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« Reply #1100 on: April 17, 2014, 18:44:17 pm »

Exactly. So short term DC can rip up submitted plans even before the ink dries.

With the current 5-10 year plan working so well what assurances have we that the club can make a success of the off field ventures? Based on the current cuisine served up at Sixfields I doubt Heston Blumenthal is losing any sleep.
This is why we need the extra seats as promised while the cash is available. We may have a poor side now but who knows what could happen. Maybe another concert etc. It's all about capacity whether that's for corporate arses or ours.
To give the club some credit, The executive restaurant is very good. Have only good things to say about it. The hospitality side in general is good if a little small. Hence the need for the extra space/Iso containers.
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« Reply #1101 on: April 17, 2014, 18:50:46 pm »

Looking at the plans for the west stand, the directors boxes as they are called are not traditional boxes where you watch out of a window.  They are effectively hosting areas for meals before and after a game.  These will be served by their own kitchen and toilets.  People using these facilities will then sit in special directors seats in the west stand upper tier pretty much as they do now.  

I spoke to someone at the club today who confirmed that the east stand will still have the hotel and conference centre attached.  But instead it will lose a few thousand planned seats to house 16 boxes which is nearly double the intended number.
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« Reply #1102 on: April 17, 2014, 18:58:09 pm »

 

I spoke to someone at the club today who confirmed that the east stand will still have the hotel and conference centre attached.  But instead it will lose a few thousand planned seats to house 16 boxes which is nearly double the intended number.

If the 16 new boxes are utilised every week then this makes sense, the extra couple of thousand seats would rarely be used in the near future barring a big FA Cup game. If they were filled once a season, would they make more than the boxes do throughout the season? I don't know. Obviously Cardoza believes that will be the case.

The thing I can't get my head round is this. The one person who stands to make anything out of this is the one person who doesn't believe the extra seats are that vital at this moment in time. If you're all right and he's wrong, it's his pocket that is going to be hit, not mine, not yours.
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« Reply #1103 on: April 17, 2014, 19:03:03 pm »

I'm sure the food served up is fine but what's the profit margin?

What is the club currently making on the executive restaurant?

2500 seats could potentially bring in £50k in one afternoon, you would have to be one very successful restaurant to come close to that in a month after costs.

20 years without even a cardboard box now there all over the place.

Stinks of knee jerk short term thinking exactly what has got us into this mess. If such a great business plan why was this not submitted to gain the finance?
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« Reply #1104 on: April 17, 2014, 19:11:22 pm »

It was nothing to do with NTFC even if Ballast Needham did offer to double the North & South on the cheap. It was , and still is , a council owned stadium.
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« Reply #1105 on: April 17, 2014, 19:40:52 pm »

Once these  sh1t looking boxes on stilts go in at the back of the east stand, that will be it for sixfields chance of ever looking like a proper stadium.

Our club has been mothballed for over a decade in the hope that we would get a decent fit for purpose stadium, but our golden opportunity has been destroyed by the chairman.

Our only hope is he goes and the Saints take pity and allow a ground share.
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« Reply #1106 on: April 17, 2014, 19:44:47 pm »

We`ll have Franklins Gardens when they move to M.K...
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« Reply #1107 on: April 17, 2014, 19:59:53 pm »

Once these  sh1t looking boxes on stilts go in at the back of the east stand, that will be it for sixfields chance of ever looking like a proper stadium.

Our club has been mothballed for over a decade in the hope that we would get a decent fit for purpose stadium, but our golden opportunity has been destroyed by the chairman.

Our only hope is he goes and the Saints take pity and allow a ground share.

Where did all this talk about boxes on stilts behind the east stand come from? Huh?
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« Reply #1108 on: April 17, 2014, 20:26:25 pm »

Where did all this talk about boxes on stilts behind the east stand come from? Huh?
If we are having West Stand boxes on stilts, why not the East as well? Bigger stilt discount if purchased in bulk.   Cheesy
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« Reply #1109 on: April 17, 2014, 20:27:16 pm »

If we are having West Stand boxes on stilts, why not the East as well? Bigger stilt discount if purchased in bulk.   Cheesy

Clarence will be on stilts next season if Cardoza has his way.
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« Reply #1110 on: April 17, 2014, 20:29:34 pm »

Clarence will be on stilts next season if Cardoza has his way.
So they can look each other in the eye..?
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« Reply #1111 on: April 17, 2014, 20:35:28 pm »

So they can look each other in the eye..?

Impossible as Cardoza will be looking out to Frankie and Bennys while Clarence will be housed in the East Stand.
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« Reply #1112 on: April 17, 2014, 20:40:19 pm »

It was nothing to do with NTFC even if Ballast Needham did offer to double the North & South on the cheap. It was , and still is , a council owned stadium.

