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« Reply #29520 on: October 08, 2021, 16:39:10 pm »

Excellent post Deepcut, Random certainly has some nerve berating people for not reply to questions, when he is the master at avoiding any response to questions posed to him.
As for contributing monies to any scheme for ground improvements , in theory yes, i would be quite willing to, but, not so willing to when people like Random are any way involved.
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« Reply #29521 on: October 08, 2021, 17:06:22 pm »

Is that because of the policies or the personality DC?

As I have expressed a number of times before, I do not have an issue with the intent of The Trust, but I do/have had an issue with the method and the quality of that intent/method.
However that would not necessarily prevent me from being encouraged to contribute to a project.
Regarding the particular individual 'personality', my previous statement is specific.
This is in my opinion, in case anyone attempts to relate it to my role as a Moderator.
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« Reply #29522 on: October 08, 2021, 17:30:38 pm »

I'm not adverse to anything that gets the ball rolling. But it would need to have the Trust and the club in principle agreement. Otherwise they will create another side show, that will detract from the intended purpose.
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« Reply #29523 on: October 08, 2021, 17:56:23 pm »

As I have expressed a number of times before, I do not have an issue with the intent of The Trust, but I do/have had an issue with the method and the quality of that intent/method.
However that would not necessarily prevent me from being encouraged to contribute to a project.
Regarding the particular individual 'personality', my previous statement is specific.
This is in my opinion, in case anyone attempts to relate it to my role as a Moderator.

Have you ever been tempted to get involved with the club/trust on any level DC? Thatís assuming you havenít been involved to date obviously.
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« Reply #29524 on: October 08, 2021, 18:35:27 pm »

As I have expressed a number of times before, I do not have an issue with the intent of The Trust, but I do/have had an issue with the method and the quality of that intent/method.
However that would not necessarily prevent me from being encouraged to contribute to a project.
Regarding the particular individual 'personality', my previous statement is specific.
This is in my opinion, in case anyone attempts to relate it to my role as a Moderator.

I was curious, that's all DC.
Knowing no one else personally on this message board (I don't think) I can only judge a person with a presence here by what they write and how they write it, and I wouldn't say Randoms online personality is any more abrasive than the typical HE poster.
I no doubt differ from most though in not knowing the faces of anyone behind the masks worn on this forum.

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« Reply #29525 on: October 08, 2021, 20:49:50 pm »

Are you lot still flogging this stiff nag? There ain't no redev. Never will be. The equine has bolted. The current incumbents haven't even put in a planning application. Their crazy plans won't get past WNC. Why should they? Eventually they will slither away (tails between legs) and there will be a Phoenix. Most probably not even at sickfields.
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« Reply #29526 on: October 08, 2021, 23:43:55 pm »

Awesome post Thanks Steve

Anyone notice some of the prominent posters are here NOT answering my question

Manwork, Singcobb, Hammy, Deepcut, Carton, Whitedogdo, Everbrite, Teachers pet, Coolcat, Steve Massey and all you others, in principle, would you contribute a small monthly amount to go towards an infrastructure project?


If you can't be bothered to read my response don't ask the fķcking question.
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« Reply #29527 on: October 09, 2021, 09:47:32 am »

They donít need to submit planning for the stand as it already has it from DC times. The more learned amongst us could tell me how long approved planning is valid for?
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« Reply #29528 on: October 09, 2021, 10:29:58 am »

They donít need to submit planning for the stand as it already has it from DC times. The more learned amongst us could tell me how long approved planning is valid for?

3 years.
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« Reply #29529 on: October 09, 2021, 11:24:30 am »

I have the utmost respect for all members of the Trust especially those who put many hours and dedication into essentially trying their best to protect our beloved club.

As an outsider, Ive read the many well written pages and paragraphs from either the main players or those closely connected and I assume from the content professional people with lots of experience. It has also been discussed at length the possibility of a Trust or fans run club, and if we are to believe others were indeed  "waiting in the wings" to take over the club then certainly they must be of some wealth, influence or at least capable businessmen?

