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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #1020 on: April 16, 2014, 00:51:34 am »

Just to clarify out of the £12m £4.5m is being spent on the hotel and £7.5m on the new east stand and west stand refurbishments.

Source? Because if you're right something doesn't add up. Sc***horpe get a brand spanking new 12,500 capacity ground for 18 million. We get seven hundred seats and some boxes, for 7.5 million?
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« Reply #1021 on: April 16, 2014, 01:43:14 am »

£12 million is quiet a large sum for three Iso containers facing the wrong way.

Grin made me chuckle.  Think of them as like those beach front houses on stilts in Malibu but instead of views of the Pacific you get a KFC.

I'm sure due to the noise and influence of this board  Tongue there will be some detailed press releases soon to show everyone how exactly the money is being spent. Either that or DC will clarify at the next open forum.
Some of the comments are rather naughty but it does seem as though we are clearly holding some of the funds back or didn't get enough quotes! Whatever the split of £12m on the hotel and ground, not much appears to be going on the ground so far.
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« Reply #1022 on: April 16, 2014, 04:59:01 am »

I'll tell you what doesn't add up. One minute you get a poster on here claiming it will cost "millions" to increase the North Stand, then people seem to think you'd get a whole new ground for the same amount.

I don't mind you trying to destroy any optimism that may be left in the club but hey, try and stick to the same hymn sheet.
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« Reply #1023 on: April 16, 2014, 06:04:38 am »

Destroying optimism is what the club seems to be doing.
Look at it this way. Just a couple of weeks ago we were all told we'd finally be getting a stadium with a 5 figure capacity and a decent looking stand to compliment the West. Now they've let us find out for ourselves we're getting half a job, it'll look weird and and whatever odd bit of space is left over a few seats wedged in. But why should we expect finalised plans at this stage? ten years is no time at all to work out what you want to do.

Mr Clarke: are these revised plans what you fought for? Would you have tried so hard to get it gong of this is what we'd end up with? It just seems underwhelming and there is a sense that we've had the wool pulled over our eyes. They even made a video of what it'd be like!
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« Reply #1024 on: April 16, 2014, 06:45:52 am »

Cant believe the Chairman is going to waste this chance to create a decent Stadium. But then again i gave up believing what he said quite a while a go.
He is so full of BS.
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« Reply #1025 on: April 16, 2014, 07:01:29 am »

Mr Cardoza is playing his cards close to his chest at the moment...waiting to see what happens this season. The new planning application is stand alone without the East Stand. But there is no evidence of the large conference facility. So what is to happen with that? Dropped from the East Stand and to become part of the hotel? - which make sense! Permission still stands for the East - perhaps the plans for that are being revised to include seating and hospitality - but not as much building to the rear?

The west stand hospitality looks as though it is more of a directors lounge - so the hospitality boxes must still be planned for the east stand. However, the upper west seating is indicated on the plan as a void - but I guess that is an over simplification by the draughtsman.

I was under the impression that the East Stand roof was to be removed this season...but it is still there! So they are treading water at the moment - and all will be revealed soon no doubt!
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« Reply #1026 on: April 16, 2014, 08:10:30 am »

The east stand is being remodelled on the weird helmed in row of boxes at Luton! This really will be the final insult!

You don't need plans or drawings, just imagine a row of boxes on stilts peering over the east stand, that's what's in store for us!

Did Mackintosh and the shiny shovel crowd realise at the sod cutting ceremony that the plans were going to be blown out of the water within weeks without consultation with the end users and clients, us the tax payers!

I just hope the scuffling sound up SIxfields way is some serious back pedalling!
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« Reply #1027 on: April 16, 2014, 08:21:40 am »

The east stand is being remodelled on the weird helmed in row of boxes at Luton! This really will be the final insult!

You don't need plans or drawings, just imagine a row of boxes on stilts peering over the east stand, that's what's in store for us!

Did Mackintosh and the shiny shovel crowd realise at the sod cutting ceremony that the plans were going to be blown out of the water within weeks without consultation with the end users and clients, us the tax payers!

I just hope the scuffling sound up SIxfields way is some serious back pedalling!

That's the part I don't understand but one of you will. In any planning consultation (eg housing development), they have resubmit any changes and allow time for further challenge/let the NIMBYs voice concerns. Does this apply to all planning situations? If so I'd be surprised if at least the external plans have been allowed to be tinkered with at all.
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« Reply #1028 on: April 16, 2014, 09:00:43 am »

I wasn't impressed with the East stand to begin with, now I'm praying DC has another change of heart and goes back to just doing the East stand with some internal work on the West.
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« Reply #1029 on: April 16, 2014, 09:02:47 am »

12th Marquis of Sixfields "Mr Clarke: are these revised plans what you fought for? Would you have tried so hard to get it going if this is what we'd end up with?"

No.
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« Reply #1030 on: April 16, 2014, 09:05:57 am »

Uh oh.
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« Reply #1031 on: April 16, 2014, 09:07:28 am »

After waiting patiently for the club shop to open, I googled County Group as they have their banners up. I couldn't find much company info. Does anyone know much about them?
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« Reply #1032 on: April 16, 2014, 09:11:12 am »

After waiting patiently for the club shop to open, I googled County Group as they have their banners up. I couldn't find much company info. Does anyone know much about them?

I believe someone posted on here somewhere the other day stating they were set up by Cardoza and Daddy Cardoza.
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« Reply #1033 on: April 16, 2014, 09:13:30 am »

After waiting patiently for the club shop to open, I googled County Group as they have their banners up. I couldn't find much company info. Does anyone know much about them?

How many banners? Whats the going rate for a banner these days? About half a million quid?  Wink
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« Reply #1034 on: April 16, 2014, 09:15:46 am »

Here is something I don't remember being mentioned; What income will ntfc garner from the use of boxes at Coventry games?
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« Reply #1035 on: April 16, 2014, 09:17:47 am »

I believe someone posted on here somewhere the other day stating they were set up by Cardoza and Daddy Cardoza.
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« Reply #1036 on: April 16, 2014, 09:20:14 am »

Here is something I don't remember being mentioned; What income will ntfc garner from the use of boxes at Coventry games?

Erm.....depends how the contract was drawn up! If it was a percentage of gate receipts then we aren't doing very well out of it are we? If it was a flat rate of xxx per season then how could we change the contract? Maybe Cov will get an "enhanced" stadium for no additional increase in rent?
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« Reply #1037 on: April 16, 2014, 09:26:34 am »

I believe someone posted on here somewhere the other day stating they were set up by Cardoza and Daddy Cardoza.

I think that's poor speculation at best if not true. It doesn't seem to be a brand new company and a firm with an active interest from within the company getting the loan would get flagged pretty quickly. Well, you would have thought it would. People have gone to prison for less, so silly talk IMO.
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« Reply #1038 on: April 16, 2014, 09:32:27 am »

It's not speculation at all.

http://companycheck.co.uk/company/08589683/COUNTY-DEVELOPMENTS-NORTHAMPTON-LIMITED/directors-shareholders.
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« Reply #1039 on: April 16, 2014, 09:34:31 am »

I reckon you lot won't be happy until you've hounded our current owners out and we're back collecting money in buckets again.
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