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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #25080 on: June 15, 2019, 11:35:46 am »

i would love to be able to do what they have done and so far got away with, but that would never happen. I would probably/most certainly be in jail serving 4-5 years but we know he and the others will get away with it
We all share your frustration, but it is important to recognise that the law grinds exceedingly slowly; even relatively straightforward matters can take 12 months or more to get to Crown Court. This matter is quite complex, and it is highly likely those responsible for the missing mllions will have gone to great lengths to try to cover up their tracks. I think the police will get to the bottom of it, charges will be brought and ultimately justice will be done.
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« Reply #25081 on: June 15, 2019, 15:45:58 pm »

My frustration, besides the police taking over 3 years to investigate the Bushey Boys, so far, is the fact that the Crown Prosecution Service (our taxes pay their wages) will not give a timescale on how long they are going to take before they make a decision!.................even an estimate of one month, 6 months, a year or 2 years+.

A similar timescale estimate from KT on the East Stand development is the least fans deserve!!!
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« Reply #25082 on: June 15, 2019, 16:46:14 pm »

My frustration, besides the police taking over 3 years to investigate the Bushey Boys, so far, is the fact that the Crown Prosecution Service (our taxes pay their wages) will not give a timescale on how long they are going to take before they make a decision!.................even an estimate of one month, 6 months, a year or 2 years+.

A similar timescale estimate from KT on the East Stand development is the least fans deserve!!!

The case hasn't been fully presented to the CPS yet.
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« Reply #25083 on: June 15, 2019, 20:47:49 pm »

Spot on Larry, the CPS cannot make any decisions until the Police present them with a case that they can consider. So no point complaining that the CPS dont give a timescale, not their fault.
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« Reply #25084 on: June 19, 2019, 12:15:32 pm »

Bury's winding up order, scheduled for today has been adjourned for six weeks.
Is their situation basically similar to ours?
Reliance on a single benefactor to provide up front funds from another outside source to maintain the day to day running of the club?
Theirs was great until that outside source dried up?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/18/bury-inside-story-financial-ruin-winding-up-petition-loans-car-park?CMP=share_btn_tw
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« Reply #25085 on: June 19, 2019, 13:36:20 pm »

Bury's winding up order, scheduled for today has been adjourned for six weeks.
Is their situation basically similar to ours?
Reliance on a single benefactor to provide up front funds from another outside source to maintain the day to day running of the club?
Theirs was great until that outside source dried up?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/18/bury-inside-story-financial-ruin-winding-up-petition-loans-car-park?CMP=share_btn_tw

Dale at Bury has continually blamed the previous owners for the financial mess they are in, whilst using his personal health problems to garnish sympathy!
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« Reply #25086 on: June 19, 2019, 15:24:30 pm »

Any news from KT after all he has the funds and is just waiting for NBC to sort the leases

Oh no wait they already done that 16 months ago

So how many of u are going to admit on here u were wrong about KT, just another DC in disguise, blaming NBC and not interested in medium or long term development of NTFC ?

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« Reply #25087 on: June 19, 2019, 16:55:11 pm »

Dale at Bury has continually blamed the previous owners for the financial mess they are in, whilst using his personal health problems to garnish sympathy!

Similar though! Out accounts for the previous year pointed to the reliance of outside investors to keep our heads above water....the ‘loans’ to our club are also made from shell companies based on the BVI, as is the case for Bury.

Let’s face it, if at any time Bower and Thomas call in the debt we are fooked, assuming they are not willing to sell the controlling interest for a fraction of their investment.

That said, theee is no sign of them doing that at present so nothing to worry about....eh?!
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« Reply #25088 on: June 19, 2019, 17:27:20 pm »

Similar though! Out accounts for the previous year pointed to the reliance of outside investors to keep our heads above water....the ‘loans’ to our club are also made from shell companies based on the BVI, as is the case for Bury.

Let’s face it, if at any time Bower and Thomas call in the debt we are fooked, assuming they are not willing to sell the controlling interest for a fraction of their investment.

That said, there is no sign of them doing that at present so nothing to worry about....eh?!

I thought so.
However, I would be surprised if most clubs within the Third, Fourth and National League divisions aren't in a similar position?
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« Reply #25089 on: June 19, 2019, 20:42:23 pm »

Any news from KT after all he has the funds and is just waiting for NBC to sort the leases

Oh no wait they already done that 16 months ago

So how many of u are going to admit on here u were wrong about KT, just another DC in disguise, blaming NBC and not interested in medium or long term development of NTFC ?


yeah he dc in disguise, he stepped in to save our club paid the players and staff and everyone else who was owed money and then jogged on with £10 mil. Get a grip
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« Reply #25090 on: June 19, 2019, 20:48:18 pm »

Any news from KT after all he has the funds and is just waiting for NBC to sort the leases

Oh no wait they already done that 16 months ago

So how many of u are going to admit on here u were wrong about KT, just another DC in disguise, blaming NBC and not interested in medium or long term development of NTFC ?


