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« Reply #21980 on: June 12, 2018, 07:40:27 am »

capacity is capacity regardless of being seated or standing?
Keeping 900 seats as seen now but with extra terracing built behind...
The only time someone got the costings spectacularly wrong was when it was first mooted that putting 1800 plastic chairs back in would cost half a million and then reduced to 250,000 infact it was nearer 54k.

Its blatantly obvious what I propose is our only hope of ever moving forward so you're  "no can do' scaremongering has been proved just that by tiny clubs like Maidstone doing exactly what you said couldnt happen😂😂 and believe me as a QS these past 30 years, my figures are pretty much spot on.

I thought having an atmospheric professional looking stadium was just as important to you?
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« Reply #21981 on: June 12, 2018, 07:44:25 am »


Keeping 900 seats as seen now but with extra terracing built behind...
Genuine question... Do you have any examples of grounds that have this set up? I'm struggling to picture how it wont make our ground look more non league than it apparently does now
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« Reply #21982 on: June 12, 2018, 07:48:00 am »

capacity is capacity regardless of being seated or standing?
Keeping 900 seats as seen now but with extra terracing built behind...
The only time someone got the costings spectacularly wrong was when it was first mooted that putting 1800 plastic chairs back in would cost half a million and then reduced to 250,000 infact it was nearer 54k.

Its blatantly obvious what I propose is our only hope of ever moving forward so you're  "no can do' scaremongering has been proved just that by tiny clubs like Maidstone doing exactly what you said couldnt happen😂😂 and believe me as a QS these past 30 years, my figures are pretty much spot on.

Seating is passé and the direction of travel is definitely towards mixed provision stadia (see Spurs huge safe standing provision in their new stadium). A standing North Stand with an imposing 'end' would bring so much in terms of atmosphere and quite possibly in reducing entry prices while also keeping healthy revenues by increasing capacity. It's a win win that club owners and the football establishment are quickly realising now.

I'm pretty sure Kelvin Thomas has been to Maidstone and seen that stand actually but again in the near future we will see his and Bower's intentions on the stadium. The line on no business sense for an increase in capacity is open to debate.

Often hear that the ground would be quite tidy with the North and south 'done' and the East completed to something like Cardoza's original visuals (not the current joke design). All of that should be viable over time and a true test of the credentials of whoever is running the club.
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« Reply #21983 on: June 12, 2018, 07:50:16 am »

Genuine question... Do you have any examples of grounds that have this set up? I'm struggling to picture how it wont make our ground look more non league than it apparently does now

Absolutely no need for seating in front of the stand. East and West will provide more than enough seating options. The race will be to produce the best safe standing home end across football. Safe standing areas will be oversubscribed too.
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« Reply #21984 on: June 12, 2018, 08:31:51 am »

I thought having an atmospheric professional looking stadium was just as important to you?
Absolutely, football is pure drama and needs to housed in an appropriate theatre.
The back drop of  banks of vociferous supporters will enhance the atmosphere no end, that then encourages more to visit.
Basic and obvious stuff really..
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« Reply #21985 on: June 12, 2018, 08:50:19 am »

Absolutely no need for seating in front of the stand. East and West will provide more than enough seating options. The race will be to produce the best safe standing home end across football. Safe standing areas will be oversubscribed too.
Costs dictates that the seats are left exactly where they are, also being the away end, you need to make provisions that allow less able fans to be seated. Areas of terracing built up behind can cater for those who wish to stand and create a big match atmosphere.
Benefits are that while in league 1 you can divide and have a shared south stand and use the overflow for extra visitors if available.
Expanding the North in the same manner can commence  at a later date in readiness for the Championship.
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« Reply #21986 on: June 12, 2018, 09:08:01 am »

This is amazing.
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« Reply #21987 on: June 12, 2018, 09:26:50 am »

This is amazing.

If and its and IF KT could make 10 million from the land (total hypothetic question) what would your expectations be in terms of what 'we' get out of it?
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« Reply #21988 on: June 12, 2018, 09:28:47 am »

If and its and IF KT could make 10 million from the land (total hypothetic question) what would your expectations be in terms of what 'we' get out of it?

