Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

[Observing]

To be professional and polite is a prerequisite of business, you won’t get anywhere or achieve anything without being this way, it will also give a you a groundswell of support from your members and the general public.

You have to rise above and be the better people, you’ll suddenly find a lot more people support your initiatives this way.

I don’t know what’s happened Manny but I find myself agreeing with you again.

[EB Claret]

Is Manny morphing into Peter Frost?

[Melbourne Cobbler]

I don’t know what’s happened Manny but I find myself agreeing with you again.

I’ve always had faith in the lad and knew he’d come around with a bit of persuasion. I feel like a proud parent.

[Worthless Recluse]

I didn't find anything objectional. I just hoped that you might attach enough significance to your point, to post a link, or offer your opinion on it, as opposed to that of other Trusts. I was unclear as to what your thoughts were. So you "pre-empted" my thoughts wrong..

In terms of their letter. I'm not surprised that they have written it. It has become clear to them and some other Trusts that they will no longer have, or enjoy, in some cases an exclusive place with either the support, or their respective clubs. The obvious trend, and rightfully so, is for clubs to embrace supporters opinions from all areas, not just via a Trust. I would have thought that would be favourable. I don't see why they should expect a separate arrangement. 

Because of the reasons they laid out in their letter, Terry.

[Melbourne Cobbler]

I think that letter was a great idea. I’m no psychic but I imagine another letter may be about to drop on Lisa’s mat any day now. You never know, this might turn out to be one of those win, win scenarios. An equal, consistent and fair level of scrutiny applied to all parties seems reasonable to me. The owners were already getting it, so why not everyone. Who knows, perhaps the exact details of the Cilldara partnership will finally be revealed after all. I don’t think people have completely thought this through, talk about shoot yourself in the foot.

[Terryfenwickatemyhamster]

I don’t think people have completely thought this through, talk about shoot yourself in the foot.

Isn't that the current Trust board motto....

[A view from afar]

It's been clear for a while, they are like a tied up barking dog. They won't shut up but powerless to cause any harm.
The only way things will change is when they starve.

That was dark. 

The most surprising thing for me is the lack of awareness, or maybe sheer anger and arrogance, that they can't see that nothing is ever going to change whilst the set up and approach stays the same. I'm assuming some of these people are quite intelligent. Best they can hope for is to ride it out until the current owners move on and then try and get their teeth into the next one. Whether they like it or not, KT has their number and the fan base has been alienated.
A strange way to conduct yourself. They remind me very much of the most militant of Unions.

Oh some are definitely intelligent, where they continue to fail is belittling the supporters they claim to represent whilst acting in a manner akin to Neanderthal man.


We need a Trust .
We don’t need or want anything to do with the current board….. or the hanger on!

[Manwork04]

I’ve always had faith in the lad and knew he’d come around with a bit of persuasion. I feel like a proud parent.

❤️

[DustonCobbler]

Duston, quick question, what percentage split do you see the current relationship status being down to. How much is the Owners and how much is the Trust Board / Advisors?
50/50, 60/40, 80/20 ...?

many answers to that I would say

The club and TC have decided not to engage with the Trust although its ok for KT to rant on local radio for 15 mins unchallenged, so that bit is 100 / 0 (owners first)

The owners decided they didn't want Trust involved with club when they arrived so 100 / 0

various action by owners including no sponsor announcements etc 100 / 0

I joined the board. 0 /100

I wont go on,,,,

All I will say is that, KT HATES anyone questioning him or looking at HIS business and that is what I and John do the most

KT / club have done and said many things in order to drive a wedge between everyone and the Trust and with £10m at stake, what would you do in your power to protect it.

We are getting toward their end game and KT will want the Trust to be as weak as possible, He doesn't want us questioning or looking into details and facts.

so its no surprise to the Trust board that he uses BBC Radio Northampton to launch an attacked on the Trust for simply asking what is happening with planning because according to our planning sources, any new planning with need a 13 week consultation.

Why suddenly are we rival bidders again. - he mentioned it SIX times - why?   we were rival bidders in an early stage process, that the bid was withdrawn after 3 months or so and it was almost 2 years ago   WHY NOW?

We had a couple of face to face meeting with him and both times he asked me to stop posting on THE, which in the main i did. When his new members joined the board and tried to get rid of John (and myself), I again did, posting less often and less critical.

And the thanks we got was refusing a table at the 125 year anniversary dinner, setting up the FAB and refusing us a place, refusing to engage with us at any level on any subject, whilst using every opportunity to grow division between the Trust and supporters / members and club.

