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« Reply #24920 on: June 19, 2019, 19:42:23 pm »

Any news from KT after all he has the funds and is just waiting for NBC to sort the leases

Oh no wait they already done that 16 months ago

So how many of u are going to admit on here u were wrong about KT, just another DC in disguise, blaming NBC and not interested in medium or long term development of NTFC ?


yeah he dc in disguise, he stepped in to save our club paid the players and staff and everyone else who was owed money and then jogged on with £10 mil. Get a grip
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« Reply #24921 on: June 19, 2019, 19:48:18 pm »

Any news from KT after all he has the funds and is just waiting for NBC to sort the leases

Oh no wait they already done that 16 months ago

So how many of u are going to admit on here u were wrong about KT, just another DC in disguise, blaming NBC and not interested in medium or long term development of NTFC ?


From very early in his tenure it became obvious to me that Thomas and Cardoza  were two cheeks of the same arse.. land land and more land!
But we mustn't cause division within the support base with those who believed he was the great white hope as they rallied at his nonsensical overhead projector indoctrination's.
He himself admitted a year ago he was looking for a get out clause, so as a support base we need to be united and not fractured.
No one's wrong or right where the future of our clubs concerned, we can now all agree Thomas has been a failure in regards our clubs growth.
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« Reply #24922 on: June 19, 2019, 19:56:48 pm »

I thought so.
However, I would be surprised if most clubs within the Third, Fourth and National League divisions aren't in a similar position?
There's  many different species within that spectrum,  some have little option but bounce along on the bones of there arses, others clubs have been belittled and sold cheaply and not allowed to maximise any potential... As seen at Sixfields these past 20 years.
Compare apples to apples.
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« Reply #24923 on: June 19, 2019, 20:07:15 pm »

yeah he dc in disguise, he stepped in to save our club paid the players and staff and everyone else who was owed money and then jogged on with £10 mil. Get a grip
Forget the 200k Thomas paid for tax bills and wages to take control. Talk to me about the 5 plus millions dumped into clubs accounts by Thomas and co, giving a full description of what value you are seeing for such a vast and toxic debt?
And do you believe for such a debt, monies, should they have really been spent, couldve been used in a more pro active manner such as building up our clubs infrastructure?
I can wait.
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« Reply #24924 on: June 19, 2019, 20:16:16 pm »

Forget the 200k Thomas paid for tax bills and wages to take control. Talk to me about the 5 plus millions dumped into clubs accounts by Thomas and co, giving a full description of what value you are seeing for such a vast and toxic debt?
And do you believe for such a debt, monies, should they have really been spent, couldve been used in a more pro active manner such as building up our clubs infrastructure?
I can wait.
thanks to kt we can still go support our club between august and may and how can he build the infrastructure when there is still legal matters concerning the east stand his hands are tied
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« Reply #24925 on: June 19, 2019, 20:25:53 pm »

I don't care about dc,(wank3r), he don't care about me,(what a c**t),all I care about is NTFC!
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« Reply #24926 on: June 19, 2019, 20:32:08 pm »

At the end of the day we all want this crap resolved and for a redevelopment to properly happen and we will all disagree on views but that's football unfortunately I'm just grateful that I have a club to support and then moan about on a Saturday
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« Reply #24927 on: June 19, 2019, 21:55:19 pm »

Similar though! Out accounts for the previous year pointed to the reliance of outside investors to keep our heads above water....the ‘loans’ to our club are also made from shell companies based on the BVI, as is the case for Bury.

Let’s face it, if at any time Bower and Thomas call in the debt we are fooked, assuming they are not willing to sell the controlling interest for a fraction of their investment.

That said, theee is no sign of them doing that at present so nothing to worry about....eh?!

Who they going to call it in against?  The club that is owned by them, would just go into immediate administration and they’d get virtually fcuk all in the pound and have no assets to collect against, if they could at all. 

The ground would still be there. A team of sorts would remain.

The club MIGHT currently be in a strangle hold, but by that fact, so are they.

I’m quite happy with the close seasons business on the pitch. After all, that’s what I care and pay for..
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« Reply #24928 on: June 20, 2019, 04:49:11 am »