From very early in his tenure it became obvious to me that Thomas and Cardoza  were two cheeks of the same arse.. land land and more land!
But we mustn't cause division within the support base with those who believed he was the great white hope as they rallied at his nonsensical overhead projector indoctrination's.
He himself admitted a year ago he was looking for a get out clause, so as a support base we need to be united and not fractured.
No one's wrong or right where the future of our clubs concerned, we can now all agree Thomas has been a failure in regards our clubs growth.
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« Reply #25091 on: June 19, 2019, 20:56:48 pm »

I thought so.
However, I would be surprised if most clubs within the Third, Fourth and National League divisions aren't in a similar position?
There's  many different species within that spectrum,  some have little option but bounce along on the bones of there arses, others clubs have been belittled and sold cheaply and not allowed to maximise any potential... As seen at Sixfields these past 20 years.
Compare apples to apples.
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« Reply #25092 on: June 19, 2019, 21:07:15 pm »

yeah he dc in disguise, he stepped in to save our club paid the players and staff and everyone else who was owed money and then jogged on with £10 mil. Get a grip
Forget the 200k Thomas paid for tax bills and wages to take control. Talk to me about the 5 plus millions dumped into clubs accounts by Thomas and co, giving a full description of what value you are seeing for such a vast and toxic debt?
And do you believe for such a debt, monies, should they have really been spent, couldve been used in a more pro active manner such as building up our clubs infrastructure?
I can wait.
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« Reply #25093 on: June 19, 2019, 21:16:16 pm »

Forget the 200k Thomas paid for tax bills and wages to take control. Talk to me about the 5 plus millions dumped into clubs accounts by Thomas and co, giving a full description of what value you are seeing for such a vast and toxic debt?
And do you believe for such a debt, monies, should they have really been spent, couldve been used in a more pro active manner such as building up our clubs infrastructure?
I can wait.
thanks to kt we can still go support our club between august and may and how can he build the infrastructure when there is still legal matters concerning the east stand his hands are tied
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« Reply #25094 on: June 19, 2019, 21:25:53 pm »

I don't care about dc,(wank3r), he don't care about me,(what a c**t),all I care about is NTFC!
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« Reply #25095 on: June 19, 2019, 21:32:08 pm »

At the end of the day we all want this crap resolved and for a redevelopment to properly happen and we will all disagree on views but that's football unfortunately I'm just grateful that I have a club to support and then moan about on a Saturday
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« Reply #25096 on: June 19, 2019, 22:55:19 pm »

Similar though! Out accounts for the previous year pointed to the reliance of outside investors to keep our heads above water....the ‘loans’ to our club are also made from shell companies based on the BVI, as is the case for Bury.

Let’s face it, if at any time Bower and Thomas call in the debt we are fooked, assuming they are not willing to sell the controlling interest for a fraction of their investment.

That said, theee is no sign of them doing that at present so nothing to worry about....eh?!

Who they going to call it in against?  The club that is owned by them, would just go into immediate administration and they’d get virtually fcuk all in the pound and have no assets to collect against, if they could at all. 

The ground would still be there. A team of sorts would remain.

The club MIGHT currently be in a strangle hold, but by that fact, so are they.

I’m quite happy with the close seasons business on the pitch. After all, that’s what I care and pay for..
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« Reply #25097 on: June 20, 2019, 05:49:11 am »

Forget the 200k Thomas paid for tax bills and wages to take control. Talk to me about the 5 plus millions dumped into clubs accounts by Thomas and co, giving a full description of what value you are seeing for such a vast and toxic debt?
And do you believe for such a debt, monies, should they have really been spent, couldve been used in a more pro active manner such as building up our clubs infrastructure?
I can wait.
FFS I can’t stand by and listen to this sh1t any longer. What the fcuk are you talking about “toxic debt”? One of my companies owes me about 1.5 million. If I called that in then all that would happen is a large echo back from the hills and fcuk all else. I could take the money out of the profits (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). I could decide to sell the assets (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). Or I could sell the company to the highest bidder and pocket the cash (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). So in other words a business being in debt to the owner means absolutely Jack Sh1t. I’ll tell you when debt does matter. Let’s just suppose you own a division 2 club and you hypothetically decide to blow a few million on a new stand. Now let’s suppose you decide to borrow the money from the banks (good luck with that), outside investors, local businesses and/or well wishers. Now if they at any point decided to call in the debt you would be proper fcuked, with a fire sale of your best players, assets, a reduction in staff and services and all that goes with it. Still thankfully we’re fairly safe as a only a completely incompetent cretin would suggest that? Jesus, months on and still the same bollocks?
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« Reply #25098 on: June 20, 2019, 08:30:22 am »

FFS I can’t stand by and listen to this sh1t any longer. What the fcuk are you talking about “toxic debt”? One of my companies owes me about 1.5 million. If I called that in then all that would happen is a large echo back from the hills and fcuk all else. I could take the money out of the profits (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). I could decide to sell the assets (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). Or I could sell the company to the highest bidder and pocket the cash (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). So in other words a business being in debt to the owner means absolutely Jack Sh1t. I’ll tell you when debt does matter. Let’s just suppose you own a division 2 club and you hypothetically decide to blow a few million on a new stand. Now let’s suppose you decide to borrow the money from the banks (good luck with that), outside investors, local businesses and/or well wishers. Now if they at any point decided to call in the debt you would be proper fcuked, with a fire sale of your best players, assets, a reduction in staff and services and all that goes with it. Still thankfully we’re fairly safe as a only a completely incompetent cretin would suggest that? Jesus, months on and still the same bollocks?

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« Reply #25099 on: June 20, 2019, 09:10:34 am »

Welcome back, mate.  Grin
Didn’t think it through Raul, it was twice as frustrating reading some of the sh1t on here whilst gagging yourself at the same time. All be it the same sh1t from the usual suspects.
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