For what its worth I have said that we should give the club notice, we should have posted an update re the Companies House, we should speak more with members and fans and there are many lessons to learn

But it was all done with 1000% genuine desire for a better, modern football club and nothing else. I just think we NTFC deserves it as does Northampton.

From someone on the inside, someone who has seen, read and heard a lot of things around the running of the club, the Trust, the fans and the relationships etc etc

My very honest, I hope to think and say, a genuine view it would say 75 /25. 

The club has massive resources compared to the Trust and IMHO rather than using them for good, has used them in the main, for their own purposes in order for them to facilitate a land deal and maximise their return.

As i have said, just one big massive lost opportunity

[DustonCobbler]

Oh some are definitely intelligent, were they continue to fail is belittling the supporters they claim to represent whilst acting in a manner akin to Neanderthal man.


We need a Trust .
We don’t need or want anything to do with the current board….. or the hanger on!

Hang on a minute, make your mind up

thought you said we don't need a Trust, we have the FAB

[DustonCobbler]

I'm unsure how clear you want me to make it Derek. I want you. and the rest of the current Trust board to step down. I really hoped after the JR, and the subsequent re-start of the redevelopment, that you and your fellow board members would adopt a more conciliatory and contrite attitude towards the Trust membership, and the club. It would not matter to me who the main players are. What matters to me, is bringing a productive, fresh Trust back into the fold. I don't doubt that you and the others feel you are doing the right thing. But you must be able to see that there is zero future in maintaining the status quo. If we had a new board at the helm of the Trust, I would fully expect a shift of attitude from the owners. If that was not forthcoming, I know the emphasis would shift to them to make in roads towards a better future for the Trust.   

You had a new raft of board members and the club refused to meet so no shift of attitude at all

Its obviously that time of year where someone starts these conversations.

what is the point in having another group of YES men?

or is it you are only allowed in if you keep your mouth shut and don't rock the boat, oh and don't ask the owners for 2p cos you aint getting a penny

[DustonCobbler]

To be professional and polite is a prerequisite of business, you won’t get anywhere or achieve anything without being this way, it will also give a you a groundswell of support from your members and the general public.

You have to rise above and be the better people, you’ll suddenly find a lot more people support your initiatives this way.

assume you have listened to KT on radio last week and any number of his previous rants and false allegations against the Trust

Yeah really professional and polite

But that it seems is ok, most of you on here think its a one way street

[Observing]

I know for a FACT KT doesn’t hate people questioning him.

I’ve done it myself numerous times and have a good relationship with him.

Manny said it perfectly, it’s HOW you conduct your yourselves.

[Worthless Recluse]

I know for a FACT KT doesn’t hate people questioning him.

I’ve done it myself numerous times and have a good relationship with him.

Manny said it perfectly, it’s HOW you conduct your yourselves.

Does he hate people disagreeing with him, are you able to shed any light on that one? 

[Manwork04]

assume you have listened to KT on radio last week and any number of his previous rants and false allegations against the Trust

Yeah really professional and polite

But that it seems is ok, most of you on here think its a one way street

You know what I think, and I agree with a lot you guys stand for, it’s the way your going about it, listen I’ve been critical of the owners BUT we need to do it in a reasonable manner, it is after all their money, I think the words are influence and help.
Screaming and shouting, metaphorically, just makes them dig their heels in even further and in this case shut you out altogether.

[A view from afar]

Hang on a minute, make your mind up

thought you said we don't need a Trust, we have the FAB

We need a body of supporters to represent us.
We need that body to be professionally critical, supportive, inclusive and courteous.
I don’t care what it’s called.
Trust or FAB ….
I do know who I don’t want on that body…. Whatever it’s called.

[A view from afar]

You had a new raft of board members and the club refused to meet so no shift of attitude at all

Its obviously that time of year where someone starts these conversations.

what is the point in having another group of YES men?

or is it you are only allowed in if you keep your mouth shut and don't rock the boat, oh and don't ask the owners for 2p cos you aint getting a penny

😂 yes men…. That’s exactly what the trusts board is amongst itself.
You say yes to all your own policies and plans disagreeing with everything being discussed by the fans you claim to represent.
The people who came in to try and effect change clearly didn’t agree with the current board so they were effectively “no men”…. Hastily they were made unwelcome and left.

Yes men 😂

[Observing]

Does he hate people disagreeing with him, are you able to shed any light on that one? 

 

He really doesn’t. If you’re respectful and balanced.

It’s really not that hard.

[Manwork04]

He really doesn’t. If you’re respectful and balanced.

It’s really not that hard.

+1

[Zen Master]

I wont go on,,,,

Thanks