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« Reply #25960 on: November 30, 2019, 16:57:15 pm »

I fail to see why you think we are able to progress. We are and always will be a yo-yo club until such time as a sugar daddy comes along. It's not the fault of owners, fans or the size of the ground. The place you have to look for the blame is the EFL, the money required to prgoress above league one is astronimical. And don't give me your plucked from the árse figures about a club that can grow and sustain itself because you have constantly had you figures shot down in flames. The sooner you come to accept our lot in life the happier you will be and more comfortable sitting in the stand rather than stood on the hill.


What are you talking about? It is brilliant up on the hill.  The sooner you come to accept our lot in life the happier you will be.
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« Reply #25961 on: November 30, 2019, 17:10:36 pm »

I fail to see why you think we are able to progress. We are and always will be a yo-yo club until such time as a sugar daddy comes along. It's not the fault of owners, fans or the size of the ground. The place you have to look for the blame is the EFL, the money required to prgoress above league one is astronimical. And don't give me your plucked from the árse figures about a club that can grow and sustain itself because you have constantly had you figures shot down in flames. The sooner you come to accept our lot in life the happier you will be and more comfortable sitting in the stand rather than stood on the hill.
Sorry Sing, I've only read the first line of your reply to warrant a reply,  The Cardoza/Thomas era, will drag our club to the depths of the football league,  they dont want assistance in helping build up our infrastructure to allow progress,  they just want/ wanted land land and more land.
 Also to gave us the tag of yo yo club! That is disrespectful to a yo yo, as they come back up regularly, we dont!
 Sixfields in its antiquated run down non league
state, without modern infrastructure doesn't allow this!
Let's go back and see what else you wrote...
So you reckon the football league is responsible for our clubs inability to attract a couple more % of it catchment to allow it compete at a higher level?
Mate, seriouslyyour devotion to Cardoza/Thomas is making you look silly..
Time to take some time out me duck, these are not what our club need.
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« Reply #25962 on: November 30, 2019, 17:37:41 pm »

Sorry Sing, I've only read the first line of your reply to warrant a reply,  The Cardoza/Thomas era, will drag our club to the depths of the football league,  they dont want assistance in helping build up our infrastructure to allow progress,  they just want/ wanted land land and more land.
 Also to gave us the tag of yo yo club! That is disrespectful to a yo yo, as they come back up regularly, we dont!
 Sixfields in its antiquated run down non league
state, without modern infrastructure doesn't allow this!
Let's go back and see what else you wrote...
So you reckon the football league is responsible for our clubs inability to attract a couple more % of it catchment to allow it compete at a higher level?
Mate, seriouslyyour devotion to Cardoza/Thomas is making you look silly..
Time to take some time out me duck, these are not what our club need.


Sorry Sing, I've only read the first line of your reply to warrant a reply,  The Cardoza/Thomas era, will drag our club to the depths of the football league(exactly where do you think we are at the mintue?,  they dont want assistance(can you please show where you get this from) in helping build up our infrastructure to allow progress,  they just want/ wanted land land and more land.
 Also to gave us the tag of yo yo club! That is disrespectful to a yo yo, as they come back up regularly, we dont!(when have we not come back? We yo-yo between league one and league two, this is our lot in life)
 Sixfields in its antiquated run down non league
state(did you ever go to the county ground?), without modern infrastructure doesn't allow this!(tell this to Bournemouth. Oh! they have a sugar daddy)
Let's go back and see what else you wrote...
So you reckon the football league is responsible for our clubs inability to attract a couple more % of it catchment to allow it compete at a higher level?(Please read again, that is not what I said)
Mate, seriouslyyour devotion to Cardoza/Thomas is making you look silly..(Since when have I declared such a thing)
Time to take some time out me duck, these are not what our club need(No, it is you who needs to manage your expectations until such time as a sugar daddy comes along)

So as usual you have replied pretty much to nothing that I wrote and have spouted your usual bóllocks.
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« Reply #25963 on: November 30, 2019, 17:42:03 pm »

