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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #19840 on: September 20, 2017, 20:09:05 pm »

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« Reply #19841 on: September 20, 2017, 20:11:08 pm »

Being able to guarantee tickets to liverpool man utd city chelsea etc and local games this season v Blackburn blackpool shows me  good business practice.
Are you saying its better to offer liverpool just 940 tickets in a tiny ground? You're the 2nd person I've heard recently making a case for zero growth being a good thing.
If you have extra capacity you can sell tickets and raise income.
 Maybe thats why they are, Wigan pop 100,000 are striving to get into the championship and us, Northampton pop 220,000 desperately trying to avoid relegation?

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« Reply #19842 on: September 20, 2017, 20:12:39 pm »

You really do contradict yourself. The mark of somebody, who isnt quite sure what he is saying, is that he cant remember the last thing that he said. If I were you David, I would stop digging that hole that you find yourself in. Because it will only get a lot deeper.


No, clearly missing his irony methinks!
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« Reply #19843 on: September 20, 2017, 20:26:52 pm »

No, clearly missing his irony methinks!
Think what you want. I know what I think. And I am more likely to be correct than you are.
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« Reply #19844 on: September 20, 2017, 20:50:26 pm »

After 2 years it must be time to afford the supporters of Northampton town a little respect and tell us what his plans are and what we can expect, ' finishing the east' and 'complicated land  negotiations' have worn thin.



So you badmouth a man for the last year knowing very little of actual finances of running a football club and the inheirited problems (but plenty of simplistic guess work) and you deserve some respect from him
Your ridiculous sense of entitlement is actually quite sad.
Sure we would all like things to progress quicker, bigger and faster with more communication but guess what in the real world that probably won't happen - also, and paradoxically people like you actually suppress open communication because the simplistic way you complain and criticize takes into no account of the complexities that can befall any promise.
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« Reply #19845 on: September 21, 2017, 06:11:25 am »

At the risk of over simplifying this thread and re igniting the flames, there seems to be 2 thoughts on the increase of capacity. One being build it and they will come, and one being be successful / play good football and they will come.

Interestingly last night, DW stadium holds 25,000 and last nights attendance was 7700. They could all fit into Sixfields and still have a few seats spare

Yes very interesting if you're on a wind-up or you're just being a cunt for the sake of it?

Wigans average home attendance last season 11,722 where would the other 4,000 fuckers have sat last season? That's an average remember, did Uni teach you averages? They also scooped over a million quid net on the corporate suites and matchday hospitality in facilities Sixfields does not have, I suppose they could use the car park instead?

That sort of answers your question over capacity, you need both, some success and the ability to accommodate as many glory hunters as you can when they arrive.

Northampton playing in the Championship I'm sure would average similarly to Wigan, if either were at all possible.
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« Reply #19846 on: September 21, 2017, 06:34:54 am »

Northampton needs a bigger football stadium if we are to move forward and become sustained at even this or a higher level, 10,000 is the bare minimum with exec boxes.
I also think it high time KT gave us an update on the East stand because the PowerPoint kids last effort was not only patronising but quite simply embarrassing..
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« Reply #19847 on: September 21, 2017, 06:44:30 am »

It is time for a proper update from the Chairman.  If NBC is sitting on its hands then let him tell us so and why his hands are tied. 

As for the build or not build debate, I wonder on what basis new hotels are built on greenfield sites. Is it because the punters are sleeping in the fields or because there is an identifiable demand?
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« Reply #19848 on: September 21, 2017, 06:52:26 am »

Agree with the above comments.This is now dragging on and on.I am sure KT wants work to be started more than anyone but an up to date statement explaining what is holding up commencement so we are in the picture would be appreciated.
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« Reply #19849 on: September 21, 2017, 07:10:15 am »

Yes very interesting if you're on a wind-up or you're just being a cunt for the sake of it?

Wigans average home attendance last season 11,722 where would the other 4,000 fuckers have sat last season? That's an average remember, did Uni teach you averages? They also scooped over a million quid net on the corporate suites and matchday hospitality in facilities Sixfields does not have, I suppose they could use the car park instead?

That sort of answers your question over capacity, you need both, some success and the ability to accommodate as many glory hunters as you can when they arrive.

Northampton playing in the Championship I'm sure would average similarly to Wigan, if either were at all possible.
The point I have made in the past, and the point I was trying to make in a bad way above, is that just by having a big stadium doesn't mean you get large crowds, extra revenue and therefore championship football. If / when we get into the championship we will need a bigger ground, no one (I don't think) is disputing that. Where I believe is the money is better spent on the squad, that brings the success and promotions and that in turn brings the money to develop the ground.
You may well be correct that they averaged 11,722 last season in the championship but what will they average this season? My guess will be 8-9k. At the start of last season I posted the averages for each league, the difference between League 2 to League 1 was only a small increase 4752 -> 7933. When you get into the championship its a huge increase 20119. Comparing their averages last season and this season doesn't really work.

