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« Reply #24200 on: February 24, 2019, 10:23:37 am »

Asset of Community Value status granted on Sixfields stadium but not the athletic track.

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« Reply #24201 on: February 24, 2019, 14:15:46 pm »

Maybe that's because there isn't an athletics track any more, just unused land, which could hardly be deemed to be a "community asset"
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« Reply #24202 on: February 26, 2019, 09:03:32 am »

Leicester get planning permission for £80million training ground. Gulp.

http://trainingground.guru/articles/leicester-get-planning-permission-for-80m-training-centre




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« Reply #24203 on: February 26, 2019, 16:34:59 pm »

Leicester get planning permission for £80million training ground. Gulp.

http://trainingground.guru/articles/leicester-get-planning-permission-for-80m-training-centre






Yeah, but that figure is peanuts when you consider the obscene amounts the Prem clubs get from the pot.
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« Reply #24204 on: February 26, 2019, 19:42:26 pm »

It's good to see our glory hunters never  travelled to Leicester or even Coventry when they the were pulling up trees.
We have many generations still to this day getting on board with Don Revies dirty Leeds or the 1970 fa cup victors Chelsea. 
Man Utd, Liverpool and the top 4 London clubs have also taken advantage of the disenfranchised Northamptonians totally fed up of the crap land grabbing owners of the past 20 years subjecting our towns football club to a side show!
Thankfully we are in a good position to change the mind set and recently seeing 15000 fanatical Northampton saints many very drink! fans staggering happily about our town, tells me it time for change.
Let's all back the trust 100%.
I'm sick of Cardoza/ Thomas's football club, I want our own club.
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« Reply #24205 on: March 04, 2019, 17:27:13 pm »

NBC include athletics track area in the Trust's application for Asset Of Community Value along with the stadium.

https://twitter.com/NQNTFC/status/1102506808566927363
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« Reply #24206 on: March 04, 2019, 19:43:41 pm »

NBC include athletics track area in the Trust's application for Asset Of Community Value along with the stadium.

https://twitter.com/NQNTFC/status/1102506808566927363

Wow. Well done. You've potentially hobbled any future development opportunities surrounding the athletics track area. Still, better it's left derelict than the current owners make a few quid or of it, eh?
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« Reply #24207 on: March 04, 2019, 20:46:19 pm »

KT won't be happy. Ha bloody ha.
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« Reply #24208 on: March 04, 2019, 22:18:05 pm »

KT won't be happy. Ha bloody ha.

Iím struggling to work out how pi**ing off KT is going to be beneficial to us in the long term?
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« Reply #24209 on: March 05, 2019, 00:03:39 am »

Iím struggling to work out how pi**ing off KT is going to be beneficial to us in the long term?

Good comment
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« Reply #24210 on: March 05, 2019, 00:18:00 am »

Good comment

Really? Go on then genius; just for once explain why you think something is a good comment? All the decision means is that the area of land concerned must now remain an integral part of the community asset. KT has already helped himself to a far larger slice of NBC's pie, so I doubt this action is liable to **** him off. It also allows the prospect for substantial development of the East Stand in future years, so how is it a bad decision?
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« Reply #24211 on: March 05, 2019, 04:45:31 am »

Really? Go on then genius; just for once explain why you think something is a good comment? All the decision means is that the area of land concerned must now remain an integral part of the community asset. KT has already helped himself to a far larger slice of NBC's pie, so I doubt this action is liable to **** him off. It also allows the prospect for substantial development of the East Stand in future years, so how is it a bad decision?
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« Reply #24212 on: March 05, 2019, 07:12:13 am »

Iím struggling to work out how pi**ing off KT is going to be beneficial to us in the long term?

It is us supporters who should be seriously pissed off with KT not vice versa.   
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« Reply #24213 on: March 05, 2019, 07:33:18 am »

Iím struggling to work out how pi**ing off KT is going to be beneficial to us in the long term?

Because the sooner he goes the better.
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« Reply #24214 on: March 05, 2019, 08:48:04 am »

Because the sooner he goes the better.

Thatís as maybe but if it causes him to dig his heels in then the stalemate is likely to continue for the foreseeable future.
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« Reply #24215 on: March 05, 2019, 09:15:06 am »

Thatís as maybe but if it causes him to dig his heels in then the stalemate is likely to continue for the foreseeable future.

Can you honestly see him digging his heels in once the price is right? He could walk away from the football club today and he'd still be holding the CDNL leases.
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« Reply #24216 on: March 05, 2019, 09:26:39 am »

Can you honestly see him digging his heels in once the price is right? He could walk away from the football club today and he'd still be holding the CDNL leases.

