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The fact that housing and a hotel means we can have a bigger stadium will count for nothing if we are relegated.
Extra revenue streams from executive boxes will not be filled by companies eager to watch alfreton town. So that's a red herring. Come back and tell me we will fill the stadium when we are no longer a football league club. We can't fill the one we have got. You might have a few houses built. You might have some rooms booked in the hotel.
You will have crowds of around the 3000 mark watching the cobblers play the likes of alfreton. How exactly will companies invest to watch non league football at the cobblers when they can watch top level rugby down the road.
big conference rooms will still get used on a wednesday whether we're playing kettering or not spacker boy
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is this another wind up or are you genuinely thick?
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Let's agree to disagree then.
But come this time next year when the cobblers will be playing alfreton on a wet Tuesday night in a crowd hardly touching 3000 please feel free to come back and tell me all about the positives the housing and the hotel have had on the club. Please regale me at halftime on the subject of revenue streams whilst we can contemplate a Tuesday night trip to Gateshead.
The talk of revenue streams,housing estates and hotels will warm the cockles of my heart on the long journey home.
As for being thick I think you will find that I predicted this whole mess pre season and decided not to renew my season ticket because of my feelings(which of course is my right as much as it is yours to attend). No much more knowledgable people knocked my negativity and shouted me down when I discussed budget cuts,free transfers deemed not good enough for league two rivals,yet again relying on cheap youth loans. Well I'm happy to be thick and the happy clappers can be happy with what I predicted. A poor quality team of freebies and loans out of two cups first round,bottom of the whole football league and s***ting themselves about the prospect of embarrassing themselves on national telly at the hands of the footballing galacticos of bishops stortford.
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You clearly are a wind up merchant. Trouble is I don't think you realise it.
He's not alone though is he - there are two others at it full time
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You clearly are a wind up merchant. Trouble is I don't think you realise it.
...or maybe he's actually quite good at it...
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Let's agree to disagree then.
But come this time next year when the cobblers will be playing alfreton on a wet Tuesday night in a crowd hardly touching 3000 please feel free to come back and tell me all about the positives the housing and the hotel have had on the club. Please regale me at halftime on the subject of revenue streams whilst we can contemplate a Tuesday night trip to Gateshead.
The talk of revenue streams,housing estates and hotels will warm the ****les of my heart on the long journey home.
As for being thick I think you will find that I predicted this whole mess pre season and decided not to renew my season ticket because of my feelings(which of course is my right as much as it is yours to attend). No much more knowledgable people knocked my negativity and shouted me down when I discussed budget cuts,free transfers deemed not good enough for league two rivals,yet again relying on cheap youth loans. Well I'm happy to be thick and the happy clappers can be happy with what I predicted. A poor quality team of freebies and loans out of two cups first round,bottom of the whole football league and ****ting themselves about the prospect of embarrassing themselves on national telly at the hands of the footballing galacticos of bishops stortford.
Shoey - your unintentionally winding yourself up - I think
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Those are just my opinions and I don't mind that others may disagree. That is debate which keeps forums lively. I dont always agree with others on here but I never abuse them for having a differing opinion and often acknowledge people when they are right. That's because I am not bigoted or up my own arse.
However seems as I had seen this scenario as far back as June and the lack of any quality additions,joke signings to bolster the squad(you know the ones from non league clubs whose names I can't remember as they never play). The two bob foreign training camp which would help us hit the ground running. The ripping out of the whole spine and experience of the team to be replaced by players deemed not worth keeping by our league two rivals(none of whom are currently below us in the table). I said it all,that I thought hell of a lot was wrong and the happy clappers put on their claret tinted specs and gave me personal abuse. Now have a look back see exactly what I said has not come to pass and see if any one of you whether you like me or not has it in you to at least realise and acknowledge that on this occasion I was spot on. Anyone......
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everbrite
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Those are just my opinions and I don't mind that others may disagree. That is debate which keeps forums lively. I dont always agree with others on here but I never abuse them for having a differing opinion and often acknowledge people when they are right. That's because I am not bigoted or up my own arse.
However seems as I had seen this scenario as far back as June and the lack of any quality additions,joke signings to bolster the squad(you know the ones from non league clubs whose names I can't remember as they never play). The two bob foreign training camp which would help us hit the ground running. The ripping out of the whole spine and experience of the team to be replaced by players deemed not worth keeping by our league two rivals(none of whom are currently below us in the table). I said it all,that I thought hell of a lot was wrong and the happy clappers put on their claret tinted specs and gave me personal abuse. Now have a look back see exactly what I said has not come to pass and see if any one of you whether you like me or not has it in you to at least realise and acknowledge that on this occasion I was spot on. Anyone......
Shoey some of the above is not factually correct; for a start you omitted the injury list and some of the signings will probably go at Xmas. Just remember that hindsight is not always a reliable friend.
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I thought everyone had got the message that we have a top 7 budget , the problem is not the amount of money it's what Aidy has spent it on. The playing budget has got absolutely nothing to do with the re-developement , the council loan is to build on the stadium ,which they own , not a loan to NTFC to do what they want with.The loan will be paid back by developing the surrounding areas ,at a profit and that profit will re pay the loan !
