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« Reply #25260 on: July 02, 2019, 19:59:20 pm »

Dark grey shirts and socks with white trim and shorts. Away strip was white shirt socks and shorts with 2 dark grey bands across the shirt. Some supporter?

Well I only saw pink at Fratton park........
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« Reply #25261 on: July 04, 2019, 10:06:51 am »

Never been struck on them white shorts  Embarrassed

That'll be it  Grin Grin
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« Reply #25262 on: July 04, 2019, 12:56:19 pm »

 
Dark grey shirts and socks with white trim and shorts. Away strip was white shirt socks and shorts with 2 dark grey bands across the shirt. Some supporter?

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« Reply #25263 on: July 11, 2019, 22:33:22 pm »

Nothing to add, just couldn't bear a whole week going by without a single post on the world's longest thread (probably).

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« Reply #25264 on: July 12, 2019, 06:32:20 am »

Nothing to add, just couldn't bear a whole week going by without a single post on the world's longest thread (probably).

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Id almost forgotten about this. Refresh my memory, what’s the story so far?
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« Reply #25265 on: July 12, 2019, 08:13:29 am »

Id almost forgotten about this. Refresh my memory, what’s the story so far?
Once upon a time a knight in shining armour came to sort a total c*ck up by the Cardoza/NBC partnership. Sir KT talked the talk but did NOT walk the walk!!!
After many sleepless nights we still wake up to an embarrassing carbuncle of an East Stand!!!

978,956 views, 25,264 comments; result- NOTHING!

One wonders if the next chapter will remain a fairytale?
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« Reply #25266 on: July 12, 2019, 09:57:17 am »

This thread is now over seven years old, maybe it should be renamed redevelopment further than ever.  There doesn't seem any desire whatever to complete the East Stand.
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« Reply #25267 on: July 12, 2019, 21:37:22 pm »

This thread is now over seven years old, maybe it should be renamed redevelopment further than ever.  There doesn't seem any desire whatever to complete the East Stand.
Finishing the 'East stand' is a red herring,  Thomas gave the impression he was genuinely interested in doing something but was all bravado as he never had any intentions other than hoping to make multi millions for his paymasters and give our club a token gesture..
In L2 we just rot, crap team, crap attendances, crap ground, its how we roll, but when the club reach L1 it is a different beast, we play dozens of bigger clubs that attract larger attendances,  so much so we lose £300k at the gate by being unable to welcome upwards of 3,000 visiting fans and allow our club to build up its supporters base wanting to sample greater atmosphere at a more professional stadium, which 'finishing the east' does not allow! Yes great in entertaining local buisneses and attracting investment through sponsorship etc, it doesnt allow 8, 9 or 10,000 gates we lose out on hand over fist.
The main thing Sixfields needs is a capacity increase, which would greatly improve the stadium.
The easiest and most dramatic improvement would see a 3000 capacity cheap bank of terracing built up behind the seats in the south stand, costing approx £1.5m. Which is close to the amount of revenues lost every season we spend in L2!
The stand could be shared and still allow up to 3000 visiting fans to access games at a vociferous Sixfields that would attract the more vocal younger fans we need badly.
When Thomas next talks of finishing the East, which I doubt he ever will, just ask yourself, is he really the big football / buisness man he led us to believe he was?
I'm convinced he's not.
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« Reply #25268 on: July 12, 2019, 22:05:25 pm »

Good grief
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« Reply #25269 on: July 12, 2019, 23:11:39 pm »

Allow me to slightly edit the latest dross from the serial fantasist Beds.
“When Beds next talks of finishing the East, which I doubt we ever will, just ask yourself, is he really the big football / buisness man he led us to believe he was?
He's not”
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« Reply #25270 on: July 13, 2019, 07:44:04 am »

