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« Reply #30720 on: December 15, 2021, 08:50:51 am »

Some positive news about Sixfields capacity.... we wont need a Covid Passport to attend  Wink Grin

(Will for Swindon on New Year's day though)
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« Reply #30721 on: December 15, 2021, 09:20:37 am »

Is it not possible to generally be supportive of the chairman without loving him and be slightly critical of the Trust without hating them? There seems to be a tendency for extremes in this social media driven instantaneous world.

Generally I think we have a good chairman, he's not one to take us to the heights we all want but I'm not sure he has ever claimed to be. I feel he has at times hidden behind all the land issues, council delays etc when he could have progressed the club but equally many would have walked away from the mess they came into. I know he did to some extent when they officially put the club up for sale and sold in secret but they have also kept investing in the squad, topped up the staff's pay during covid, etc. I have contacted him personally on both the good and the bad and he has always replied and been gracious when I have met him in person. I haven't always agreed with him but can at least understand his position.

Generally I think we have a Trust who are passionate about the club and want the best for the future of the club and the fans but they have let passion boil over and become 'unprofessional' in some of their correspondence. I feel they have lost their way and have come up with lots of criticism without offering any solutions or being clear what it is they do want, "a stand finished to the highest standards" is very ambiguous. I must admit I haven't contacted the Trust directly and maybe that should be my next step as they may be doing thigs in private. Having said that I don't feel compelled to, and it is sad to see the replies the Trust get on Facebook, Twitter etc that are not positive. They seem to have made great strides both on here and with the tone of the communications but I think they need to do more to get back to truly representing the fan base. I've seen Trust members point to the membership numbers as proof they do... The Labour Party has more than twice the membership of the Conservative party but have had no power for 11 years

Happy Wednesday everyone

A very good post, and one that aligns very closely with my views.
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« Reply #30722 on: December 15, 2021, 10:06:11 am »

Is it not possible to generally be supportive of the chairman without loving him and be slightly critical of the Trust without hating them? There seems to be a tendency for extremes in this social media driven instantaneous world.

Also in complete agreement - of the entire fanbase the loudest and most persistent voices are in the minority and by virtue of their intransigence probably not right on what are undoubtably complex matters.
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« Reply #30723 on: December 15, 2021, 10:13:36 am »

Also in complete agreement - of the entire fanbase the loudest and most persistent voices are in the minority and by virtue of their intransigence probably not right on what are undoubtably complex matters.

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« Reply #30724 on: December 15, 2021, 10:16:40 am »

Some positive news about Sixfields capacity.... we wont need a Covid Passport to attend  Wink Grin

(Will for Swindon on New Year's day though)

Not sure how you arrive at that conclusion as home attendances have in some Matches exceeded 4000. Would not surprise me if Sat game exceeds well over 4000?
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« Reply #30725 on: December 15, 2021, 10:22:28 am »

Until you post the plans/drawings/even sketches and how you propose to raise the finance, however please try to avoid (mainly) relying on crowd funding. You are right to suggest that dribs and drabs of half baked info is not the proper way to proceed in an orderly manner! In order to galvanise the support the plans need to be presented for public debate. Perhaps a date can be advised on actual publication?

As we all work in tourism and related businesses we are currently busy and spread around SE Asia. A final edit for publication should be available soon after we can all meet up again late January. I have plans to travel back to the UK in February although I'm not looking forward to it.
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« Reply #30726 on: December 15, 2021, 10:32:45 am »

Not sure how you arrive at that conclusion as home attendances have in some Matches exceeded 4000. Would not surprise me if Sat game exceeds well over 4000?
4000 is for unseated venues, 10,000 is for seated venues.
Unless there is more detail I have missed.
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« Reply #30727 on: December 15, 2021, 10:37:03 am »

Some positive news about Sixfields capacity.... we wont need a Covid Passport to attend  Wink Grin

(Will for Swindon on New Year's day though)

To be honest, the seemingly arbitrary figures for having or not having to produce the Covid Passport appears random?
Why shouldn't we all be asked to provide proof of not having the Virus when in 'congested areas', in order to protect everyone, irrespective of the numbers?
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« Reply #30728 on: December 15, 2021, 11:00:14 am »

Yes, thank you Lord Thomas for keeping the capacity below 10,000!  Grin
Though in seriousness, hardly an issue showing your NHS QR codes as proof of vaccination - think the term 'Covid Passport' rather misleading.

See Carlisle United might be the first, have announced a ground capacity at Brunton Park of 9,999!
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« Reply #30729 on: December 15, 2021, 12:46:01 pm »

Is it not possible to generally be supportive of the chairman without loving him and be slightly critical of the Trust without hating them? There seems to be a tendency for extremes in this social media driven instantaneous world.