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« Reply #19850 on: September 21, 2017, 07:39:38 am »

So you badmouth a man for the last year knowing very little of actual finances of running a football club and the inheirited problems (but plenty of simplistic guess work) and you deserve some respect from him
Your ridiculous sense of entitlement is actually quite sad.
Sure we would all like things to progress quicker, bigger and faster with more communication but guess what in the real world that probably won't happen - also, and paradoxically people like you actually suppress open communication because the simplistic way you complain and criticize takes into no account of the complexities that can befall any promise.
Its because the solution to our on going problem is so simplistic that non activity or information to the clubs supporters  not being forthcoming is adding to the problem?
Im not enjoying asking questions of the chairman who is down playing our need for immediate  investment into our infrastructure,  it should be the trust hammering on his door demanding action but they have lost their voices.
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« Reply #19851 on: September 21, 2017, 07:49:52 am »

Depends how you're funding it. If you're borrowing money to build the stadium then yes, it being empty is going to be a problem if the ticket revenue doesn't cover your debts.
Small and sustainable, that way those without the appetite to do anything cant hide behind their ridiculous scare mongering  over exagerations to avoid doing anything.
Small and sustainable development one area at a time, involving all our fan base and catchment to grow interest in the clubs progress.

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« Reply #19852 on: September 21, 2017, 08:21:08 am »

Im not enjoying asking questions of the chairman who is down playing our need for immediate  investment into our infrastructure,  it should be the trust hammering on his door demanding action but they have lost their voices.

its just a shame you don't actually ask him any questions, but instead just ramble on this forum continuously, when no-one here has the answers for you.
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« Reply #19853 on: September 21, 2017, 08:26:25 am »

The club reads this website FACT
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« Reply #19854 on: September 21, 2017, 08:33:52 am »

its just a shame you don't actually ask him any questions, but instead just ramble on this forum continuously, when no-one here has the answers for you.

Im not taking sides here but asking KT anything direct is a complete and utter waste of time. I've tried it!

He is the most skilful person I've ever met at being able to avoid answering the question with anything that resembles a direct answer. Better than any politician!

Every 'tough question' is met with legal/confidentiality type excuses to avoid answering it. As well as the 'over promise, under delivery' line that is trotted out to excellent effect to the masses!  Grin

I do think he's a good 'un though and will sort the ground out at some point. The business plan of spending way above our means on players must have a positive end game target given the monies involved. Otherwise it would make zero sense. Our investors certainly are not in it for egotisitcal purposes, otherwise they would be shouting from the rooftops! Instead of being very very low profile…
 
So Im pretty chilled about it. But suggesting that people ask him questions direct is pointless!
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« Reply #19855 on: September 21, 2017, 08:40:42 am »

At the risk of over simplifying this thread and re igniting the flames, there seems to be 2 thoughts on the increase of capacity. One being build it and they will come, and one being be successful / play good football and they will come.

Interestingly last night, DW stadium holds 25,000 and last nights attendance was 7700. They could all fit into Sixfields and still have a few seats spare

Sorry to dredge up a relatively old post (first time I've been on here in a while), but Sixfields could not have hosted Tuesdays game.

Sixfields capacity:7,798
So home capacity (with no south mixing): 7,798 - 900 South Stand = ~6898

Attendance at Wigan:7777-292away =  7,485 home fans

So to match that attendance and assuming no away / home mixing in south end we would need to increase capcity to 8,385.
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« Reply #19856 on: September 21, 2017, 09:42:06 am »

The chairman is on record as saying we will see east stand development April/May 2018 and that it's not economically feasible to knock it down and start again, and that what we'll end up with will be nowhere close to an ideal vision of that side of the ground BUT will be better than what we have.
If he does not deliver on it then that's the time to protest.
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« Reply #19857 on: September 21, 2017, 10:04:33 am »

The chairman is on record as saying we will see east stand development April/May 2018 and that it's not economically feasible to knock it down and start again, and that what we'll end up with will be nowhere close to an ideal vision of that side of the ground BUT will be better than what we have.
If he does not deliver on it then that's the time to protest.

Agreed and if it doesn't happen then I agree he needs to be held to account

Beds, you state "small & sustainable" so one will assume if the above promise does materialize you will praise it for what it is and not start banging on about it only adding a few boxes and a few hundred extra seats....lack of ambition etc etc.
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« Reply #19858 on: September 21, 2017, 11:45:08 am »

Interview with KT in FC Business mag here. 'Some of the investment will go to finishing off the stand'.

From about page 20 onwards

https://cloud.3dissue.com/6374/7271/131371/fcbusiness104/index.html
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« Reply #19859 on: September 21, 2017, 12:21:39 pm »

Agreed and if it doesn't happen then I agree he needs to be held to account

Beds, you state "small & sustainable" so one will assume if the above promise does materialize you will praise it for what it is and not start banging on about it only adding a few boxes and a few hundred extra seats....lack of ambition etc etc.
once we actually see the elusive Thomas plans , what the cost will be to our club,  will they give excellent value for money and not just some boxes and restaurant costing 3 to 4 million of unsubstantiated and unsustainable debt dumped on us... I doubt this lot have ever built up a stadium before so an option for the end users to have a say as to whats preferable as  from the few crumbs of info and insistance to finishing the stand adjacent to the holy grail, Sixfields footprint.. I suspect we need to keep our eyes wide open.
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