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« Reply #22480 on: July 11, 2018, 17:34:59 pm »

Only trying to get the £2m as this was what the Cardoza's took out themselves. Assume the rest hopefully will be part of the police investigation and 'easier' for the them to say they haven't got it although they should be ultimately responsible

The alleged £20m offer again shows how valuable the land is and why I am annoyed that NTFC will not really benefit from it but outsiders who pay peanuts and don't do what is expected of them, at least DC pumped £4-5m into club at one stage.
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« Reply #22481 on: July 11, 2018, 22:27:33 pm »

Only trying to get the £2m as this was what the Cardoza's took out themselves. Assume the rest hopefully will be part of the police investigation and 'easier' for the them to say they haven't got it although they should be ultimately responsible

The alleged £20m offer again shows how valuable the land is and why I am annoyed that NTFC will not really benefit from it but outsiders who pay peanuts and don't do what is expected of them, at least DC pumped £4-5m into club at one stage.


In there's where the problem is with you... You latch on to any sniff off shyte you can. Anything that backs your vitriolic crusade. An alleged offer shows how much the land is worth 😀😀😀. It doesn't even exist and your on it. Then... You go on to praise Cardoza. Ever thought of counselling? 😀
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« Reply #22482 on: July 11, 2018, 23:54:46 pm »

In there's where the problem is with you... You latch on to any sniff off shyte you can. Anything that backs your vitriolic crusade. An alleged offer shows how much the land is worth 😀😀😀. It doesn't even exist and your on it. Then... You go on to praise Cardoza. Ever thought of counselling? 😀

Counselling ! I fear your advice maybe too late.
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« Reply #22483 on: July 12, 2018, 09:12:15 am »

In there's where the problem is with you... You latch on to any sniff off shyte you can. Anything that backs your vitriolic crusade. An alleged offer shows how much the land is worth . It doesn't even exist and your on it. Then... You go on to praise Cardoza. Ever thought of counselling?

It's a bit of a worry - you, me and Evers all agreeing on something!
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« Reply #22484 on: July 12, 2018, 12:55:44 pm »

Seems best to follow https://twitter.com/Paul_theChron and https://twitter.com/tombarton  today as Matt Precey is not ther today.  It's also closing statements today. I don't know how it works after that in terms of the Judge making a decision.  NBC are after £2m from Anthony Cardoza and £1m in damages.
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« Reply #22485 on: July 12, 2018, 13:10:46 pm »

The two people I want to see in court are Grossman and Mackintosh .
I understand why they have not been pursued in this case against the Cardozas but letís hope to God they are brought to trial by the police .
Quite clearly the Cardozas feel betrayed by Grossman and I would love to see their dirty washing made public .
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« Reply #22486 on: July 12, 2018, 13:58:46 pm »

The two people I want to see in court are Grossman and Mackintosh .
I understand why they have not been pursued in this case against the Cardozas but letís hope to God they are brought to trial by the police .
Quite clearly the Cardozas feel betrayed by Grossman and I would love to see their dirty washing made public .


I suspect Grossman is far too slippery to ever be held responsible - Mackintosh, I suspect was playing well out of his league and could be hung out to dry (if guilty of course!)
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« Reply #22487 on: July 12, 2018, 16:56:15 pm »

The two people I want to see in court are Grossman and Mackintosh .
I understand why they have not been pursued in this case against the Cardozas but letís hope to God they are brought to trial by the police .
Quite clearly the Cardozas feel betrayed by Grossman and I would love to see their dirty washing made public .

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« Reply #22488 on: July 13, 2018, 09:31:11 am »

Again please exercise caution when commenting on this issue. Live police investigation still ongoing. Speculation more likely to cause more harm than good. Don't give anyone potentially charged an opportunity to say they will not get a fair trial because of accusations on social media. The QC is doing a good job in the civil case of uncovering detail and the police will want a result.
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« Reply #22489 on: July 13, 2018, 13:30:35 pm »

Again please exercise caution when commenting on this issue. Live police investigation still ongoing. Speculation more likely to cause more harm than good. Don't give anyone potentially charged an opportunity to say they will not get a fair trial because of accusations on social media. The QC is doing a good job in the civil case of uncovering detail and the police will want a result.

Perhaps Admin can use their discretion on this issue and remove/caution those posts which might cause issues - in their judgement.
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« Reply #22490 on: July 13, 2018, 15:19:23 pm »

https://twitter.com/juliansturdy1/status/1017775012735053831

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« Reply #22491 on: July 13, 2018, 16:31:59 pm »

Judgement not expected before September.
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« Reply #22492 on: July 13, 2018, 18:02:58 pm »

The problem is that it would appear that from a legal standpoint he has done nothing wrong. Morally he is the scum of the earth, but morals don't have any legal standing. He is obviously adept at the money moving scams, based on how many companies he has formed and disolved.
Yes but it is illegal to take on business knowing that your own business is going under as a director .
Itís also illegal to pay monies that are for no apparent reason .
I donít want to jeopardise anything and so will leave it at that .
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« Reply #22493 on: July 13, 2018, 18:33:09 pm »

Yes but it is illegal to take on business knowing that your own business is going under as a director .
It’s also illegal to pay monies that are for no apparent reason .
I don’t want to jeopardise anything and so will leave it at that .

The problem with that is you must prove intent and forethought to obtain a conviction. Paying monies with no apparent reason is covered by "consultation fees".
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« Reply #22494 on: July 13, 2018, 19:21:44 pm »

The problem with that is you must prove intent and forethought to obtain a conviction. Paying monies with no apparent reason is covered by "consultation fees".
To a company called "County Cemetery Services" when you are building a football stand ?  Maybe that's where they've buried the money  Smiley
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« Reply #22495 on: July 13, 2018, 23:50:52 pm »

The problem with that is you must prove intent and forethought to obtain a conviction. Paying monies with no apparent reason is covered by "consultation fees".
Thatís exactly right. Therefore unfortunately it doesnít matter what you believe, it only matters what you can prove. Proving intent and forethought in fraud cases is notoriously complex and difficult, hence the length of time and effort required to build a case.
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« Reply #22496 on: July 14, 2018, 12:07:12 pm »

Interesting the Cardoza's QC states they sold the club for a pound.
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« Reply #22497 on: July 14, 2018, 13:42:08 pm »

That was common knowledge wasn't it.
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« Reply #22498 on: July 14, 2018, 16:06:25 pm »

That was common knowledge wasn't it.

I thought so.
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« Reply #22499 on: July 16, 2018, 12:45:41 pm »

Same goes on this thread and the whole site.... All posts that suggest, or directly imply that a crime has occurred are going to get deleted. I have dealt with some of these guys solicitors before. They will definitely be watching, and they will definitely pursue you. No ridiculous alleged or apparently comment either. I'd steer well clear of it all.     
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