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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #23860 on: January 24, 2019, 10:41:50 am »

Great news, presuming that their guilt here may influence the investigation/decision for the larger missing amount?
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« Reply #23861 on: January 24, 2019, 10:42:33 am »

Anyone got a link to this as I can't seem to find one. Does the amount Captain Tony has to repay include NBC's costs or are they in addition? Weren't they well over half a million as well?
https://twitter.com/JAverillJourno/with_replies
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« Reply #23862 on: January 24, 2019, 10:56:31 am »

68 page judgement to follow later today with the details.
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« Reply #23863 on: January 24, 2019, 11:15:28 am »

Can someone who is qualified to comment as opposed to speculate , translate what this means in terms of criminal proceedings ?
I understand it’s a civil case , but how does this affect the criminal case ?
How also does it affect the missing £7 mill that remains unaccounted .
I wonder if tony cardoza is able to pay the £3 mill ?
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« Reply #23864 on: January 24, 2019, 11:37:53 am »

Did NBC just go after the Cardoza's or have they gone after their cronies too?

Also wonder if that includes the legal fees as that'll make a fairly significant difference to the final figure owed... not that they'll probably ever see any of it anyway.
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« Reply #23865 on: January 24, 2019, 12:15:49 pm »

All are reminded to be careful what they post on here, this may feel like a victory but nothing has been proved in a criminal court.

NBC have only retrieved what they were owed from who they could reasonably expect to do so in this civil action case.
The criminal aspect, if any, has a fair way to run and may include none, some, or all the previously named persons.
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« Reply #23866 on: January 24, 2019, 13:33:30 pm »

Really interesting thread here with sections from the final report
https://twitter.com/mattcprecey/with_replies
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« Reply #23867 on: January 24, 2019, 13:47:21 pm »

Judge’s verdict on David Cardoza: “the truth is a concept of no value or significance to DC, even when on oath. As with Anthony, unless consistent with undisputed facts or supported by independent documents, DC’s evidence was, and is to be viewed as, unreliable”

Maybe some humble pie on the menu tonight for some amongst our fanbase? Maybe those who made life difficult for those who backed the #wewantanswers protest...
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« Reply #23868 on: January 24, 2019, 14:03:48 pm »

Really interesting thread here with sections from the final report
https://twitter.com/mattcprecey/with_replies


Some stunningly brutal comments on there. Oh, and well done James Whiting who might just be the person who provides a bit of redemption to the reputation of our club which has been dragged through the gutter, at least in the eyes of the wider community of the town.
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« Reply #23869 on: January 24, 2019, 14:04:34 pm »

Some stunningly brutal comments on there. Oh, and well done James Whiting who might just be the person who provides a bit of redemption to the reputation of our club which has been dragged through the gutter, at least in the eyes of the wider community of the town.

Fully agree about James Whiting.
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« Reply #23870 on: January 24, 2019, 14:09:52 pm »

Fully agree about James Whiting.

Apologies for spinning off at a tangent but are you still meeting with KT tomorrow?
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« Reply #23871 on: January 24, 2019, 15:24:21 pm »

Apologies for spinning off at a tangent but are you still meeting with KT tomorrow?

Monday afternoon now mate.
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« Reply #23872 on: January 24, 2019, 15:27:15 pm »

Monday afternoon now mate.

Ah the old ever moving meeting! Are you doing it for your podcast?
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« Reply #23873 on: January 24, 2019, 15:38:16 pm »

Ah the old ever moving meeting! Are you doing it for your podcast?

It isn't podcast related no. Just a chance to chat about a few things.

May try and get some bits for the podcast though.
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« Reply #23874 on: January 24, 2019, 15:53:14 pm »

I wish they could nail the parasite in North London where the money sits .
Let’s hope he gets his come uppance because in my view he is more distasteful than Cardoza .
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« Reply #23875 on: January 24, 2019, 16:22:33 pm »

It isn't podcast related no. Just a chance to chat about a few things.

May try and get some bits for the podcast though.
Is it possible to ask KT if he has a 'target' design for the stadium drawn up?
ie; 15K capacity with Executive Boxes, North and South stands expanded and the corners filled in. 
Is a Hotel and Conference Centre included?

At least supporters could see the longterm aim even if it is done in small stages!

Also does he envisage overseeing any expansion himself or will it be new investors/owners to drive the expansion forward!
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« Reply #23876 on: January 24, 2019, 16:37:18 pm »

Judge’s verdict on David Cardoza: “the truth is a concept of no value or significance to DC, even when on oath. As with Anthony, unless consistent with undisputed facts or supported by independent documents, DC’s evidence was, and is to be viewed as, unreliable.

Unfortunately honesty now seems an outdated virtue if our politicians are seen as an example - they consistently lie and have absolutely no shame when caught out.
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« Reply #23877 on: January 24, 2019, 17:56:49 pm »

I wish they could nail the parasite in North London where the money sits .
Let’s hope he gets his come uppance because in my view he is more distasteful than Cardoza .

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« Reply #23878 on: January 24, 2019, 18:22:07 pm »

Can someone who is qualified to comment as opposed to speculate , translate what this means in terms of criminal proceedings ?
I understand it’s a civil case , but how does this affect the criminal case ?
How also does it affect the missing £7 mill that remains unaccounted .
I wonder if tony cardoza is able to pay the £3 mill ?

Legally a civil case should have no bearing on a criminal case and should be treated as 2 separate non-related entities. However in reality, it tends to suggest the criminal case would have some legs to it!. It’s is like I have a nose bleed, so,in probability someone has punched me on the nose. Problem is proving it..

In regards to the police case, I did some work for the county a few years back, at the time this all kicked off, and it literally was the biggest case they have or have ever dealt with. At the time some 30+ people were on the case on a daily basis for many weeks and months, and in respect to this I suspect a very high percentage of the annual budget was used on this case!! I just hope the cost didn’t impare other Police investigations/support programs..

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« Reply #23879 on: January 24, 2019, 18:37:36 pm »

Is it possible to ask KT if he has a 'target' design for the stadium drawn up?
ie; 15K capacity with Executive Boxes, North and South stands expanded and the corners filled in. 
Is a Hotel and Conference Centre included?

At least supporters could see the longterm aim even if it is done in small stages!

Also does he envisage overseeing any expansion himself or will it be new investors/owners to drive the expansion forward!

I'll ask...
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