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« Reply #23840 on: January 11, 2019, 00:39:16 am »

So you would prefer Sixfields to Fratton Park? No, didn't think so!  Wink

Fratton park is a dump

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« Reply #23841 on: January 11, 2019, 02:13:59 am »

Fratton park is a dump



Sixfields is a dump, if you turn left at that T-junction roundabout.... you know the one I mean.
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« Reply #23842 on: January 11, 2019, 07:08:53 am »

As far as I know they had a couple in 2016 and, maybe another after that, the attendances after the first two were down to less than 20, none were held in 2018 to my knowledge. It's such an obvious move to try and under mind the Trust, I think its NTFC clutching at straws  Sad

thanks for the info, also demonstrates the apathy of the support base and the significant challenge any group may have in galvanising it for a different ownership model or anything else.
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« Reply #23843 on: January 11, 2019, 10:47:30 am »

thanks for the info, also demonstrates the apathy of the support base and the significant challenge any group may have in galvanising it for a different ownership model or anything else.
All apathy has been born out of 20 years of Cardoza and Thomas's inability to show the slightest improvements to our stadium and the progress of our football club.
It could very easily be reversed.
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« Reply #23844 on: January 11, 2019, 10:54:50 am »

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/fans_panel_feb2019/

"All supporters welcome to attend". 
An opportunity for all, I am sure that enough notice has been provided for those who would like to attend to do so and express their view and opinion directly especially as it will be post the transfer window?
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« Reply #23845 on: January 11, 2019, 10:59:32 am »

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/fans_panel_feb2019/

"All supporters welcome to attend". 
An opportunity for all, I am sure that enough notice has been provided for those who would like to attend to do so and express their view and opinion directly especially as it will be post the transfer window?
Could be an interesting evening as we will know what the clubs intent has been with regard to the playing side by then. Hopefully be able to find out a bit more about the off field ideas the club has.
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« Reply #23846 on: January 11, 2019, 13:32:49 pm »

Sixfields is a dump, if you turn left at that T-junction roundabout.... you know the one I mean.
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Compared with quite a few L2 and even some L1 grounds we are an acceptable "dump". Have you been to Fratton Park or Luton for that matter? They are real dumps and at Fratton Park the toilets are so old fashioned you literally stand in rivers of urine. That's if you can reach them in the first case. As for amenities at both they are terrible. Frankly you are speaking out of your backside.
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« Reply #23847 on: January 11, 2019, 13:55:47 pm »

Compared with quite a few L2 and even some L1 grounds we are an acceptable "dump". Have you been to Fratton Park or Luton for that matter? They are real dumps and at Fratton Park the toilets are so old fashioned you literally stand in rivers of urine. That's if you can reach them in the first case. As for amenities at both they are terrible. Frankly you are speaking out of your backside.

An "acceptable dump"?? Wow, thats a bold statement to make! Its all in the eyes of the beholder I guess. You accpet it...others don't

Some see Fratton Park as a dump, some see it as an old ground with lots of character and a cracking atmosphere.

Sixfields was pretty modern and plush....in 1994! But now its 2019, 25 years have passed and pretty much nothing has been done with the ground. Thats a hard fact for some to swallow I know! In fact, i'd go as far as to say its a worse ground now than it was then......the ground won awards for disabled facilities back in the day. Since the demolition of the viewing gallery and removal of the lift etc our disabled fans have been left out in the cold in more ways than one.

Still, each to their own eh? Everyone is entitled to their own opinon aren't they Evers?
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« Reply #23848 on: January 11, 2019, 18:21:34 pm »

All apathy has been born out of 20 years of Cardoza and Thomas's inability to show the slightest improvements to our stadium and the progress of our football club.
It could very easily be reversed.


You know as well as everyone else on here that the apathy was around long before anyone had heard the name Cardoza. I can't remember anyone campaigning to have some sort of decent sanitation(the Roman's didn't give it to us) behind the Hotel End and we turned out week after week to watch dross on the pitch with Youth Opportunity players and journeymen just making a wage. Mind you there was a decent atmosphere.
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« Reply #23849 on: January 11, 2019, 18:46:04 pm »

Compared with quite a few L2 and even some L1 grounds we are an acceptable "dump". Have you been to Fratton Park or Luton for that matter? They are real dumps and at Fratton Park the toilets are so old fashioned you literally stand in rivers of urine. That's if you can reach them in the first case. As for amenities at both they are terrible. Frankly you are speaking out of your backside.
Evers, if you are seriously trying to say that Sixfields is superior to Fratton Park, then your last sentence indeed applies to you!
You think the whole stadium (19,500 capacity, large atmospheric home and away ends, old skool Archibald Leitch Main stands and floodlights...) issue is based on your opinion of a toilet cubicle???
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« Reply #23850 on: January 11, 2019, 23:24:15 pm »

Evers, if you are seriously trying to say that Sixfields is superior to Fratton Park, then your last sentence indeed applies to you!
You think the whole stadium (19,500 capacity, large atmospheric home and away ends, old skool Archibald Leitch Main stands and floodlights...) issue is based on your opinion of a toilet cubicle???

