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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #22940 on: September 15, 2018, 19:52:37 pm »

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I love a rumour. Difference is some people seem to take rumours as fact.

Some also think that if they keep repeating the same Bollocks it magically becomes FACT.
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« Reply #22941 on: September 15, 2018, 21:59:03 pm »

No more desperate than the 1000+ pages of this thread. Or Twitter shyte, or Facebook cr@p. Take your pick.

The desperation comes, when people really believe they are listened to anywhere other than in their own head.
The desperation to believe a rumour is born from lack of information which is being withheld on a need to know basis..ie we the supporters of Northampton town need not know what Thomas and co are up to, so we guess and  have probably guessed right😉
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« Reply #22942 on: September 15, 2018, 22:13:17 pm »

The desperation to believe a rumour is born from lack of information which is being withheld on a need to know basis..ie we the supporters of Northampton town need not know what Thomas and co are up to, so we guess and  have probably guessed right😉

No. Apparently YOU need to know. I don't need to know.
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« Reply #22943 on: September 15, 2018, 23:52:53 pm »

The desperation to believe a rumour is born from lack of information which is being withheld on a need to know basis..ie we the supporters of Northampton town need not know what Thomas and co are up to, so we guess and  have probably guessed right😉

I'm pretty sure if you fire enough bullets sooner or later you’ll hit the target.
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« Reply #22944 on: September 16, 2018, 08:18:18 am »

No more desperate than the 1000+ pages of this thread. Or Twitter shyte, or Facebook cr@p. Take your pick.

The desperation comes, when people really believe they are listened to anywhere other than in their own head.
Probably wouldn’t be a 1000+ if you hadn’t contributed so often  Grin
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« Reply #22945 on: September 16, 2018, 10:12:18 am »

Probably wouldn’t be a 1000+ if you hadn’t contributed so often  Grin

Well.. your post ratio is already higher than mine.

I never mentioned how often you post. My comment was about how serious you take yourself, or whether or not you have idea what’s actually going on. I’m the first to admit I know nothing about the East stand, any takeover, or indeed running a football club.

I’m a supporter of NTFC. Nothing more..
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« Reply #22946 on: September 17, 2018, 07:03:20 am »

If there was a takeover would you want a partnership a la 5 U Sports and KT as chairman or a new broom?
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« Reply #22947 on: September 17, 2018, 07:11:13 am »

Probably wouldn’t be a 1000+ if you hadn’t contributed so often  Grin

You are on thin ice with that throw away comment!
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« Reply #22948 on: September 17, 2018, 07:43:21 am »

If there was a takeover would you want a partnership a la 5 U Sports and KT as chairman or a new broom?

I would want a new broom, I don't think KT is interested, we need someone in who wants to take us on to develop a club and not have anything to do with the surrounding land.
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« Reply #22949 on: September 17, 2018, 07:58:07 am »

I would want a new broom, I don't think KT is interested, we need someone in who wants to take us on to develop a club and not have anything to do with the surrounding land.

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Do you really think someone would come in just to develop the club with no interest in any land? You've got no chance mate.
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« Reply #22950 on: September 17, 2018, 08:15:03 am »

Grin Grin

Do you really think someone would come in just to develop the club with no interest in any land? You've got no chance mate.

I really hope I am wrong and just thinking the worst, but I think KT and partners wanted the leases for the lands around and not the club, they have them now so are just looking to off load us. So whoever takes it on will not have the land around to develop. In which case we get someone who has a death wish and wants to own a football club, or we as fans have to do something with fan ownership.
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« Reply #22951 on: September 17, 2018, 08:22:36 am »

If I had a spare £10m, I wouldn't 'invest' in any football club unless I was prepared to not see it again.
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« Reply #22952 on: September 17, 2018, 08:24:43 am »

I really hope I am wrong and just thinking the worst, but I think KT and partners wanted the leases for the lands around and not the club, they have them now so are just looking to off load us. So whoever takes it on will not have the land around to develop. In which case we get someone who has a death wish and wants to own a football club, or we as fans have to do something with fan ownership.
If so the council have done a great job again for the club
Firstly lend £10M without the correct checks and then sell off the clubs assets to someone without redeveloping the ground.
This leaves the club with no land assets and a in a position worse than when the ground opened a couple of decades back?