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I agree everbrite they have had injuries to a couple of key players but my points still stand. As far back as the shambles of a pre season tour I could see this coming and posted my concerns. I was derided for my negativity but in fairness it was totally justified. That doesn't make me any better than anyone on this forum but maybe on occasion I am maybe a bit mor perceptive than others. Don't think spotting this a mile off makes me happy it doesn't it pisses me right of the whole avoidable situation.
Actually strangely for a bloke whose followed the team for quater of a century or more it does make me happy that I didn't buy a season ticket as it would break my heart to be there watching this seasons demise. Seriously I'd either be in tears or so bloody angry that I'd say or do something such is my despair/anger that I'd probably be barred from attending,so I'm happy to be at home rather than at sixfields. I must acknowledge though the tremendous support of the away fans who must have tremendous fortitude/no feelings left who trapse up and down the country to almost certain defeat leading to depressing journeys back to Northampton. Il be the first to admit I couldn't stomach that so you those supporters are a credit to your team and have my wholehearted sympathy/respect. You deserve SO much better and I hope somehow you get it.
Up(there's no other way) the tayn.
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Anyway as regards the stadium as we go back on topic. I am still of the opinion that the only way it will ever be filled is if we get to the championship(which was in case anyone has forgot the blueprint for success). Regardless of any disagreements about funding a bigger stadium will just look two bob if it's one third full. It wil also be pathetic if it ends up hosting non league football. If that happens the general public of the country at large will wonder why exactly we expanded it when the club was going down the tubes. That's the impression others will get and it's not good. Whichever way you look at it the boards blueprint for championship football for Northampton in five years has proved false at best,downright laughable at the minute. My one hope for the future of ntfc is that DC realises in time that action must be taken or he has invested in a project that at best will be holed beneath the waterline. I'm sure we'd all agree that being relegated,losing youth team funding,losing a place in the league cup,playing in the fa vase,qualifying for the chance to play in the fa cup and a dramatic loss of match day revenue is a scenario worth avoiding at all costs. The stadium redevelopment is much more stable long term if we remain IN the football league. Having seen the DC video it gives me a little hope as long as things actually materialise. It does beg the question though...now that DC is going to have to invest serious money to keep us in the football league... Why did he decide to cut the budget in the light of an unexpected cash injection via wembley. It's a decision that unfortunately for DC has proved disasterous and has come back and bitten him on the bum. It is a decision that I will never understand.
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Well proof was in the pudding at Nene Park. The Diamond Centre ended up being a rod on the back of two clubs. Aren't conference centres just a little dated? Web meetings, video conferencing etc.
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Shoey, The playing budget, and redevelopment budget are two totally different things. The stadium expansion is funded by redeveloping surrounding land. The value of said land remains the same regardless of what division we are in. The expansion of the stadium means revenue coming in on non match days. On non match days it does not matter how many empty seats there are. I have written this in "bulletpoint" Shoey style to help you understand.
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The Saints have announced their development which is very similar to our own, they will build a stand with 2000 seats. 12 exec boxes, restaurant, bars etc.
They not only have to build a whole new stand but demolished all the old stand, where we only have to build a structure behind an existing stand.
The other difference is the cost of both projects, despite having to carry out a lot more work at the Saints stadium, its costing 5.5 million compared to our £12,000,000.
Probably with a little tweaking of the figures, we could build up behind one of the goals, bit of an atmosphere inducing safe standing terracing, it would give us a quality stadium, best one out there.
This is our one and only opportunity to get it right.
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They not only have to build a whole new stand but demolished all the old stand, where we only have to build a structure behind an existing stand.
This looks like a whole new stand to me.
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This looks like a whole new stand to me. bottom bit looks familiar
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Why did he decide to cut the budget in the light of an unexpected cash injection via wembley. It's a decision that unfortunately for DC has proved disasterous and has come back and bitten him on the bum. It is a decision that I will never understand.
Well despite the wembley money we still made a loss last year. The budget cuts would have made to reduce the size of these losses. As DC has said this season the club has the 9th highest attendances and the 11th highest income. The redevelopment will help to address this but I don't think it will ever have the impact some supporters think it will. We are what we are which is the ninth biggest team in the division. That said we still had a top 7 budget despite only generating the 11th highest income, I not really sure what more you can realistically expect from a chairman. I'm also not convinced the decision to cut the budget is that relevant to the position we are in now. Since the start of the season we have brought in 2 experienced defenders and 4 loan players, AB has given resources way beyond our top 7 budget to address the problems and still we look awful. AB has shown a shocking judgement in the players retained and players brought in, a manager who believed a dream strike partnership is Platt/O'Donovan.
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It has also been documented that after expenses and costs were taken into account the club made very little money out of the Wembley appearance. It was certainly not a large cash injection. In fact we will probably get more income from renting the ground to Coventry this season that we did out of getting to Wembley.
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