23316 on: September 27, 2018, 22:22:05 pm »

How would people weigh up Kelvin Thomas and David Bower's time at the club. It's worth considering the pros and cons of their tenures and what they have and haven't delivered.

Pros

1.Won the league or finished the job at least.
2. More professional set up.
3. Investment in training ground at Moulton.
4. Youth team doing pretty well.
5.Match day experience better (bar the performances).
6. Improved community work.
7. Built relationship with University.
8.Tie in with Nike which the Kids buy into.
9. Educational work inc St Crispins site.
10. Possibly cleared up the lease issues meaning a new investment can finish work on East.
11. Investigated safe standing.
12. Better relationship with business community.
13. Steadied the ship and ensured we didn't get demoted down the divisions.

Cons

1. Haven't finish the East Stand
2. Haven't invested the £4 million mentioned on takeover. Or it appears that way, happy to be corrected.
3. Relegation battle into non-league.
5. Problematic investment from Chinese.
6. Problematic player and management recruitment.

The cons surrounding ambition, let's not call them promises on the takeover are a major bugbear for Random and Beds etc but what's done is done.

Different people will say the pros outweigh the cons and vice versa.

Overall though, Thomas' and Bower's legacy will be defined by their next moves. If they pass on the club to new owners who truly have the Cobblers and the fans at heart and in a reasonable financial condition then fair enough. Let's hope the asking price is reasonable too.

Quite a few ifs in there but a fair summary for me.
By doing up your shoelaces you're seen as more professional so 1 to 12 are not pro's but just the minimum requirements to everyday running of a 4th division club, nothing more nothing less.
The con's show clearly why we need this lot to sell up fast.
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« Reply #23317 on: September 27, 2018, 22:46:09 pm »


Wouldn’t it be better if they changed it for a sign that didn’t have to be taken down each time there is a forecast of high winds?
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« Reply #23318 on: September 28, 2018, 07:53:41 am »

Stevenage have had to call a halt to building work on their new North Stand because of a land lease issue...

https://www.stevenagefc.com/news/2018/june/stevenage-north-stand-work-halted-june-2018/
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« Reply #23319 on: September 28, 2018, 08:30:12 am »

Stevenage have had to call a halt to building work on their new North Stand because of a land lease issue...

https://www.stevenagefc.com/news/2018/june/stevenage-north-stand-work-halted-june-2018/

The update:
https://www.stevenagefc.com/news/2018/september/north-stand-phil-wallace-stevenage-fc-update-september-2018/
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