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I'm still reading the thread but with a kind of bemused weariness ......
It seems the very essence of human nature gets missed in the discussions
Let's suppose Beds gets the East Stand finished and 2k worth of extra seats on both the North and South Stand via a new owner who has sufficiently deep pockets to make this happen - we achieve promotion, consolidate and start to challenge for a promotion position in the Championship......
With predictable certainty you can hear the same voices - "12,000 stadium - not enough to sustain us in the Championship", "with our catchment area we should be looking at a 20,000 capacity", "bloody owners, not really interesting in investing in the club, content to leave us stagnating in League 1"...................................
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I was only in Sydney for 11 days to attend a wedding..
Melbourne is as rough as ar5eholes, they've let the place for into wrack and ruin because they believe it's not worth spending money on the place, and this make Melly very happy that his council taxes aren't being wasted.
Clairvoyant as well? Shame, I was in Sydney too, you could have put me straight in person. |
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Clairvoyant as well? Shame, I was in Sydney too, you could have put me straight in person.
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So much sh!t has been chatted that I don't believe a work the plasterer says You don't think they were both in Sydney and at the same wedding then? |
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Worthless Recluse
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I'm still reading the thread but with a kind of bemused weariness ......
It seems the very essence of human nature gets missed in the discussions
Let's suppose Beds gets the East Stand finished and 2k worth of extra seats on both the North and South Stand via a new owner who has sufficiently deep pockets to make this happen - we achieve promotion, consolidate and start to challenge for a promotion position in the Championship......
With predictable certainty you can hear the same voices - "12,000 stadium - not enough to sustain us in the Championship", "with our catchment area we should be looking at a 20,000 capacity", "bloody owners, not really interesting in investing in the club, content to leave us stagnating in League 1"...................................
Better than jumping straight into a 50,000 all seater. |
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You don't think they were both in Sydney and at the same wedding then?
Note I said "plasterer"! |
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned before and I have no idea about the feasibility but if possible and we did get promoted would it be worth moving our biggest 3/4 fixtures to Franklin’s Gardens?
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned before and I have no idea about the feasibility but if possible and we did get promoted would it be worth moving our biggest 3/4 fixtures to Franklin’s Gardens?
I am led to believe that this is an idea that was floated some years ago. But it was ruled out due to the financial issues around it for us. I'd imagine it's better for us to have a full stadium, and actually be turning some away. But keeping all of the takings. Rather than having a couple of extra thousand on the gate, but only getting a small cut of the takings. |
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There used to be a tunnel from Upton in to St James but Bowers had it filled with methane to stop the council flooding it with loot.
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guest3571
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned before and I have no idea about the feasibility but if possible and we did get promoted would it be worth moving our biggest 3/4 fixtures to Franklin’s Gardens?
From EFL Each Club shall register its ground with The League and no Club shall remove to another
ground (whether on a temporary or a permanent basis) without first obtaining the written
consent of the Board, such consent not to be unreasonably withheld and the Board shall be
entitled, if granting consent, to impose such conditions as it deems appropriate in all the
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Manwork04
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From EFL
Each Club shall register its ground with The League and no Club shall remove to another
ground (whether on a temporary or a permanent basis) without first obtaining the written
consent of the Board, such consent not to be unreasonably withheld and the Board shall be
entitled, if granting consent, to impose such conditions as it deems appropriate in all the
circumstances
More Bollox from the EFL. |
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DavCobb
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We should have been ground sharing with the Saints years ago. Crazy to have stadia so close to one another and they won the race to the top.
Anyone would struggle to come up with counter arguments based on nearly 30 years of Sixfields history.
Realistically are the benefits and cost of running your own space ever going to come to fruition?
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Manwork04
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We should have been ground sharing with the Saints years ago. Crazy to have stadia so close to one another and they won the race to the top.
Anyone would struggle to come up with counter arguments based on nearly 30 years of Sixfields history.
Realistically are the benefits and cost of running your own space ever going to come to fruition?