Allow me to slightly edit the latest dross from the serial fantasist Beds.
“When Beds next talks of finishing the East, which I doubt we ever will, just ask yourself, is he really the big football / buisness man he led us to believe he was?
He's not”
I never gave the impression I would 'finish the East stand' Thomas did in order to take control of the club cheaply, but never as much as presented an artist impression of what he intended doing, which I believe is nothing.
Melborne, you being a businessman who has been very quick with a defeatist no can do attitude to suggestions as to what Sixfields needs to help its inability to sustain our club and push its urgent need for growth, so what do you reckon to my latest suggestions that talk of finishing the East above a much easier extention of the South stand to allow us to capitalise in L1 on gate revenues is all a big red herring to throw Northampton town fans off track as to what our club really needs whilst allowing Thomas extra time in land aquirement he craves?
I say moth ball the East stand a little longer, extend the South stand in  preparation  for an assault on L1, east stand can be phase 2 . North stand being phase 3, and championship ready.
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« Reply #25271 on: July 13, 2019, 09:54:48 am »

I never gave the impression I would 'finish the East stand' Thomas did in order to take control of the club cheaply, but never as much as presented an artist impression of what he intended doing, which I believe is nothing.
Melborne, you being a businessman who has been very quick with a defeatist no can do attitude to suggestions as to what Sixfields needs to help its inability to sustain our club and push its urgent need for growth, so what do you reckon to my latest suggestions that talk of finishing the East above a much easier extention of the South stand to allow us to capitalise in L1 on gate revenues is all a big red herring to throw Northampton town fans off track as to what our club really needs whilst allowing Thomas extra time in land aquirement he craves?
I say moth ball the East stand a little longer, extend the South stand in  preparation  for an assault on L1, east stand can be phase 2 . North stand being phase 3, and championship ready.
I’ve said the wrong thing again haven’t I? I agree, you never have said you would finish the East Stand, just waffled on incessantly about KT doing it. On a serious note Beds it doesn’t matter what you do, finish the south, the east, put in your boxes it doesn’t matter. As I keep saying all you need to do is come up with some concrete bullet proof figures to enable us to raise the cash. Every post you put on here is full of opinion and debatable at that. The facts are that any proposals need to be financially bullet proof otherwise you won’t get support, and without that groundswell you’re wasting your time. Instead of generalised comments put some figures together and go to the trust, anything but the same repetitive stuff on here? You never know, you might come up with something workable? You’ve got your critics on here, me included but no one can knock your commitment and drive, you just need to channel it in the right direction rather than arguing in support of your opinion that has no real substance attached to it? You spoke on here about Division 1 and clubs that bring large away support. Good point, how many, how often and how many times did the away allocation sell out? What does that equate to in terms of revenue? Come up with decent figures and then people will sit up and take notice. Either that or you can come back and have another pop at me with another barrow load of generalised opinion and argument? You decide?
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« Reply #25272 on: July 13, 2019, 13:34:22 pm »

I’ve said the wrong thing again haven’t I? I agree, you never have said you would finish the East Stand, just waffled on incessantly about KT doing it. On a serious note Beds it doesn’t matter what you do, finish the south, the east, put in your boxes it doesn’t matter. As I keep saying all you need to do is come up with some concrete bullet proof figures to enable us to raise the cash. Every post you put on here is full of opinion and debatable at that. The facts are that any proposals need to be financially bullet proof otherwise you won’t get support, and without that groundswell you’re wasting your time. Instead of generalised comments put some figures together and go to the trust, anything but the same repetitive stuff on here? You never know, you might come up with something workable? You’ve got your critics on here, me included but no one can knock your commitment and drive, you just need to channel it in the right direction rather than arguing in support of your opinion that has no real substance attached to it? You spoke on here about Division 1 and clubs that bring large away support. Good point, how many, how often and how many times did the away allocation sell out? What does that equate to in terms of revenue? Come up with decent figures and then people will sit up and take notice. Either that or you can come back and have another pop at me with another barrow load of generalised opinion and argument? You decide?
Here's £1m per season in losses by being unable to attain L1 football, based on having an extra 3000 capacity at Sixfields taking the capacity to 10,000 and allowing upto 3000 visiting fans, all based on next season.
 
Losses from sky tv pool 300,000
Losses on gates
Fixtures to attract 8,9 or 10,000 (spare capacity is a good thing, selling out too often, for your information,  is bad practice )
COV
IPSWICH
PETERBOROUGH
PORTSMOUTH
MK
BOLTON
OXFORD
SUNDERLAND.
A minimum increase of 20,000 from just 8 games above sixfields as it is now. That's £400,000 extra income.

