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Zen Master
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If we'd won the playoff final maybe Wolves would have run a campaign of 1.2k to Sixfields alongside 10k2MK. Sheffield Utd, MK, Posh etc etc all more than capable of having custom turned away by us. If we'd won that is.
If NBC were doing the building work would Kier have got the tender?!
Of the £12million how much is actually being spent on the ground as opposed to the other components?
Anyone still got a "let's move the Cobblers to Brackmills" car sticker?
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I think someone should just take this city of Peterborough and just... just flush it down the f***in' toilet
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JollyCobbler
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Oops, sorry jollycobbler forgot to answer, no the debt of £7.5m would not be paid as this is separate to the development loan which is to paid for from other developments around the stadium.
That is worrying. So we are currently 20 million in debt, yes? And even after the magnificent expansion(?) is paid for, we will still owe millions? |
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cobbler_rob
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If there is a budget to spend on this redevelopment (£12million) then which are you going to spend it on, more boxes which bring in more money every week, or extra seats that will remain empty for 95% of the time? If we start climbing the leagues as a result of better budget for the squad then I see no reason why the north and south stands could then not be increased
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John
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For fucks sake, shut up until the season is over, you'll have three months to whinge and whine about the redevelopment with no football to obstruct your polluted view. Now is NOT the time!
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Marvellous, Marvo
The legend that is Marvo |
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cricketside
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It's not totally about selling out, it's about how many times in the past, in our better seasons, we could have accommodated a considerable number of extra away fans.
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"Andrew Ellis was very much against what was going on. The Cardozas were strictly about business and development so that was him out the door. Andrew Ellis was only ever a football man."
*****And he appointed Terry Fenwick*****
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JollyCobbler
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For fucks sake, shut up until the season is over, you'll have three months to whinge and whine about the redevelopment with no football to obstruct your polluted view. Now is NOT the time!
It'll be too late to voice concerns by then. If you don't like it don't read it. Simples. |
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John
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It'll be too late to voice concerns by then. If you don't like it don't read it. Simples.
Three weeks? Are you fu cking joking? |
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JollyCobbler
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Three weeks? Are you fucking joking?
Your opinion is that you don't wish to discuss the expansion(?). So don't. If other people choose to do so, what the f*** as it got to do with you? It is a public messageboard, isn't it? People are allowed opinions. It is not Marvoworld. If you don't like it don't read it. Now Piss off  |
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cricketside
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As long as you realise you're not likely to change much, discuss away.
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"Andrew Ellis was very much against what was going on. The Cardozas were strictly about business and development so that was him out the door. Andrew Ellis was only ever a football man."
*****And he appointed Terry Fenwick*****
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JollyCobbler
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As long as you realise you're not likely to change much, discuss away.
Of course. I think much of the world works in this way  |
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lodgeadam
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It's not totally about selling out, it's about how many times in the past, in our better seasons, we could have accommodated a considerable number of extra away fans.
Very minimal compared to the amount of times we could have 10-16 boxes filled out. |
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John
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Your opinion is that you don't wish to discuss the expansion(?). So don't. If other people choose to do so, what the **** as it got to do with you? It is a public messageboard, isn't it? People are allowed opinions. It is not Marvoworld. If you don't like it don't read it. Now **** off It's not that I do not wish to discuss it, I've told you my opinion several times before on the matter, but there is a time and a place and this is not it. Why undermine the team with only three weeks to go in what is a momentous season? You will have 3 months to speak your mind during the summer, I would imagine that is 2 months, 30 days, 23 hours and 59 minutes more than you need. |
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It's very rare for me to agree with Marvo,but he is right. Concentrate on survival and then we can go back to discussing this after the end of the season particularly as most of the comments are just speculation anyway.
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For fucks sake, shut up until the season is over, you'll have three months to whinge and whine about the redevelopment with no football to obstruct your polluted view. Now is NOT the time!
Blimey, is the Cobs survival taking up so much of your time? I've managed to hold down a full time job despite the distractions. |
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John
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Blimey, is the Cobs survival taking up so much of your time? I've managed to hold down a full time job despite the distractions.
Your last six posts have been about the redevelopment and it's been 13 posts since you mentioned events on the field. I think your priorities are there for all to see. |
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guest47
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Your last six posts have been about the redevelopment and it's been 13 posts since you mentioned events on the field. I think your priorities are there for all to see.
Fair point, but you must admit that post 13 times ago about Sinclair was pretty good. You are right, I ought to do more like that. |
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bri77
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Pretty sure most fans can discuss the redevelopment issues on this thread AND manage to talk about the team on others. It's quite a good forum for that.  |
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Alfred
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Why won't people on here acknowledge that we are getting all the internal works, boxes, a conference centre and a hotel as well as a few extra seats as part of the development ??
Corporate makes money 365 days a year ... extra seats would currently make money 5 times a year max.
As and when we need extra seats 4 the championship we can build a new north stand.
The redevelopment is about corporate income not more empty seats.
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TopCat
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Why won't people on here acknowledge that we are getting all the internal works, boxes, a conference centre and a hotel as well as a few extra seats as part of the development ??
Corporate makes money 365 days a year ... extra seats would currently make money 5 times a year max.
As and when we need extra seats 4 the championship we can build a new north stand.
The redevelopment is about corporate income not more empty seats.
Haleeluya!!! Agree 1000% This is about a business model that will increase our playing budget year on year. Well done DC and all those like Alfred & Marvo who see the big picture. Who cares if the plans have changed a bit. They have only changed because we can get better facilities after the new planners worked thier magic!! BTW - It's all about the footy boys. Marquis was awesome today and I reckon Wycombe will be blown away by our vocal support.....bring it on  |
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CARDOZA - A clown, A fool, A charlaton. The destroyer of NTFC 1897 to 2015....ON HIS WATCH!!!!
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SteveRiches
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I can understand both points of view regarding use of the borrowed money but my worry is as follows:-
If we increase capacity to around 10,000 then it is a statement of intent about what happens on the field of play, and a commitment to improved footballing standards which will begin to fill the seats. If we spend the money instead on space for corporate entertaining, and events hire. and off-the-field income the other argument is that this extra income will eventually find its way back into improving the playing squad and thus the football on offer, and IF that happens then that's good too. My worry is this: Cardoza is desperate to sell the club should he get the right offer...extra seats do not make us a saleable asset, but off-the-field income stream does. Further, he needs to get his family's money back over a period of time if he can't sell up (and I have no problem with that, it's their money) then income from off-the-field activities can legally be diverted to the family's bank account, irrespective of what division we're in or whether or not the actual football is attractive for supporters. If I were to be Cardoza, having thrown millions of pounds at an attempt at reaching the Championship and getting it so wrong that we are facing the possibility of dropping out of the Football League, (God forbid and hopefully not) I'd be thinking "Why should I be spending this massive interest free one-off loan on more space for spectators watching higher league football when I've already messed that idea up on a regular basis? I'll create a situation instead where I can get that money back over a period of time from off-the-field income from a hotel, corporate and public room hire, and other commercial use of my leased space."
Maybe other posters are correct, that in fact he will invest most income on building a better playing side...but if I were to be him I'd no longer be altruistic or driven by a wish for better football, I'd be totally focused on grabbing back as much of my money as I could while what happens on the pitch is no longer central to plans.
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