Certainly not in L2, arguably break even L1, money starts to roll in the Championship. |
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Stick a tier on the South Stand and all our troubles will disappear
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I agree that we need a much bigger ground. Don't think many people would disagree with it. A quick glance at the average attendances in league1 shows that there are 13 clubs currently averaging crowds higher than what our actual capacity is! https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/attendancesI think the difference though is that once you are lumbered with a 'tiny ground' its very difficult to actually do anything about it unless you are prepared to throw in millions. There are very very few clubs which have significantly increased their stadia's capacity's, in most cases they have moved to a bigger ground. That has worked for many clubs, also it has been a burden for others. I reckon it would work for us but how's do you go about it? I see no point in significantly expanding Sixfields. If it was up to me, Id sell the bloody gaff and move to somewhere else into a brand new 15-20k capacity stadium. Of course that is pure fantasy, I aint stupid! I've said before. Whilst there is land on the table, we will forever be dragged along with it. So the best course of action would be for the current custodians to do the deal they have on the table and either sort the stand out or sell us on to someone who will. Either way, I aint bothered. 10k, 12k capacity will make virtually zero difference. For us to shoot up to the size of club that you aspire us to be, we need a minimum of 15-20k capacity. With very decent facilities. And a playing budget 3 times the size of what it is. I don't expect KT and DB to give us that, indeed I don't expect anyone too. We need about 30million quid spent on us basically. With no realistic hope of an ROI!  Generally agree with a lot of that except your assumption that all the land belongs solely to cdnl/thomas and co therefore NTFC have no rights to any profits resulting from any land sales, this is of course not true, Northampton's football club is very entitled to its share, but is likely to get shafted hard when all is divided up. If the supporters were to rally the council in support of ntfc in the face of cdnl's awful plans, NTFC would be given enough to finish West stand and expand south stand by 3000.. The reason we're not getting a decent stadium is because our clubs fans inexplicably don't want it. |
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Generally agree with a lot of that except your assumption that all the land belongs solely to cdnl/thomas and co therefore NTFC have no rights to any profits resulting from any land sales, this is of course not true, Northampton's football club is very entitled to its share, but is likely to get shafted hard when all is divided up.
If the supporters were to rally the council in support of ntfc in the face of cdnl's awful plans, NTFC would be given enough to finish West stand and expand south stand by 3000..
The reason we're not getting a decent stadium is because our clubs fans inexplicably don't want it.
I can't speak for Drilling but most people would assume that the land belongs solely to whoever buys it from the council. Be that CDNL, Cildara or yourself, if your pockets are as large as your mouth/keyboard! The supporters would love a decent stadium and I'm sure they would rally round a figurehead, so come on Oh Great One! Lead us to the promised land. Less words, more action. |
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I can't speak for Drilling but most people would assume that the land belongs solely to whoever buys it from the council. Be that CDNL, Cildara or yourself, if your pockets are as large as your mouth/keyboard!
The supporters would love a decent stadium and I'm sure they would rally round a figurehead, so come on Oh Great One! Lead us to the promised land. Less words, more action.
A pretty dream, but the reality is Northampton's football club is "entitled" to nothing in all this. Yes, of course we'd like a share of the proceeds, but that is not within our gift. |
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Generally agree with a lot of that except your assumption that all the land belongs solely to cdnl/thomas and co therefore NTFC have no rights to any profits resulting from any land sales, this is of course not true, Northampton's football club is very entitled to its share, but is likely to get shafted hard when all is divided up.
If the supporters were to rally the council in support of ntfc in the face of cdnl's awful plans, NTFC would be given enough to finish West stand and expand south stand by 3000..
The reason we're not getting a decent stadium is because our clubs fans inexplicably don't want it.
Northampton Town Football club (as much as we would all like it to be different) have absolutely zero entitlement to the land or any associated profits, none. The only way NTFC get a penny is if CDNL, the Trust or a rich and generous fan are able to buy the land. Cilldara will not give us a penny and as much as I would love for the council to give the club a share of the profits they wont. That ship was well and truly shat upon by our previous chairman and his 'mates'. |
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Generally agree with a lot of that except your assumption that all the land belongs solely to cdnl/thomas and co therefore NTFC have no rights to any profits resulting from any land sales, this is of course not true, Northampton's football club is very entitled to its share, but is likely to get shafted hard when all is divided up.
If the supporters were to rally the council in support of ntfc in the face of cdnl's awful plans, NTFC would be given enough to finish West stand and expand south stand by 3000..
The reason we're not getting a decent stadium is because our clubs fans inexplicably don't want it.
That land belongs to whoever buys it. A concept that appears to have bypassed you and those on the former Trust board. If the person/s who buys it, including KT and DB, choose to put some of the money back into the club. Then that's just a decent gesture. There shouldn't be anymore expectation to do so. |
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If there is so much profit in the land why do the Council not develop it themselves for the taxpayers benefit............oh no they cock up everything they touch!!!!!
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