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« Reply #25500 on: August 30, 2019, 00:50:38 am »

How can it be 'very possible' and 'a fact'? Huh?
Is it not a fact he possibly may mean that it’s a fact that it was possible?
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« Reply #25501 on: August 30, 2019, 01:05:36 am »

Which argument was I losing Random? You have one agenda which is solely to slate KT and the board every chance you get. If the facts dont suit you, you just make it up.
I was never a big fan of KT ,but the more people like you keep coming out with your poison the more I will support KT. My biggest concern is people like you get involved in ownership of the Club. You are the living proof that fan ownership is a misguided folly.
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« Reply #25502 on: August 30, 2019, 06:29:34 am »

That is totally NOT a fact.

Perhaps not a fact but certainly a very high probability.
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« Reply #25503 on: August 30, 2019, 07:38:09 am »

I am certainly no apologist for KT and think he has a number of faults but people have very short memories .
If it wasn’t for him and his associates it is very possible we would have gone well before Bury .
That is a fact .
No it's not, that would've never happened,  thats a fact.
There wouldve been a dozen other Thomas and co's waiting to pick up where Cardoza left off.
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« Reply #25504 on: August 30, 2019, 08:15:22 am »

You can always rely on the C&E to provide a “soft” platform for KT to air his views.  BBC Northampton is no different.  Yesterday’s article is not unexpected post Bury. After many months of silence from the Chairman its purpose is to remind us all we should be eternally grateful to him for riding into town 4 years ago and rescuing the club from oblivion.  KT has dined out on that one for quite long enough.  Let’s move on and get back to proper scrutiny of KT's stewardship of the club.

On the redevelopment/East Stand situation the article was a masterclass once more in obfuscation from KT.  Cutting through he usual Thomas smokescreen the message is that once more progress depends on the Council viz: “…… we need some help along the way from the council”.  What that help is he naturally sheds no light on. But the Council have made it clear that there is nothing at all to stop our owners proceeding to complete the East Stand.  As for help from the Council, it wrote off £10.25 million of debt owing from NTFC in 2015 on the understanding that Ventures with £4million of liquid funds would finish the stand.  Our owners have failed to keep their part of the bargain and now they want more porridge.  But unlike Oliver they are not starving. 

On 30 April 2018 KT in an “interview” from the Sixfields Studios laid into the Council over the continuing delay over resolution of the boundary issues behind the East Stand.  He claimed “lack of communication from the Council”, that he (i.e. the club) was being “treated harshly by the Council” that it was “agreed that the Council needs to regularise” the leases.  Remember KT told supporters that correcting the lease situation was the only thing holding up the redevelopment progressing. On 13 June 2018 the NBC Cabinet approved the legal document that would have removed CDNL from having any leasehold interest on the land from the immediate back of the East Stand to the middle of the athletic track.  CDNL (KT/DB) have failed to sign that document.  Why we should ask.  In yesterday’s article KT had the effrontery to say in the context of the land behind the East Stand and well over 14 months since the legal document was sent to his lawyers for signature “We are trying to get that done, but we do need some urgency on it because we want to make sure we are in the position to move on and get that stand built”.  KT has moved the goalposts.

As always with anything KT says there is a lot of froth and very little substance.  KT continues to kick the redevelopment can down the road and will continue to do so with the help of an uncritical and willing local media and a complacent supporter base until he gets what he wants from the Council.  He may succeed but whether it is for the benefit of NTFC and its supporters or for the benefit of CDNL and its owners is the burning issue.  That both supporters and our owners will be happy when we reach the end of this saga I doubt very much.
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« Reply #25505 on: August 30, 2019, 08:32:55 am »

No it's not, that would've never happened,  thats a fact.
There wouldve been a dozen other Thomas and co's waiting to pick up where Cardoza left off.
Cloud cuckoo land again Beds!

Simple question where are your FACTS that back up your statement that there were 'A DOZEN' waiting to step in?

I won't hold my breath!!!!
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« Reply #25506 on: August 30, 2019, 08:38:31 am »

Unfortuneately I do not live in Northampton but have local fans been in touch with Ward Councillors and local MP's to get a statement about what the Council have done and told KT to do?....ie; what do they understand is the current situation concerning the future of the East Stand development?
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« Reply #25507 on: August 30, 2019, 08:53:44 am »

BBS - try reading my post above today! It represents the latest known position.
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« Reply #25508 on: August 30, 2019, 09:35:18 am »

You can always rely on the C&E to provide a “soft” platform for KT to air his views.  BBC Northampton is no different.  Yesterday’s article is not unexpected post Bury. After many months of silence from the Chairman its purpose is to remind us all we should be eternally grateful to him for riding into town 4 years ago and rescuing the club from oblivion.  KT has dined out on that one for quite long enough.........etc etc etc

Hope you know a first class Barrister as you appear to have an unforgiving agenda on KT.

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« Reply #25509 on: August 30, 2019, 09:57:17 am »

Hope you know a first class Barrister as you appear to have an unforgiving agenda on KT.


Why are you obsessed with barristers, lawyers and litigation?
You don’t have a clue, do you?
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« Reply #25510 on: August 30, 2019, 10:03:09 am »

Cloud cuckoo land again Beds!

Simple question where are your FACTS that back up your statement that there were 'A DOZEN' waiting to step in?

