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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #400 on: October 21, 2013, 13:55:06 pm »

It might be a bit controversial but there is a chance that the new 'facilities' won't be getting a lot of use until the hotel is built. We may get a bit of extra income on match days but can't imagine there will be a bit queue of big corporates waiting to snap up boxes. Outside of match days virtually every conference facility comes with accommodation. Maybe if they are a decent price our best bet (on match days) may be some small local customers or maybe ST syndicates.
Without looking it up what is the latest completion date for the hotel?
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« Reply #401 on: October 21, 2013, 15:22:04 pm »

It might be a bit controversial but there is a chance that the new 'facilities' won't be getting a lot of use until the hotel is built. We may get a bit of extra income on match days but can't imagine there will be a bit queue of big corporates waiting to snap up boxes. Outside of match days virtually every conference facility comes with accommodation. Maybe if they are a decent price our best bet (on match days) may be some small local customers or maybe ST syndicates.
Without looking it up what is the latest completion date for the hotel?

I think the point that there'll be more use of the conference facilities once the hotel is built is a sound one, but I know a bit about the business at Colchester's new ground where there is no hotel, in a town smaller than Northampton. They can and regularly do seat 1000 people for a "business breakfast" event and the profit from this can be greater than from a Tuesday night game where the crowd is pushing down now to 2000 in League One, in what is a horrible breeze block and corrugated plastic, out of town ground that hardly anyone can walk to, unlike the old Layer Road.

The income that can be generated from this kind of conference activity shouldn't be under-estimated: the football ground is actually a very nice conference centre with a cheap and nasty football ground tacked on the side to secure the planning permission. Be careful what you wish for!
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« Reply #402 on: October 21, 2013, 17:02:23 pm »

I think the point that there'll be more use of the conference facilities once the hotel is built is a sound one, but I know a bit about the business at Colchester's new ground where there is no hotel, in a town smaller than Northampton. They can and regularly do seat 1000 people for a "business breakfast" event and the profit from this can be greater than from a Tuesday night game where the crowd is pushing down now to 2000 in League One, in what is a horrible breeze block and corrugated plastic, out of town ground that hardly anyone can walk to, unlike the old Layer Road.

The income that can be generated from this kind of conference activity shouldn't be under-estimated: the football ground is actually a very nice conference centre with a cheap and nasty football ground tacked on the side to secure the planning permission. Be careful what you wish for!

Fair enough. I've been using and booking venues for 20 years but wouldn't consider one without accommodation. There is tons of competition in Northamptonshire too. Having said that any income is better than what we get from the current ground. I hope we do a good job of it. Highgate house, Staverton, Grange Park, Brackmills all good venues that regularly so deals for big businesses. Competition is healthy though to stay ahead of the game.
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« Reply #403 on: October 21, 2013, 17:54:35 pm »

To be honest, I think its an easy winner. If they 'sell it right' then businesses will use it. Offering them 'freebies' etc as part of a package = no brainer. And yeah, once the hotel is there it will be even more profitable.

Are they looking at hitting the wedding market as well? There are literally hardly any decent size wedding venues in the area, certainly not unless you've got mega money. The profit margin in holding weddings is astronomical! Rushden and Diamonds used to do well with weddings and that tells you all you need to know!
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« Reply #404 on: October 21, 2013, 18:22:25 pm »

Have I missed the point here? The hotel is being built for Hilton (?) who will then pay rent to the Cobblers?

The Hilton at Collingtree has its own conference facilities and meeting rooms.....if the Hilton Sixfields has the same won't that in fact put then in direct competition with the Cobblers? Being as Hilton don't normally do budget hotels in the Premier Inn/Ibis mode and being as the budget and build price for the hotel is so high I'm assuming they'll have some facilities of their own?
So how much "co-operation" as proposed in the above posts will happen in this scenario??
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« Reply #405 on: October 21, 2013, 18:33:23 pm »

maybe collingtree is always running at maximum capacity so they would like another site
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« Reply #406 on: October 21, 2013, 19:36:22 pm »

I suspect if this is a Hilton - it could be a DoubleTree which they have at Framchise World.