Sorry Sing, I've only read the first line of your reply to warrant a reply,  The Cardoza/Thomas era, will drag our club to the depths of the football league(exactly where do you think we are at the mintue?,  they dont want assistance(can you please show where you get this from) in helping build up our infrastructure to allow progress,  they just want/ wanted land land and more land.
 Also to gave us the tag of yo yo club! That is disrespectful to a yo yo, as they come back up regularly, we dont!(when have we not come back? We yo-yo between league one and league two, this is our lot in life)
 Sixfields in its antiquated run down non league
state(did you ever go to the county ground?), without modern infrastructure doesn't allow this!(tell this to Bournemouth. Oh! they have a sugar daddy)
Let's go back and see what else you wrote...
So you reckon the football league is responsible for our clubs inability to attract a couple more % of it catchment to allow it compete at a higher level?(Please read again, that is not what I said)
Mate, seriouslyyour devotion to Cardoza/Thomas is making you look silly..(Since when have I declared such a thing)
Time to take some time out me duck, these are not what our club need(No, it is you who needs to manage your expectations until such time as a sugar daddy comes along)

So as usual you have replied pretty much to nothing that I wrote and have spouted your usual bóllocks.
You sound like a wait and see cardozite, that couldn't face the truth when proved so wrong.. Got selfies?...perhaps?
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« Reply #25964 on: November 30, 2019, 17:47:02 pm »

You sound like a wait and see cardozite, that couldn't face the truth when proved so wrong.. Got selfies?...perhaps?

Seriously mate, you need to keep taking your meds.
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« Reply #25965 on: November 30, 2019, 21:14:58 pm »

Sorry Sing, I've only read the first line of your reply to warrant a reply,  The Cardoza/Thomas era, will drag our club to the depths of the football league(exactly where do you think we are at the mintue?,  they dont want assistance(can you please show where you get this from) in helping build up our infrastructure to allow progress,  they just want/ wanted land land and more land.
 Also to gave us the tag of yo yo club! That is disrespectful to a yo yo, as they come back up regularly, we dont!(when have we not come back? We yo-yo between league one and league two, this is our lot in life)
 Sixfields in its antiquated run down non league
state(did you ever go to the county ground?), without modern infrastructure doesn't allow this!(tell this to Bournemouth. Oh! they have a sugar daddy)
Let's go back and see what else you wrote...
So you reckon the football league is responsible for our clubs inability to attract a couple more % of it catchment to allow it compete at a higher level?(Please read again, that is not what I said)
Mate, seriouslyyour devotion to Cardoza/Thomas is making you look silly..(Since when have I declared such a thing)
Time to take some time out me duck, these are not what our club need(No, it is you who needs to manage your expectations until such time as a sugar daddy comes along)

So as usual you have replied pretty much to nothing that I wrote and have spouted your usual bóllocks.
The moment you wrote sugar daddy... affirmed you dont have scooby doo as to what our club need!
I would rather the full backing of Northamptons public and its business community to see the club gradually grow than shiek yourmoney or a london based landgrabbing spivs at our club.....
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« Reply #25966 on: November 30, 2019, 22:11:22 pm »

The moment you wrote sugar daddy... affirmed you dont have scooby doo as to what our club need!
I would rather the full backing of Northamptons public and its business community to see the club gradually grow than shiek yourmoney or a london based landgrabbing spivs at our club.....

I'm sorry me duck, but it's you who is delusional to think that anyone outside the current fan base gives a flying fúck about the Cobblers. This was very obvious when the objections started coming in about the building of Sixfields. No local businessman in his right mind would put money into the club.
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« Reply #25967 on: November 30, 2019, 23:53:55 pm »

I'm sorry me duck, but it's you who is delusional to think that anyone outside the current fan base gives a flying fúck about the Cobblers. This was very obvious when the objections started coming in about the building of Sixfields. No local businessman in his right mind would put money into the club.
The current fan base that is less than half what it should be, and that is down  to your mates Cardoza/Thomas..
Are you the proud owner of a double selfie?
You've backed the wrong horse, no shame, get back on side for the sake of the football club of Northampton.
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« Reply #25968 on: December 01, 2019, 10:52:12 am »

The current fan base that is less than half what it should be, and that is down  to your mates Cardoza/Thomas..
Are you the proud owner of a double selfie?
You've backed the wrong horse, no shame, get back on side for the sake of the football club of Northampton.