Forget the 200k Thomas paid for tax bills and wages to take control. Talk to me about the 5 plus millions dumped into clubs accounts by Thomas and co, giving a full description of what value you are seeing for such a vast and toxic debt?
And do you believe for such a debt, monies, should they have really been spent, couldve been used in a more pro active manner such as building up our clubs infrastructure?
I can wait.
FFS I can’t stand by and listen to this sh1t any longer. What the fcuk are you talking about “toxic debt”? One of my companies owes me about 1.5 million. If I called that in then all that would happen is a large echo back from the hills and fcuk all else. I could take the money out of the profits (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). I could decide to sell the assets (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). Or I could sell the company to the highest bidder and pocket the cash (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). So in other words a business being in debt to the owner means absolutely Jack Sh1t. I’ll tell you when debt does matter. Let’s just suppose you own a division 2 club and you hypothetically decide to blow a few million on a new stand. Now let’s suppose you decide to borrow the money from the banks (good luck with that), outside investors, local businesses and/or well wishers. Now if they at any point decided to call in the debt you would be proper fcuked, with a fire sale of your best players, assets, a reduction in staff and services and all that goes with it. Still thankfully we’re fairly safe as a only a completely incompetent cretin would suggest that? Jesus, months on and still the same bollocks?
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« Reply #24929 on: June 20, 2019, 07:30:22 am »

FFS I can’t stand by and listen to this sh1t any longer. What the fcuk are you talking about “toxic debt”? One of my companies owes me about 1.5 million. If I called that in then all that would happen is a large echo back from the hills and fcuk all else. I could take the money out of the profits (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). I could decide to sell the assets (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). Or I could sell the company to the highest bidder and pocket the cash (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). So in other words a business being in debt to the owner means absolutely Jack Sh1t. I’ll tell you when debt does matter. Let’s just suppose you own a division 2 club and you hypothetically decide to blow a few million on a new stand. Now let’s suppose you decide to borrow the money from the banks (good luck with that), outside investors, local businesses and/or well wishers. Now if they at any point decided to call in the debt you would be proper fcuked, with a fire sale of your best players, assets, a reduction in staff and services and all that goes with it. Still thankfully we’re fairly safe as a only a completely incompetent cretin would suggest that? Jesus, months on and still the same bollocks?

Welcome back, mate.  Grin
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« Reply #24930 on: June 20, 2019, 08:10:34 am »

Welcome back, mate.  Grin
Didn’t think it through Raul, it was twice as frustrating reading some of the sh1t on here whilst gagging yourself at the same time. All be it the same sh1t from the usual suspects.
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« Reply #24931 on: June 20, 2019, 09:20:11 am »

FFS I can’t stand by and listen to this sh1t any longer. What the fcuk are you talking about “toxic debt”? One of my companies owes me about 1.5 million. If I called that in then all that would happen is a large echo back from the hills and fcuk all else. I could take the money out of the profits (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). I could decide to sell the assets (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). Or I could sell the company to the highest bidder and pocket the cash (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). So in other words a business being in debt to the owner means absolutely Jack Sh1t. I’ll tell you when debt does matter. Let’s just suppose you own a division 2 club and you hypothetically decide to blow a few million on a new stand. Now let’s suppose you decide to borrow the money from the banks (good luck with that), outside investors, local businesses and/or well wishers. Now if they at any point decided to call in the debt you would be proper fcuked, with a fire sale of your best players, assets, a reduction in staff and services and all that goes with it. Still thankfully we’re fairly safe as a only a completely incompetent cretin would suggest that? Jesus, months on and still the same bollocks?

You have to understand what you are dealing with. These fanatics exist all over the internet. They hold a disproportionate hatred towards people that have done nothing to them. They are unable to add a sense of context to what they are dealing with. In short, it is their obsession. Whilst the vast majority of people have a fair appraisal of the situation, these people make it their business to elevate themselves above what is an acceptable status and persistently take personal ownership of any offence or emotion on the subject of NTFC. 

I fully understand and share the frustration with the current situation. I have spoken with and listened to all of those involved at NTFC. I have even spoken to the pretenders to the throne. The one thing that remains constant in those discussions, is the level of frustration across the board. Another thing that is constant as well, is that all of them are freezing each other out. The sheer rank amateurism shown in all quarters to the art of negotiation is frightening. All I see is one personal agenda following another. I direct that at all of them. There are plenty who are tired and bored of all of them....
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« Reply #24932 on: June 20, 2019, 14:55:47 pm »

My frustration, besides the police taking over 3 years to investigate the Bushey Boys, so far, is the fact that the Crown Prosecution Service (our taxes pay their wages) will not give a timescale on how long they are going to take before they make a decision!.................even an estimate of one month, 6 months, a year or 2 years+.

A similar timescale estimate from KT on the East Stand development is the least fans deserve!!!

I did hear on good authority that the police are going through a host of information with a fine tooth comb (again) due to 'questions' regarding the first search. You've just got to hope that some of the old names, who don't need naming, are finally put in the frame. 
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« Reply #24933 on: June 20, 2019, 15:41:18 pm »

I just want a chairman who is going to improve NTFC and value it's fans and it's potential.

