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You have to realise you don't get penalised for not selling every single seat every game, just sell an extra 10 or 20% tickets a season can turn over £500k plus.
Also it's seem very short term to look for an instant return on investment when our clubs been around 130 years and will be still here in 130 more!
What happens when you build a warehouse and miss out on ticket sales, will be losses in the 10s of millions in a decades time, many 1000s will miss out watching bigger games resulting in poor league positions and further loses as a consequence...
As you were..
Yep, 130 years of history, yet you are fixated on this current set of owners to do all of this expansion when they've probably been responsible for more progress for our club than any other. |
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Er...no. Have you seen the amount of building work going on inside the stand with brickwork etc. creating toilet blocks, lifts, lounges, working kitchen and of course the executive boxes. So, when you say stand was built it was literally just the shell. On top of that you've got the outside of the stand (reception area) and cladding along with road and parking areas.
The access road alone will be circa £150-£200 per square meter. But as he says... "It's just a fit out" 😂😂 |
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Let's talk about a redevelopment that actually allows U14s to attend matches at Sixfields and not be barred...
That is a shameful thing to say. We could have a stadium the size of Wembley and they still wouldn't be allowed to attend unless accompanied. Go away and lend your wealth of knowledge to your phoenix club. |
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Apologies for quoting my own post, but I was surprised no one from the £5.8m non league stand appreciation society commented on it.
Let's talk about a redevelopment that actually allows U14s to attend matches at Sixfields and not be barred...
According to Thomas we have ample seats but places restrictions on essential new supporters watching the bigger games and getting on board.
Feet to the fire time...
Do I think we could sell 10,000 + seats to 3-4 games this season - Yes Do I think it is a good business decision because of all the other games - No Would I want any of those extra seats going to away fans - No. As others have stated U14's can attend games in line with safe guarding measure which are set by the league I believe. Regarding not attracting new fans... awarded Silver status, better than Oxford, MK, and same as Peterborough. Luton didnt get anything  9 years in a row now they have received the award, how long has KT owned the club?  https://www.efl.com/news/2024/may/23/record-number-of-efl-clubs-achieve-family-excellence-status-as-one-million-junior-fans-pass-through-turnstiles/Hope that helps. |
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Just to confirm my U14 kids come with me to games. I’ve seen them sat next to me with my own eyes.
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That is a shameful thing to say. We could have a stadium the size of Wembley and they still wouldn't be allowed to attend unless accompanied.
Go away and lend your wealth of knowledge to your phoenix club.
He clearly has no idea that this extends across the football league or an understanding of safeguarding policies put in place to protect people. It is unfortunate that this is needed and kids can’t just rock up with their mates for 90p on the Hotel End and learn more words and phrases than their parents would like. |
I think someone should just take this city of Peterborough and just... just flush it down the f***in' toilet
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How many haven't? It made me laugh the club mouth peice blowing smoke saying for the first time in our clubs 130 years have we pitch facing boxes...Not pointing out we're actually the very last professional club to also have them 😀
Sorry Bubbles I thought we were talking about it being a non league stand. You hum it son, I’ll play it. |
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U14 £5 tickets always makes a mockery of BedsCobb's hilarious calculations. So it should be seen as a good thing.
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U14 £5 tickets always makes a mockery of BedsCobb's hilarious calculations. So it should be seen as a good thing.
Not to mention the free ones for under 7s. |
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He’ll be off for a few days, Derek will probably take his place during that time and complain about all the bullying poor Beds is subjected to
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He’ll be off for a few days, Derek will probably take his place during that time and complain about all the bullying poor Beds is subjected to
They'll both say exactly what they are told. |
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They'll both say exactly what they are told.
It's almost as if they're provided with a script  |
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Under 14s can attend games but have to be accompanied by an adult
U14s can attend Franklin Gardens and the county ground, just not Sixfields...Why? |
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Actual football owners. Logic. Reasonable debate. Factual calculations.
Or BedsCobb.
It's really hard to work out which makes the most sense?
Not our owners at Sixfields that's for sure. |
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Er...no. Have you seen the amount of building work going on inside the stand with brickwork etc. creating toilet blocks, lifts, lounges, working kitchen and of course the executive boxes. So, when you say stand was built it was literally just the shell. On top of that you've got the outside of the stand (reception area) and cladding along with road and parking areas.
OK , thats £2.5m worth ... |
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That figure is based on us attracting 10-15% per every home fixture. For which we don't need to expand anything for. For all but three games, we will easily accommodate that percentage of increase already.. You and Duston need to go back to the thick controller and tell him you're sinking with nothing more than his fictional figures.
On several occasions when ntfc just make up the numbers without threatening promotion they still sell out either the home or away sections on 10 occasions...so thats 300 to 500k per season now... What if we were to actually win a load of games early on with an exciting team...that would be nearer 20 sell outs of home or away sections, that's losses of £1m easily. But I see yours and Thomas's logic by playing L2 or just tread water and try and survive L1 seasons in hope of avoiding relegation...You can get away with non league facilities. It just loses money and future support base getting involved with our mothballed club. |
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Yep, 130 years of history, yet you are fixated on this current set of owners to do all of this expansion when they've probably been responsible for more progress for our club than any other.
No one asked them to mothball our clubs growth these past 10 years. It's the job of the chairman to achieve realistic growth let's not forget. Spending £5.8m on a non league stand fit out a decade later isn't cutting the mustard. |
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BedsCobb
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The access road alone will be circa £150-£200 per square meter. But as he says... "It's just a fit out" 😂😂
Why waste money on a warehouse service Rd or an unnecessary vip car park for 20 cars when considering we are unable to satisfy demand for tickets several times a season? This is a great point by you which needs close scrutiny. it seems this isn't in the clubs best interests? Who is the making these ridiculous decisions that are not beneficial to our clubs abilities to trade correctly? |
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That is a shameful thing to say. We could have a stadium the size of Wembley and they still wouldn't be allowed to attend unless accompanied.
Go away and lend your wealth of knowledge to your phoenix club.
What's wrong with u14 attending matches at Sixfields? They do at the Saints and steelbacks. |
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