You really do live in cloud cuckoo land. The fan base is what it is. Do you remember the days of the County ground where 2,000 was a good crowd?
The fan base will only increase with a rise up the ranks when we find a sugar daddy.
As I have asked you before, please show me where I backed Cardoza/Thaomas. I had long conversations with a prominent member of this message board about the misgivings over Cardoza long before anything came to light.
As for being onside for the sake of the club, You should crawl back into the woodwork becasue if we use your business model the club will cease to exist in two years.
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« Reply #25969 on: December 01, 2019, 13:03:48 pm »

You really do live in cloud cuckoo land. The fan base is what it is. Do you remember the days of the County ground where 2,000 was a good crowd?
The fan base will only increase with a rise up the ranks when we find a sugar daddy.
As I have asked you before, please show me where I backed Cardoza/Thaomas. I had long conversations with a prominent member of this message board about the misgivings over Cardoza long before anything came to light.
As for being onside for the sake of the club, You should crawl back into the woodwork becasue if we use your business model the club will cease to exist in two years.

You have no need to justify your thoughts. Anybody that disagrees with them is automatically labelled as a Thomas or Cardozo supporter. It is a smokescreen to throw us off their trail. For any of us that have the audacity to ask salient questions of them. There is very small group of our support, who have managed to create what is effectively a mutual appreciation society. Any attempt to permeate their blinkered view, is met with false accusations and arrogance. You are better off leaving them to themselves in their pseudo world of fantasy football club ownership.
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« Reply #25970 on: December 02, 2019, 06:26:23 am »

You have no need to justify your thoughts. Anybody that disagrees with them is automatically labelled as a Thomas or Cardozo supporter. It is a smokescreen to throw us off their trail. For any of us that have the audacity to ask salient questions of them. There is very small group of our support, who have managed to create what is effectively a mutual appreciation society. Any attempt to permeate their blinkered view, is met with false accusations and arrogance. You are better off leaving them to themselves in their pseudo world of fantasy football club ownership.
You've made it quite clear you dont give 2 flying ones for the clubs infrastructure and happy to see struggle to stay afloat unable to trade in L1,  why you want this, I've no idea, but your anti progress stance, shows you have an agenda, albeit a strange one?
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« Reply #25971 on: December 02, 2019, 12:01:54 pm »

You've made it quite clear you dont give 2 flying ones for the clubs infrastructure and happy to see struggle to stay afloat unable to trade in L1,  why you want this, I've no idea, but your anti progress stance, shows you have an agenda, albeit a strange one?

Your agenda seems to be that as soon as KT is gone thousands of extra fans will stream through the turnstiles, buying copious amounts of tea, coffee, programmes and pie in the sky. All this extra income will then propel us into the Championship by christmas!
I would love to see the club progress too, but I know what we are and have been for most of the 40 odd years I've been watching the Cobblers, a small club in League 2. It's going to take more than an increase in refreshment sales to change that.
Whether there is a change or not I'll still be a fan, who owns the club has never really bothered me.

As for Sixfields, yes it's too small and has it's limitations but we shouldn't forget where we came from, The County Ground, probably the worst football ground in the top 8-10 divisions in English football, Sixfields was a massive improvement!
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« Reply #25972 on: December 02, 2019, 12:15:42 pm »

Your agenda seems to be that as soon as KT is gone thousands of extra fans will stream through the turnstiles, buying copious amounts of tea, coffee, programmes and pie in the sky. All this extra income will then propel us into the Championship by christmas!
I would love to see the club progress too, but I know what we are and have been for most of the 40 odd years I've been watching the Cobblers, a small club in League 2. It's going to take more than an increase in refreshment sales to change that.
Whether there is a change or not I'll still be a fan, who owns the club has never really bothered me.

As for Sixfields, yes it's too small and has it's limitations but we shouldn't forget where we came from, The County Ground, probably the worst football ground in the top 8-10 divisions in English football, Sixfields was a massive improvement!

Well said that man.
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« Reply #25973 on: December 02, 2019, 15:53:52 pm »

Your agenda seems to be that as soon as KT is gone thousands of extra fans will stream through the turnstiles, buying copious amounts of tea, coffee, programmes and pie in the sky. All this extra income will then propel us into the Championship by christmas!
I would love to see the club progress too, but I know what we are and have been for most of the 40 odd years I've been watching the Cobblers, a small club in League 2. It's going to take more than an increase in refreshment sales to change that.
Whether there is a change or not I'll still be a fan, who owns the club has never really bothered me.