Your right, for the benefit of the football club and the community. Now it's to become a private restaurant with a football club attached.

Flip flop Dave. The stadium was designed with expansion in mind we were told, footings are in place and the north, east and south stands roofs were designed to facilitate that. DC has decided to throw all that to the wind and squeeze in bits here, bits there with no co-ordination whatsoever.

The original plans submitted for the east look about right. The correct balance, but no, now the money is in the bag he's had another bright idea to stick hospitality anywhere he can. Another scattergun approach to our beloved now laughed at club.

He's messed up playing football boss now he's recouping what he can. As I said, this sudden U-turn is an exit strategy, Cardoza family damage limitation.

We never wanted rugby league, sharing with Coventry or Conference football, we just wanted a mildly successful football club to be proud of.
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« Reply #1113 on: April 17, 2014, 20:56:48 pm »

"Stilt Army!"
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« Reply #1114 on: April 17, 2014, 20:58:37 pm »

Your right, for the benefit of the football club and the community. Now it's to become a private restaurant with a football club attached.

Flip flop Dave. The stadium was designed with expansion in mind we were told, footings are in place and the north, east and south stands roofs were designed to facilitate that. DC has decided to throw all that to the wind and squeeze in bits here, bits there with no co-ordination whatsoever.

The original plans submitted for the east look about right. The correct balance, but no, now the money is in the bag he's had another bright idea to stick hospitality anywhere he can. Another scattergun approach to our beloved now laughed at club.

He's messed up playing football boss now he's recouping what he can. As I said, this sudden U-turn is an exit strategy, Cardoza family damage limitation.

We never wanted rugby league, sharing with Coventry or Conference football, we just wanted a mildly successful football club to be proud of.

Is your owner still a white van man(n)?
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« Reply #1115 on: April 17, 2014, 21:02:57 pm »

The worst thing about this is that the club don't seem to want to tell the fans what they are doing.  The speculation that it is causing is beyond insane.  The original plans for the east stand were clear and informative.  All we've heard is drip drops of second hand information.  I have no idea what half of you are talking about with your boxes on stilts behind the east stand and £12m restaurants.  As far as I'm aware the east stand is still happening but with extra boxes and less seating.  Conference and hotel facilities will still sit behind the east stand. The west stand will now have a major overhaul internally with a larger club shop, family bar and members bar.  Whether these will be accessible during half time I'm not sure. The directors and invitees will have new facilities, part of which will be in the new extension that will stick out of the back of the west stand on stilts.
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« Reply #1116 on: April 17, 2014, 21:39:29 pm »

The worst thing about this is that the club don't seem to want to tell the fans what they are doing.  The speculation that it is causing is beyond insane.  The original plans for the east stand were clear and informative.  All we've heard is drip drops of second hand information.  I have no idea what half of you are talking about with your boxes on stilts behind the east stand and £12m restaurants.  As far as I'm aware the east stand is still happening but with extra boxes and less seating.  Conference and hotel facilities will still sit behind the east stand. The west stand will now have a major overhaul internally with a larger club shop, family bar and members bar.  Whether these will be accessible during half time I'm not sure. The directors and invitees will have new facilities, part of which will be in the new extension that will stick out of the back of the west stand on stilts.

You forgot to add that you are the project manager of the build  Tongue

It's actually growing on me. We could easily end up with the quirkiest stadium in the country. Who wants to end up with one of those run of the mill bowl style grounds like Stadium MK, the Madjeski, the Ricoh and the Amex? They are so yesterday. All we need now is a new name. 'The house that Dave built' maybe.
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« Reply #1117 on: April 17, 2014, 22:16:59 pm »

We`ll have Franklins Gardens when they move to M.K...

Better idea still, we should just do a ground swap. We'll take the Gardens and they can take over Sixfields, a site which could house a 30,000 capacity stadium.
Can you imagine what the new Sixfields would look like if the rugger boys were in charge of drawing up the plans Grin
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« Reply #1118 on: April 17, 2014, 22:38:52 pm »

Better idea still, we should just do a ground swap. We'll take the Gardens and they can take over Sixfields, a site which could house a 30,000 capacity stadium.
Can you imagine what the new Sixfields would look like if the rugger boys were in charge of drawing up the plans Grin

It would never happen but it would actually make a lot of sense for both parties.
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« Reply #1119 on: April 18, 2014, 07:07:20 am »

Is your owner still a white van man(n)?

 Grin His drivings a bit ruff too! When ever I see a pile up I sing "You've been watching Aidy Mann"

Not as ruff as stadium Dave though  Embarrassed
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