Having a better looking stadium that has an atmospheric feel to the place, should attract a minimum extra 15,000 home and visiting supporters over the course of the season playing the less attractive sides. That's another £300,000!
Better income through food and drink sales, advertising revenues etc, already £1m a season extra income looks very conservative!
A 3000 bank of standing terracing, is the way to go as a first phase, the east stand 2nd.
The cost of the work £1.5m, the damage to our clubs future to carry on aimlessly with Thomas, immeasurable.
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« Reply #25273 on: July 13, 2019, 13:46:04 pm »

Here's £1m per season in losses by being unable to attain L1 football, based on having an extra 3000 capacity at Sixfields taking the capacity to 10,000 and allowing upto 3000 visiting fans, all based on next season.
 
Losses from sky tv pool 300,000
Losses on gates
Fixtures to attract 8,9 or 10,000 (spare capacity is a good thing, selling out too often, for your information,  is bad practice )
COV
IPSWICH
PETERBOROUGH
PORTSMOUTH
MK
BOLTON
OXFORD
SUNDERLAND.
A minimum increase of 20,000 from just 8 games above sixfields as it is now. That's £400,000 extra income.

Having a better looking stadium that has an atmospheric feel to the place, should attract a minimum extra 15,000 home and visiting supporters over the course of the season playing the less attractive sides. That's another £300,000!
Better income through food and drink sales, advertising revenues etc, already £1m a season extra income looks very conservative!
A 3000 bank of standing terracing, is the way to go as a first phase, the east stand 2nd.
The cost of the work £1.5m, the damage to our clubs future to carry on aimlessly with Thomas, immeasurable.

as I thought, thanks for confirming.
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« Reply #25274 on: July 13, 2019, 14:09:43 pm »

as I thought, thanks for confirming.
You're welcome, glad to be of service  Wink
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« Reply #25275 on: July 13, 2019, 16:19:33 pm »

You're welcome, glad to be of service  Wink

Beds,

You need to also consider the additional costs - more expensive players (salary, transfer fees and so forth), additional security costs (internal and policing), more back office staff, increased on-going maintenance costs etc............................Have you taken out the 20% VAT on your increased revenue ?


As a minimum I'd want the stadium back to the standard it was in before Cardoza redeveloped it and refurbished back to the standard when it was brand new. It had become very jaded. For the future I wonder if increased revenue may come from live tv on the internet rather than more bums on seats.
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« Reply #25276 on: July 13, 2019, 16:42:46 pm »

Beds,

You need to also consider the additional costs - more expensive players (salary, transfer fees and so forth), additional security costs (internal and policing), more back office staff, increased on-going maintenance costs etc............................Have you taken out the 20% VAT on your increased revenue ?


As a minimum I'd want the stadium back to the standard it was in before Cardoza redeveloped it and refurbished back to the standard when it was brand new. It had become very jaded. For the future I wonder if increased revenue may come from live tv on the internet rather than more bums on seats.

What you’re attempting to do, is akin to sending Stevie Wonder for an eye test...
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« Reply #25277 on: July 13, 2019, 16:52:46 pm »

What you’re attempting to do, is akin to sending Stevie Wonder for an eye test...
To be carried out by Ray Charles
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« Reply #25278 on: July 13, 2019, 17:01:02 pm »

Beds,

You need to also consider the additional costs - more expensive players (salary, transfer fees and so forth), additional security costs (internal and policing), more back office staff, increased on-going maintenance costs etc............................Have you taken out the 20% VAT on your increased revenue ?


As a minimum I'd want the stadium back to the standard it was in before Cardoza redeveloped it and refurbished back to the standard when it was brand new. It had become very jaded. For the future I wonder if increased revenue may come from live tv on the internet rather than more bums on seats.
19% corporation tax on any profits. All I asked him was how many times the away end sold out when we were in division 1 and he comes back with yet another comedy business plan.
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« Reply #25279 on: July 13, 2019, 17:40:04 pm »

19% corporation tax on any profits. All I asked him was how many times the away end sold out when we were in division 1 and he comes back with yet another comedy business plan.

You are fixated with BedsCobb. Perhaps you should put forward your own plan to resolve the East Stand impasse.
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