As for Sixfields, yes it's too small and has it's limitations but we shouldn't forget where we came from, The County Ground, probably the worst football ground in the top 8-10 divisions in English football, Sixfields was a massive improvement!
For the past 20 years football has gone through a renaissance where its popularity has grown to new heights,  ALL clubs in the football league have tried to embrace this by some expansion and modernisation,  that is all except one!  Who ever could that be?
I'll give you a clue, they have been run constantly by outsider speculators who are there for profiting from the land the ground stands on!
Have you worked it out yet?
It's none other than Cardoza/Thomas's version of what they think is best for Northampton town....which is allowing its supporters to live in hope that some veiled suggestion that some unconditional progress will happen and we'll live happily ever after, this despite building £15,000,000 of debt without seeing any real improvement... Or have I got that wrong also? Please correct if this isnt true.
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« Reply #25974 on: December 02, 2019, 16:58:12 pm »

I'm just going to put this here. http://faninsights.co.uk/fan-engagement-index/

I know some people aren't keen on having to read through actual facts and figures with a methodology behind them more involved than reaching into one's arse and plucking out a few numbers, so to save them time Northampton Town are rated 24th out of 92 and are one of only 8 clubs that have all three types of face-to-face dialogues between club and fans in place that are focused on in the study.
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« Reply #25975 on: December 02, 2019, 17:05:08 pm »

For the past 20 years football has gone through a renaissance where its popularity has grown to new heights,  ALL clubs in the football league have tried to embrace this by some expansion and modernisation,  that is all except one!  Who ever could that be?
I'll give you a clue, they have been run constantly by outsider speculators who are there for profiting from the land the ground stands on!
Have you worked it out yet?
It's none other than Cardoza/Thomas's version of what they think is best for Northampton town....which is allowing its supporters to live in hope that some veiled suggestion that some unconditional progress will happen and we'll live happily ever after, this despite building £15,000,000 of debt without seeing any real improvement... Or have I got that wrong also? Please correct if this isnt true.

Calm down, Calm down!!I didn't realise that Cardoza and Thomas are working together!
Cardoza was a crook who, ironically, would have made himself more money out of the Sixfields land if he had acted honestly. KT has stated privately and publicly that all proceeds from the land will go to the club, we'll wait and see. My opinion is that the ground doesn't desperately need expansion while we are in league 2 but does for us to move higher. I understand your model of a gradual growth of support and income to keep the club ticking over but think we need a kick start to progress. Not all outside investment is bad, look at Leicester. Some of your rants make it sound like you're Cardoza's angry mate who never got his cut!
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« Reply #25976 on: December 02, 2019, 17:41:08 pm »

Calm down, Calm down!!I didn't realise that Cardoza and Thomas are working together!
Cardoza was a crook who, ironically, would have made himself more money out of the Sixfields land if he had acted honestly. KT has stated privately and publicly that all proceeds from the land will go to the club, we'll wait and see. My opinion is that the ground doesn't desperately need expansion while we are in league 2 but does for us to move higher. I understand your model of a gradual growth of support and income to keep the club ticking over but think we need a kick start to progress. Not all outside investment is bad, look at Leicester. Some of your rants make it sound like you're Cardoza's angry mate who never got his cut!
Cardozas angry mate... that's an interesting concept, maybe your onto to something EB.
All proceeds from the land going to the club. Do we know yet precisely which land he is referring to?
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« Reply #25977 on: December 02, 2019, 18:10:36 pm »

For the past 20 years football has gone through a renaissance where its popularity has grown to new heights,  ALL clubs in the football league have tried to embrace this by some expansion and modernisation,  that is all except one!  Who ever could that be?
I'll give you a clue, they have been run constantly by outsider speculators who are there for profiting from the land the ground stands on!
Have you worked it out yet?
It's none other than Cardoza/Thomas's version of what they think is best for Northampton town....which is allowing its supporters to live in hope that some veiled suggestion that some unconditional progress will happen and we'll live happily ever after, this despite building £15,000,000 of debt without seeing any real improvement... Or have I got that wrong also? Please correct if this isnt true.

Let's ask Bury's fans whether they agree with you?
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« Reply #25978 on: December 02, 2019, 18:59:21 pm »

Let's ask Bury's fans whether they agree with you?
Outsider speculators at Bury...... next
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« Reply #25979 on: December 02, 2019, 19:33:28 pm »

Outsider speculators at Bury...... next
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Ok, bad choice of club on my part, but I was actually referring to the development of their club and facilities. They remained firmly in the dark ages in terms of facilities.

There are plenty of others too, all of which would like to have more but won't go anywhere.

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