Is this right?
Surely it can’t be?
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« Reply #22953 on: September 17, 2018, 09:11:34 am »

Shoey, it is just me guessing, I don't have any reason to believe that is the case, I am just suggesting a reason why the next owner may be someone who would be in it for the football not the land around.
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« Reply #22954 on: September 17, 2018, 09:30:48 am »

Shoey, it is just me guessing, I don't have any reason to believe that is the case, I am just suggesting a reason why the next owner may be someone who would be in it for the football not the land around.

Any sale will include the football club and the land. No one in their right minds would purchase the football club alone.
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« Reply #22955 on: September 17, 2018, 09:42:20 am »

If I had a spare £10m, I wouldn't 'invest' in any football club unless I was prepared to not see it again.

This is the point which so many people miss. The word 'investment' should never be used when it comes to football, certainly not below the top few spots in the premier league thats for sure. And even at that level, to compete with their rivals they have to spend 100million plus these days on a single player!

For me, Id like us to either go down the local consortium route (I know its not been successful in the past but perhaps it would if we had someone like Stephen Griggs involved in it for the hobby), my 2nd option would be fan owned. I certainly wouldn't put my name forward to become a director though, I've a clean credit rating and want it to stay that way! And that there lies the problem that those who want that to happen do not really consider. Running a business without any real idea as to what the income levels are going to be is nigh on impossible, and budgeting at the low end would ultimately mean a crap team! And then low gates, low income, relegation etc would follow suit.

If KT is trying to off load the club, and not the land...any individual would have to stomach a million pound loss just to get through this season. Why would they do that? Im not making that number up, thats what he told me and its quite obvious really given the players we have on the books.

I suspect he will flog the whole lot to someone and they can get a kick back off of the land. Whether the Football Club benefits from it, it all depends on who the individual/group is. And its totally out of our hands.

Id be very surprised if KT does anything with the ground himself; I've maintained that ever since the Chinese debacle. People need to accept that until the ownership issue is resolved, then we are in limbo. To be fair to KT, he also sanctioned a handful of signings in the summer, including a few quid to buy a striker. He hasn't neglected the team. The damage was done when the Chinese money was spent on a load of expensive donkey's who we are now stuck with.

These last 2 years cannot be blamed on lack of investment. Just extremely poor management.

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« Reply #22956 on: September 17, 2018, 10:07:05 am »

So in a nutshell the club without the land is free to a good home. Substantial running costs and next to no assets. Don’t all rush at once.
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« Reply #22957 on: September 17, 2018, 10:10:12 am »

We remain a good project for someone minted who fancies a hobby. Just need to hire competent staff for it to tick over.

Still, ruins are cheaper to buy so you'll see more interest if we go to the wall. But I guess league status has some value.

I agree Shane that the consortium route or fan ownership seem sensible but both are yet to show their hands. Losses will be a stumbling block.

There are various reasons why people acquire clubs, an investment is just one you'll have to use your imagination for the rest.

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« Reply #22958 on: September 17, 2018, 10:59:28 am »

That's the reason why KT (or anyone) will not purchase or spend a substantial amount on the club until they have a means to at least get some sort of return on the outlay. (in the current case the land).  I don't know how much KT has already put into the club, but it is a reasonable guess that it is more than the £4m that was mentioned when he took over.
If/when the land is confirmed, I anticipate that he will either sell it with the land or immediately develop it in order to start getting some of his outlay returned, or at least to arrest the current outgoings.
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« Reply #22959 on: September 17, 2018, 11:35:56 am »

So you’re saying in the event of the club being sold the land will go with it as a package
That’s a relief as I was concerned KT could get planning permission for the land start building on it and basically wash his hands of the club.

My mind is at rest.......
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