Enough to finish the East Stand?
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« Reply #21989 on: June 12, 2018, 09:51:30 am »

This is amazing.

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« Reply #21990 on: June 12, 2018, 09:56:11 am »

Costs dictates that the seats are left exactly where they are, also being the away end, you need to make provisions that allow less able fans to be seated. Areas of terracing built up behind can cater for those who wish to stand and create a big match atmosphere.
Benefits are that while in league 1 you can divide and have a shared south stand and use the overflow for extra visitors if available.
Expanding the North in the same manner can commence  at a later date in readiness for the Championship.

Not sure why you are quoting me there talking about the away end when I am talking about the home end. Let's talk about specific costs when they are actually produced. I've actually lost track of this thread now lol.

Oh yeah the ground could probably be expanded a bit and just waiting to hear what Thomas & Bower's plans are going forward. That's about the long and short of it.
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« Reply #21991 on: June 12, 2018, 09:58:07 am »

Enough to finish the East Stand?

Be good to have a clear costing of how much it would cost to demolish and rebuild. Or even take off the Cardoza effort stuck on?
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« Reply #21992 on: June 12, 2018, 10:00:32 am »

Just a note of caution. Assuming the council give the go ahead for the lease issue to be resolved and reverted to NTFC, this is purely giving their legal team the green light to sort it.

How long it will take their legals to actually pull their fingers out is another thing.
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« Reply #21993 on: June 12, 2018, 10:01:09 am »

Enough to finish the East Stand?

But, completed to what specifications? Let us not forget that one of the reasons NBC agreed the MoU with KT's group (which included clearing us of the 10 million debt): "They have funds in place and intend to complete the stand."
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« Reply #21994 on: June 12, 2018, 10:17:01 am »

If and its and IF KT could make 10 million from the land (total hypothetic question) what would your expectations be in terms of what 'we' get out of it?

I'd forget executive boxes for now. I question the payback, unless a decent hotel is built on the doorstep and then that could have conference facilities itself.
I'd double the capacity of the North and make it all safe standing. Whack a load of extra seats in the East and finish it so it doesn't feel as though you are visiting Beirut. This would allow extra away allocation if/when required. Probably enough to get us to 11k+.
If the lease is resolved and there is no land to be had then I'd be happy if he just finishes the stand. His £4m should do that very comfortably. 
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« Reply #21995 on: June 12, 2018, 10:20:38 am »

Be good to have a clear costing of how much it would cost to demolish and rebuild. Or even take off the Cardoza effort stuck on?

As long as the overall is no more than £4m, that is all that he indicated is/was available and 'promised' when taking the club.
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« Reply #21996 on: June 12, 2018, 10:47:59 am »

As long as the overall is no more than £4m, that is all that he indicated is/was available and 'promised' when taking the club.

He was quite clear that he/they had the funds in place. And that development of land was not necessary. So if he gets a bonus in that area down the line then would you expect him to spend it for the benefit of NTFC?

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« Reply #21997 on: June 12, 2018, 10:53:27 am »

He was quite clear that he/they had the funds in place. And that development of land was not necessary. So if he gets a bonus in that area down the line then would you expect him to spend it for the benefit of NTFC?



If it's in NTFC's name yes, at the moment it isn't?
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« Reply #21998 on: June 13, 2018, 12:10:39 pm »

Tonight's the night then people...

Hopefully, once lease issue is finally resolve, the club will perhaps issue a statement saying the club is no longer for sale? and plans will shortly be published for what the East
Stand will finally look like...

Just want the monstrosity finished so we ain't gotta look at it in it's current embarrassing state...
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« Reply #21999 on: June 13, 2018, 12:33:22 pm »

Tonight's the night then people...

Hopefully, once lease issue is finally resolve, the club will perhaps issue a statement saying the club is no longer for sale? and plans will shortly be published for what the East
Stand will finally look like...

Just want the monstrosity finished so we ain't gotta look at it in it's current embarrassing state...

Tonight isn't when NBC will have done the legals. Tonight is just confirming that the legals can go ahead. The ball is in NBC's court until their legal team sort out the lease.
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