Generally I think we have a good chairman, he's not one to take us to the heights we all want but I'm not sure he has ever claimed to be. I feel he has at times hidden behind all the land issues, council delays etc when he could have progressed the club but equally many would have walked away from the mess they came into. I know he did to some extent when they officially put the club up for sale and sold in secret but they have also kept investing in the squad, topped up the staff's pay during covid, etc. I have contacted him personally on both the good and the bad and he has always replied and been gracious when I have met him in person. I haven't always agreed with him but can at least understand his position.

Generally I think we have a Trust who are passionate about the club and want the best for the future of the club and the fans but they have let passion boil over and become 'unprofessional' in some of their correspondence. I feel they have lost their way and have come up with lots of criticism without offering any solutions or being clear what it is they do want, "a stand finished to the highest standards" is very ambiguous. I must admit I haven't contacted the Trust directly and maybe that should be my next step as they may be doing thigs in private. Having said that I don't feel compelled to, and it is sad to see the replies the Trust get on Facebook, Twitter etc that are not positive. They seem to have made great strides both on here and with the tone of the communications but I think they need to do more to get back to truly representing the fan base. I've seen Trust members point to the membership numbers as proof they do... The Labour Party has more than twice the membership of the Conservative party but have had no power for 11 years

Happy Wednesday everyone

Brilliantly put.
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« Reply #30730 on: December 15, 2021, 12:50:29 pm »

4000 is for unseated venues, 10,000 is for seated venues.
Unless there is more detail I have missed.


Understood….now Grin
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« Reply #30731 on: December 15, 2021, 13:03:04 pm »

Is it not possible to generally be supportive of the chairman without loving him and be slightly critical of the Trust without hating them? There seems to be a tendency for extremes in this social media driven instantaneous world.


Unfortunately, that hardened perspective of others is lost amongst many on here. 
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« Reply #30732 on: December 15, 2021, 13:23:52 pm »

Empty vessels make more noise.
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« Reply #30733 on: December 15, 2021, 13:56:33 pm »

I agree that we need a balance view, also worth bearing in mind that NTFC have a full time team of several people pumping out various stories all the time, to expect the same from the Trust is not a balanced view.
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« Reply #30734 on: December 15, 2021, 13:57:54 pm »

Is it not possible to generally be supportive of the chairman without loving him and be slightly critical of the Trust without hating them? There seems to be a tendency for extremes in this social media driven instantaneous world.
It should also be possible to be critical of the club in a constructive way and not be judged for that, and at the same time to be understanding of the Trusts concern over the long term future of the club.
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« Reply #30735 on: December 15, 2021, 16:15:59 pm »

It should also be possible to be critical of the club in a constructive way and not be judged for that, and at the same time to be understanding of the Trusts concern over the long term future of the club.
Atkins has just joined the trust board of directors./
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« Reply #30736 on: December 15, 2021, 17:44:19 pm »

To be honest, the seemingly arbitrary figures for having or not having to produce the Covid Passport appears random?
Why shouldn't we all be asked to provide proof of not having the Virus when in 'congested areas', in order to protect everyone, irrespective of the numbers?

Don't think they are random at all. Personally I don't think the figures go far enough - down that is. For instance our capacity 7500+ saves us from passports. For me it is idle for people to suggest that open air stadiums are relatively safe which is a somewhat naïve assumption given the Omicron 2day/or less infection...around.  Perhaps much lower rates should be applied now, by 30% reduction on current capacity. I also think the Conservative protest last night was woefully out of tune with general public opinion.
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« Reply #30737 on: December 15, 2021, 17:48:07 pm »

Atkins has just joined the trust board of directors./



The new manager of Northampton (Trust) FC. Be prepared for some boring football  Tongue
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« Reply #30738 on: December 15, 2021, 17:52:19 pm »

It should also be possible to be critical of the club in a constructive way and not be judged for that, and at the same time to be understanding of the Trusts concern over the long term future of the club.
It doesn’t fit with their agenda though, and having a different view makes you and I quote, “a twat, mentally ill or for some wishing you dead”.
A good dose of the truth does bring out the worst in some people, especially if that’s coupled with limited mental capacity.
Tel and his little group of cronies really are taken with a few words from the important man in the suit.
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« Reply #30739 on: December 15, 2021, 18:01:05 pm »

Don't think they are random at all. Personally I don't think the figures go far enough - down that is. For instance our capacity 7500+ saves us from passports. For me it is idle for people to suggest that open air stadiums are relatively safe which is a somewhat naïve assumption given the Omicron 2day/or less infection...around.  Perhaps much lower rates should be applied now, by 30% reduction on current capacity. I also think the Conservative protest last night was woefully out of tune with general public opinion.

I think that you are agreeing with what i have said... Wink
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