I won't hold my breath!!!!
There were other options I know that for sure.
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« Reply #25511 on: August 30, 2019, 10:14:50 am »

You can always rely on the C&E to provide a “soft” platform for KT to air his views.  BBC Northampton is no different.  Yesterday’s article is not unexpected post Bury. After many months of silence from the Chairman its purpose is to remind us all we should be eternally grateful to him for riding into town 4 years ago and rescuing the club from oblivion.  KT has dined out on that one for quite long enough.  Let’s move on and get back to proper scrutiny of KT's stewardship of the club.

On the redevelopment/East Stand situation the article was a masterclass once more in obfuscation from KT.  Cutting through he usual Thomas smokescreen the message is that once more progress depends on the Council viz: “…… we need some help along the way from the council”.  What that help is he naturally sheds no light on. But the Council have made it clear that there is nothing at all to stop our owners proceeding to complete the East Stand.  As for help from the Council, it wrote off £10.25 million of debt owing from NTFC in 2015 on the understanding that Ventures with £4million of liquid funds would finish the stand.  Our owners have failed to keep their part of the bargain and now they want more porridge.  But unlike Oliver they are not starving. 

On 30 April 2018 KT in an “interview” from the Sixfields Studios laid into the Council over the continuing delay over resolution of the boundary issues behind the East Stand.  He claimed “lack of communication from the Council”, that he (i.e. the club) was being “treated harshly by the Council” that it was “agreed that the Council needs to regularise” the leases.  Remember KT told supporters that correcting the lease situation was the only thing holding up the redevelopment progressing. On 13 June 2018 the NBC Cabinet approved the legal document that would have removed CDNL from having any leasehold interest on the land from the immediate back of the East Stand to the middle of the athletic track.  CDNL (KT/DB) have failed to sign that document.  Why we should ask.  In yesterday’s article KT had the effrontery to say in the context of the land behind the East Stand and well over 14 months since the legal document was sent to his lawyers for signature “We are trying to get that done, but we do need some urgency on it because we want to make sure we are in the position to move on and get that stand built”.  KT has moved the goalposts.

As always with anything KT says there is a lot of froth and very little substance.  KT continues to kick the redevelopment can down the road and will continue to do so with the help of an uncritical and willing local media and a complacent supporter base until he gets what he wants from the Council.  He may succeed but whether it is for the benefit of NTFC and its supporters or for the benefit of CDNL and its owners is the burning issue.  That both supporters and our owners will be happy when we reach the end of this saga I doubt very much.

Good post, Vintage. And this highlights the problem with those on here who are always willing to jump to KT's defense. The truth is freely available to anyone willing to do a little digging and actually look at the facts. Thomas wants a 'little help from NBC': read as, Thomas wants to wrap up a deal involving thirty-plus acres of land (covered by the CDNL leases), before he is willing to fulfill his initial commitments. The council has already been bent over and shafted by them once, so why would NBC trust this group now?
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« Reply #25512 on: August 30, 2019, 10:19:52 am »

Unfortuneately I do not live in Northampton but have local fans been in touch with Ward Councillors and local MP's to get a statement about what the Council have done and told KT to do?....ie; what do they understand is the current situation concerning the future of the East Stand development?

Yes. I suggest you read Vintage's post above. He lays out the facts perfectly. It was only a couple of months back when the council held an open meeting at Kingsley Park Club, and the situation at NTFC was laid out for supporters.
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« Reply #25513 on: August 30, 2019, 10:21:06 am »

Hope you know a first class Barrister as you appear to have an unforgiving agenda on KT.



This statement shows just how clueless you really are. Grin
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« Reply #25514 on: August 30, 2019, 10:22:11 am »

Cloud cuckoo land again Beds!

Simple question where are your FACTS that back up your statement that there were 'A DOZEN' waiting to step in?

I won't hold my breath!!!!
I believe Thomas himself claimed they were lucky to get the club, when and how they did.
We were very unfortunate it was them that got it.
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« Reply #25515 on: August 30, 2019, 10:22:19 am »

Why are you obsessed with barristers, lawyers and litigation?
You don’t have a clue, do you?

 
You of all people should know.  A brief look at some comments on here referring to the chairman seem a little unwise! There is also some potential in some comments to bring  the site into disrepute?
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« Reply #25516 on: August 30, 2019, 10:24:23 am »


 There is also some potential in some comments to bring  the site into disrepute?

Mostly by you picking fights and squabbling with people!
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« Reply #25517 on: August 30, 2019, 10:43:40 am »

Mostly by you picking fights and squabbling with people!

Have no argument with you at all - you seem very keen to engage in an argument yourself.  Sorry cannot respond in similar fashion!
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« Reply #25518 on: August 30, 2019, 11:02:38 am »

Good post, Vintage. And this highlights the problem with those on here who are always willing to jump to KT's defense. The truth is freely available to anyone willing to do a little digging and actually look at the facts. Thomas wants a 'little help from NBC': read as, Thomas wants to wrap up a deal involving thirty-plus acres of land (covered by the CDNL leases), before he is willing to fulfill his initial commitments. The council has already been bent over and shafted by them once, so why would NBC trust this group now?

30+ acres of land?  Shocked  Didn't realise it was that amount...
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« Reply #25519 on: August 30, 2019, 11:14:09 am »

30+ acres of land?  Shocked  Didn't realise it was that amount...
There's money in them there hills.
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