I donít exactly see potential buyers lining up to take the club off KTís hands and the chances of the Trust/community models being able to find the funds are pretty slim (do we actually know how much KT is looking for in terms of a takeover in any case?). Anyway, Iím already regretting contributing to this thread as it is full of politics and ulterior motives - Iím going to stick to the football side of things.
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« Reply #24217 on: March 05, 2019, 09:53:34 am »

I donít exactly see potential buyers lining up to take the club off KTís hands and the chances of the Trust/community models being able to find the funds are pretty slim (do we actually know how much KT is looking for in terms of a takeover in any case?). Anyway, Iím already regretting contributing to this thread as it is full of politics and ulterior motives - Iím going to stick to the football side of things.

Donít be put off by the political bullies - you are entitled to your opinion so stand by it.  Itís what you preach! Good luck!


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« Reply #24218 on: March 05, 2019, 09:58:00 am »

Really? Go on then genius; just for once explain why you think something is a good comment? All the decision means is that the area of land concerned must now remain an integral part of the community asset. KT has already helped himself to a far larger slice of NBC's pie, so I doubt this action is liable to **** him off. It also allows the prospect for substantial development of the East Stand in future years, so how is it a bad decision?

Are you celebrating pancake day? Where you at Crewe? Lighten up Plato!
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« Reply #24219 on: March 05, 2019, 09:58:35 am »

Really? Go on then genius; just for once explain why you think something is a good comment? All the decision means is that the area of land concerned must now remain an integral part of the community asset. KT has already helped himself to a far larger slice of NBC's pie, so I doubt this action is liable to **** him off. It also allows the prospect for substantial development of the East Stand in future years, so how is it a bad decision?

Well... Let me give you an idea how.

Even if fan ownership is achieved the club will stand just as still as it is now, unless they can do something that no club has ever done in lower league football without significant external investment. Namely, make money from gate receipts alone. By making that parcel of land an asset of community value, it most likely will deter external investment into building on it. It's bad enough that you've got to encourage someone to buy a football club that won't show a return on its own. Let along invite in all sorts of covenants around building on the land.

A fan ownership model under any guise, has to be based on bringing in another owner at some point. So in many respects the club will be in exactly the same position if owned by fans, as it is today. The only major advantage, is that supporters will negotiate from our perspective, as opposed form a quick buck, or corporate laden perspective.

I have said all along that I quite like the idea of fan ownership. But I'm under no illusions that unless they hit the ground running and attract significant investment early doors, they won't last five minutes. In fact, I would go so far as to suggest they will not enjoy the luxury of an honeymoon period at all. The Trusts current mantra is that anything has to be better than just sitting dead in the water going nowhere, with no information on the way forward. The moment they sit in that hot seat, they will need a serious TRANSPARENT plan on investment and the way forward. Most of the staff that they anticipate taking over haven't managed that in years.

The meeting at the Park Inn cannot be about what people think they know about the current situation. Like or not, results are not terrible. We have maintained league status, we as far as I am aware are solvent. Certainly the club is trading as solvent. In addition to that, but probably most importantly.. NOBODY actually knows the truth. The only issue is that none of us have a clue about the way forward for the club. And it appears that KT has no intention of developing a supporter inclusive culture. That's his choice. So the Trust have the rather daunting task of presenting examples of investment paths. As well as giving us an idea of where they believe they can improve things.

This as far as I'm aware, has never been done. We are not talking about saving a business from the brink of oblivion. We are not out shaking buckets. All of the staff are being paid. The club is competitive. Maybe not as competitive as we would like, but competitive. As far as I am aware, and I know a few of the staff, they are not unhappy with KT. There hasn't been any significant unrest from the main body of the support. So this is a relatively unique set of circumstances. It is an attractive option, but there is definitely unrest between the Trust and the club, or KT. We as supporters have to be sure that we are not part of that agenda. It has to be a stand alone proposition, that can attract support and investment through its own merit, and not because we don't like what we currently have. I am happy to listen to the invited guests. But I am equally aware that their situation shares no parallel with ours.

I am looking forward to something tangible. Something that is transparent. Like most supporters, I am very frustrated with false dawns and what seems to be a perpetual state of inertia at NTFC. But I am equally aware that this is not a recent advent, or indeed unique to us as a club. In fact lack of progress without significant investment appears to be the norm for nearly all lower league clubs.  
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