We can go over the same crap : happy to have a club v the size of Northampton should be championship football minimum but whilst most fans are happy to do and say nothing then League 2 football is all you will get

No wonder Northampton is such a mess when u have those like NTFC87 whose support of KT is so uninformed and then goes on to say he moans on match day. Please again we are in League 2, mid table with no plans, no ambitions other than to go through the motions AGAIN. What happens off the pitch hugely influences on the pitch.

If we have to become non-league to wake up most of our fans then bring it on, I hope we lose every single f***ing game.



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« Reply #24934 on: June 20, 2019, 15:57:11 pm »

Random, why don't you just p1ss off you boring little twat.
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« Reply #24935 on: June 20, 2019, 17:10:44 pm »

Random, why don't you just p1ss off you boring little twat.

What charming supporters we have! You couldn't make it up.
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« Reply #24936 on: June 20, 2019, 18:08:13 pm »

FFS I can’t stand by and listen to this sh1t any longer. What the fcuk are you talking about “toxic debt”? One of my companies owes me about 1.5 million. If I called that in then all that would happen is a large echo back from the hills and fcuk all else. I could take the money out of the profits (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). I could decide to sell the assets (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). Or I could sell the company to the highest bidder and pocket the cash (but I could do that anyway, debt or not). So in other words a business being in debt to the owner means absolutely Jack Sh1t. I’ll tell you when debt does matter. Let’s just suppose you own a division 2 club and you hypothetically decide to blow a few million on a new stand. Now let’s suppose you decide to borrow the money from the banks (good luck with that), outside investors, local businesses and/or well wishers. Now if they at any point decided to call in the debt you would be proper fcuked, with a fire sale of your best players, assets, a reduction in staff and services and all that goes with it. Still thankfully we’re fairly safe as a only a completely incompetent cretin would suggest that? Jesus, months on and still the same bollocks?
Again you fail to grasp the difference between sporting institutions that represents a local community and that of a privately run business enterprise.
So if there was really over £5m pumped into the football club of Northampton then its only right we should have some tangeable assets arising from this vast sum of directirs loans or whatever they are.
If it's just sitting there scaring off any other potential investors then it can only be described as being toxic and unsustainable should it be ever expected of the club to pay it back, should they be presented as loans or any other form of leverage to extract what ever the reasoning behind it being dumped on our club in the first place.
These can not be claimed as running costs as that would be ridiculous in the extreme since these latest lot in over 4 years, haven't done a single thing to grow the clubs infrastructure in order to maximise its earning potential.
Any losses were inflicted on our club by the very people handing out debt in the form of loans.
Writing off their own mistakes is what should be happening.

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« Reply #24937 on: June 20, 2019, 18:17:45 pm »

Again you fail to grasp the difference between sporting institutions that represents a local community and that of a privately run business enterprise.
So if there was really over £5m pumped into the football club of Northampton then its only right we should have some tangeable assets arising from this vast sum of directirs loans or whatever they are.
If it's just sitting there scaring off any other potential investors then it can only be described as being toxic and unsustainable should it be ever expected of the club to pay it back, should they be presented as loans or any other form of leverage to extract what ever the reasoning behind it being dumped on our club in the first place.
These can not be claimed as running costs as that would be ridiculous in the extreme since these latest lot in over 4 years, haven't done a single thing to grow the clubs infrastructure in order to maximise its earning potential.

Any losses were inflicted on our club by the very people handing out debt in the form of loans.
Writing off their own mistakes is what should be happening.



Transfer and agents fees, and then the players salaries are all running costs aren't they?

Would suspect that the bulk of the so called "toxic" debt was spent in those areas?
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« Reply #24938 on: June 20, 2019, 20:51:45 pm »

Again you fail to grasp the difference between sporting institutions that represents a local community and that of a privately run business enterprise.
So if there was really over £5m pumped into the football club of Northampton then its only right we should have some tangeable assets arising from this vast sum of directirs loans or whatever they are.
If it's just sitting there scaring off any other potential investors then it can only be described as being toxic and unsustainable should it be ever expected of the club to pay it back, should they be presented as loans or any other form of leverage to extract what ever the reasoning behind it being dumped on our club in the first place.
These can not be claimed as running costs as that would be ridiculous in the extreme since these latest lot in over 4 years, haven't done a single thing to grow the clubs infrastructure in order to maximise its earning potential.
Any losses were inflicted on our club by the very people handing out debt in the form of loans.
Writing off their own mistakes is what should be happening.


Bit confused, are you suggesting the current board have falsified the annual accounts? In any event, once again you try to separate the financial position of NTFC and any other business. We are talking about debt. Debt is debt and the same rules, obligations and responsibilities apply irrespective of the industry. That’s another fact that is inconveniently at odds with your agenda.
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« Reply #24939 on: June 20, 2019, 21:07:45 pm »

Random, why don't you just p1ss off you boring little twat.

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