You might like Fratton Park but I think the amenities are pp and the cramped seating arrangements are shoddy.  Huh? Have you been to Fratton Park?
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« Reply #23851 on: January 12, 2019, 04:09:02 am »

He does have a point, Fratton Park is a bit cramped, fans have to make do with what they have and Pompey fans make a fantastic atmosphere down there, but if Pompey had a lot of money to spare and it was worth putting the money into upgrading the stadium i'm sure there are a few of their fans who would like it.

If i was a Portsmouth fan i'd be wanting to get back into the Championship and then after 3 years of stability look at improving infrastructure, but until then i'd accept it as it is like fans have done for many a year while trying to get back to the level that such a well supported club deserves to be.
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« Reply #23852 on: January 14, 2019, 10:59:52 am »

I love Fratton park. I loved the old Moyes end at the scum.

I like the character and atmosphere that comes with the old grounds.
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« Reply #23853 on: January 14, 2019, 11:06:54 am »

isn't calling Peterborough, scum defamation ?
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« Reply #23854 on: January 14, 2019, 11:14:24 am »

isn't calling Peterborough, scum defamation ?

 Certainly hope so..  Grin Grin
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« Reply #23855 on: January 14, 2019, 11:58:04 am »

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« Reply #23856 on: January 14, 2019, 14:49:08 pm »

Compared with quite a few L2 and even some L1 grounds we are an acceptable "dump". Have you been to Fratton Park or Luton for that matter? They are real dumps and at Fratton Park the toilets are so old fashioned you literally stand in rivers of urine. That's if you can reach them in the first case. As for amenities at both they are terrible. Frankly you are speaking out of your backside.

Oh Evers, you young scally-wag.  You do make me chuckle at times.

If you were a fish, you'd spend most of your time flapping about on dry land with a hook in your mouth.

Would you like to re-read my post, consider the information provided, and once you've used your considerable knowledge of Sixfields, re-formulate your response?
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« Reply #23857 on: January 14, 2019, 16:11:01 pm »

I love Fratton park. I loved the old Moyes end at the scum.

I like the character and atmosphere that comes with the old grounds.

I think we all from a certain era love the old grounds - they had a smell (generally unpleasant), they had a fear factor and they belonged to the fans - atmosphere never created in the newer ground (maybe the architecture but more likely the type of fans that now attend)
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« Reply #23858 on: January 14, 2019, 16:22:04 pm »

Oh Evers, you young scally-wag.  You do make me chuckle at times.

If you were a fish, you'd spend most of your time flapping about on dry land with a hook in your mouth.

Would you like to re-read my post, consider the information provided, and once you've used your considerable knowledge of Sixfields, re-formulate your response?

Ha Ha - I asked you a question. Were you blindfolded when you went to Stanley,Oldham, Luton and Pompey.  Obviously you were. These a poor grounds and there are more no better than sixfields ; FGR for example.
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« Reply #23859 on: January 14, 2019, 16:54:25 pm »

Factoring in capacity, corporate facilities, general state of ground etc...but most importantly, being able to make money out of it...I reckon, worse than Sixfields:

League2:

Forest Green
Stevenage
Newport
Crawley
Cheltenham
Morecambe
Macclesfield

League1:

Accrington
Fleetwood
AFC Wimbledon

*Luton is an utter dump but capacity is over 10,000 and they also have numerous boxes.
*Fleetwood is debatable given its excellent facilities, its just got a very small capacity.
*Wimbledon are having a new ground built, as ar Forest Green. Luton are also making good progress in that regard.

So out of the 92, I reckon theres 10 grounds that are worse than ours.

Interestingly, none of those grounds are big towns/cities. Even with my claret tinted glasses off, we should be a considerably bigger club than any of those on my list, due to catchment area.

When we moved into Sixfields we had a very decent 4th division ground, but so many clubs have moved on since then and our ground is now incredibly worse than what it was when we moved in!

I find it incredible how anybody can even debate otherwise, its plain silly. It needs sorting and the current owners are not doing it. Despite promising to do so on their arrival.


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