For me personally, there could not be a better statement of intent than the building of a Trust or fans stand. Incorporated within this stand the Trust administration and meeting rooms, a true home and focal point to be proud of which would in turn generate valuable income for the club.

If within the Trust and associates there is not the wherewithal to raise £2-3m for such an exciting and palpable community construction project, I doubt they could support the club itself?

Pick a big project and pull it off. You don't know until you try.

 
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« Reply #29530 on: October 09, 2021, 12:07:28 pm »

Thanks for the support Guys, it really is appreciated.

Obviously I have hit a nerve with some of my 'foes' which I think says more about them as NTFC fans than it does me

It's not about me or the Trust, its about NTFC and moving forward.

Obviously some of those have a hidden agenda. My argument all along is why would you not want a better experience supporting your club than we currently, sorry I just don't understand.

I suggest us ALL doing something together ie: making the stadium / facilities better (I mean our owners have no intention of doing so) and you get abuse like that from a moderator of this board.

Deepcut does the fact you don't live in Northampton and don't go to many games have any bearing on your attitude??? or is it that you are in the pockets of the owners?

 Because as a Cobblers fan I cannot believe how you would not support, in principle, the idea of fans raising funds to improve 'something' at our stadium.

Yes I get that the Trust have raised money before and you haven't seen anything much tangible although they have funded quite a few projects over the years, including £1000's to the Women's football team.



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« Reply #29531 on: October 09, 2021, 12:08:34 pm »

I did answer, I said yes if certain other numbers committed to a two year standing order.
Still, you crack on moaning about people not answering questions...
You're the master of that game 😆

Thanks, sorry I missed it, having been travelling at times and checking in on mobile, which sure you know isn't the best
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« Reply #29532 on: October 09, 2021, 12:11:29 pm »

Thanks for including me in your communication, I'm flattered   Kiss

The only problem is I lost interest in this subject a long time ago. I just find it very boring  Sad

No problem, you are and the 1000's of silent others are far more important to the future of NTFC than myself, Hammy, Deepcut and BOTN who are constantly on this thread.

If / When something gets of the ground, bearing in mind the Trust will now have strategic planning councillors at a meetings, I hope you will re-engage and get involved somehow, no matter how small. UTC
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« Reply #29533 on: October 09, 2021, 12:12:43 pm »

If you can't be bothered to read my response don't ask the fķcking question.

Sorry Singcobb I genuinely missed your reply. Can you remind me how much you pledged  Grin. Thanks
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« Reply #29534 on: October 09, 2021, 12:44:44 pm »

No problem, you are and the 1000's of silent others are far more important to the future of NTFC than myself, Hammy, Deepcut and BOTN who are constantly on this thread.

If / When something gets of the ground, bearing in mind the Trust will now have strategic planning councillors at a meetings, I hope you will re-engage and get involved somehow, no matter how small. UTC

I'll have you know I've supported the team for over 40 years and a good majority of those are as a season ticket holder. I have been a member of the Trust but not any more. So, over the years I have done my fair share for the club etc.

I also contribute to this forum on a regular basis but I'm fed up of this particular thread because it goes round and round in circles, same people moaning and getting nowhere.

I do want the stand to be finished and the ground to be improved but I'm tired of false dawns.

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« Reply #29535 on: October 09, 2021, 13:42:26 pm »

Thanks for the support Guys, it really is appreciated.

Obviously I have hit a nerve with some of my 'foes' which I think says more about them as NTFC fans than it does me

It's not about me or the Trust, its about NTFC and moving forward.

Obviously some of those have a hidden agenda. My argument all along is why would you not want a better experience supporting your club than we currently, sorry I just don't understand.

I suggest us ALL doing something together ie: making the stadium / facilities better (I mean our owners have no intention of doing so) and you get abuse like that from a moderator of this board.

Deepcut does the fact you don't live in Northampton and don't go to many games have any bearing on your attitude??? or is it that you are in the pockets of the owners?

 Because as a Cobblers fan I cannot believe how you would not support, in principle, the idea of fans raising funds to improve 'something' at our stadium.