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« Reply #407 on: October 21, 2013, 19:41:31 pm »

how do you even know that
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« Reply #408 on: October 21, 2013, 19:41:52 pm »

sorry.

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why would you even know that
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« Reply #409 on: October 21, 2013, 19:56:40 pm »

If it is going to be a Hilton it might be a Hampton by Hilton which is their budget chain. We have one near us in Corby.
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« Reply #410 on: October 21, 2013, 20:07:58 pm »

To be honest, I think its an easy winner. If they 'sell it right' then businesses will use it. Offering them 'freebies' etc as part of a package = no brainer. And yeah, once the hotel is there it will be even more profitable.

Are they looking at hitting the wedding market as well? There are literally hardly any decent size wedding venues in the area, certainly not unless you've got mega money. The profit margin in holding weddings is astronomical! Rushden and Diamonds used to do well with weddings and that tells you all you need to know!

So long as they don't want it on a matchday Saturday afternoon?
They wouldn't be able to book before the season's fixture list comes out?
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« Reply #411 on: October 21, 2013, 20:16:58 pm »

If it is going to be a Hilton it might be a Hampton by Hilton which is their budget chain. We have one near us in Corby.
If it is going to be a Hilton it might be a Hampton by Hilton which is their budget chain. We have one near us in Corby.

There is one of those at Luton Airport. Surely Northampton is more classy than that.



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« Reply #412 on: October 21, 2013, 20:19:42 pm »

So long as they don't want it on a matchday Saturday afternoon?
They wouldn't be able to book before the season's fixture list comes out?

DC might be kicking Coventry out fairly soon then?!
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« Reply #413 on: October 22, 2013, 06:41:59 am »

I am sure in the presentation on the official website by the Commercial Manager to the Chamber of Commerce breakfast meeting that he says that part of the deal for the hotel is that they don't have Conference facilities and will use the new East stand with a link building. It will also have the largest room facility in the region (over 1000 sq. ft.) which can be divided up into three.

Maybe we should all have a look at that before speculating and rumour spreading.

http://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/article/redevelop-presentation-1117826.aspx

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« Reply #414 on: October 22, 2013, 18:38:54 pm »

Surely Northampton is more classy than that.


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« Reply #415 on: November 05, 2013, 18:18:50 pm »

Wouldn't it be prudent to invest money into the playing squad rather than worry about the redevelopment.

When the executive boxes are ready we could be welcoming alfreton.
I'm sure local businesses will rather have boxes to see the saints,Coventry or mk dons before offering their clients the chance to watch some non league fare.

Stick this redevelopment on the back burner.
It will fall flat on its arse if we are relegated out of the football league.
If we can't afford to put a decent team on the pitch we shouldn't be getting grants to build a bigger stadium that will never be more than hall full.

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« Reply #416 on: November 05, 2013, 18:29:26 pm »

is this another wind up or are you genuinely thick?
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« Reply #417 on: November 05, 2013, 18:51:44 pm »

You clearly are a wind up merchant. Trouble is I don't think you realise it.
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« Reply #418 on: November 05, 2013, 18:57:18 pm »

The fact that housing and a hotel means we can have a bigger stadium will count for nothing if we are relegated.

Extra revenue streams from executive boxes will not be filled by companies eager to watch alfreton town.
So that's a red herring.
Come back and tell me we will fill the stadium when we are no longer a football league club.
We can't fill the one we have got.
You might have a few houses built.
You might have some rooms booked in the hotel.

You will have crowds of around the 3000 mark watching the cobblers play the likes of alfreton.
How exactly will companies invest to watch non league football at the cobblers when they can watch top level rugby down the road.

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« Reply #419 on: November 05, 2013, 19:00:21 pm »

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