Yes I get that the Trust have raised money before and you haven't seen anything much tangible although they have funded quite a few projects over the years, including £1000's to the Women's football team.

 Grin Grin I'm currently on The Trust bus about five miles from Hartlepool. Prior to the Pandemic I went two seasons without missing an away game, including mid-week games. All from my home 'living outside of Northampton'.
I have never met or even conversed with any of our owners, either current or previously.  Cool
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« Reply #29536 on: October 09, 2021, 14:13:31 pm »

Thanks for the support Guys, it really is appreciated.

Obviously I have hit a nerve with some of my 'foes' which I think says more about them as NTFC fans than it does me

It's not about me or the Trust, its about NTFC and moving forward.

Obviously some of those have a hidden agenda. My argument all along is why would you not want a better experience supporting your club than we currently, sorry I just don't understand.

I suggest us ALL doing something together ie: making the stadium / facilities better (I mean our owners have no intention of doing so) and you get abuse like that from a moderator of this board.

Deepcut does the fact you don't live in Northampton and don't go to many games have any bearing on your attitude??? or is it that you are in the pockets of the owners?

 Because as a Cobblers fan I cannot believe how you would not support, in principle, the idea of fans raising funds to improve 'something' at our stadium.

Yes I get that the Trust have raised money before and you haven't seen anything much tangible although they have funded quite a few projects over the years, including £1000's to the Women's football team.




Iím genuinely trying to be constructive when I say this but you simply have to stop picking fights with people who share a different point of view to you. It is counter productive and at best achieves nothing.  IMO the Trust board should be looking at bringing the supporters together not instigating division and conflict, especially with people such as Deepcut. You might not share his point of view, but he is widely respected by many on here and his opinion is always worth listening to. What would you rather, to be surrounded by like minded people or evaluate and draw conclusions from a wide range of perspectives. Someone once said suppressing discussion doesnít solve the problem, it is the problem.
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« Reply #29537 on: October 09, 2021, 15:56:48 pm »

Iím genuinely trying to be constructive when I say this but you simply have to stop picking fights with people who share a different point of view to you. It is counter productive and at best achieves nothing.  IMO the Trust board should be looking at bringing the supporters together not instigating division and conflict, especially with people such as Deepcut. You might not share his point of view, but he is widely respected by many on here and his opinion is always worth listening to. What would you rather, to be surrounded by like minded people or evaluate and draw conclusions from a wide range of perspectives. Someone once said suppressing discussion doesnít solve the problem, it is the problem.

Melly- Iím getting so frustrated with this - 100% agree but Iím no longer going to bother to justify my thoughts as too many people on here seem incapable of even acknowledging  any different point of view - but worst if you do then you are labelled in the owners pocket, antitrust or not wanting the best for the club- Iím convinced this is not the way forward and will no longer contribute to this thread - additionally I had given serious consideration in making a proposal to apply to join the trust board but on reflection working with intransigence from several individuals (on both sides) tells me this is not a situation where I can contribute in a meaningful manner.
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« Reply #29538 on: October 09, 2021, 16:50:53 pm »

Iím genuinely trying to be constructive when I say this but you simply have to stop picking fights with people who share a different point of view to you. It is counter productive and at best achieves nothing.  IMO the Trust board should be looking at bringing the supporters together not instigating division and conflict, especially with people such as Deepcut. You might not share his point of view, but he is widely respected by many on here and his opinion is always worth listening to. What would you rather, to be surrounded by like minded people or evaluate and draw conclusions from a wide range of perspectives. Someone once said suppressing discussion doesnít solve the problem, it is the problem.

 You did see his post that i was responding to above? I will remind you.....
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« Reply #29539 on: October 09, 2021, 16:51:28 pm »

I was not going to respond to your question but out of courtesy I will, something that you have a history of being reluctant to do yourself.
I assume that you are going to organise/manage this project in coordination with/of The Trust?
If so, I would not contribute a single penny of my hard earned salary and pension, either now or in the future, towards any organisation or group that has elected (or not, as the case may be) you as a Board member.

There you go, now WHO started it
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