southofthecounty
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I've had some insults in my time BUT this is the worst!!!!
I suspected you might be Marvo.
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Melbourne Cobbler
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Wrong, that’s the district or borough of Swindon NOT the town, Wikipedia is really not the best place to get information from either.
You’re not wrong about Wikipedia either Manny! Mark Marshall Personal information Full name Mark Anthony Marshall[1] Date of birth 5 May 1987 (age 33) Place of birth Manchester, Jamaica Height 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m)[2]They are taking the pi55
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Not a real supporter but unelected chair of the Northampton Town Honorary Supporters Club. (Please note: any opinions given may not necessarily be shared by proper supporters. In incidents of conflict the views of real supporters shall take precedence).
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Knockingonabit
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Now you know how I felt BBS, and to make matters worse Evers, of all people, called me a temperamental Snowflake! I suppose my references to the potential due to population but being overlooked by sugar daddies is connected to me of being a "Proud Northamptonian" without having much to be proud about! All through my lifetime the civic leadership has been pathetic and is now reduced to bleating on about our wonderful local independent shops when the ones that really influence town centre footfall have done a bunk along the A45 to Rushden Lakes. Whilst I suppose we have to grateful for the very existence of Sixfields where else would build a "Community Stadium" with such a small capacity relative to the size of the town? Added to which having watched the football club for over 60 years spurning every opportunity to consolidate at a higher level being philosophical doesn't come easy. Rant over.
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singcobb
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Wrong, that’s the district or borough of Swindon NOT the town, Wikipedia is really not the best place to get information from either.
Then that makes it look even worse for us.
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Manwork04
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You’re not wrong about Wikipedia either Manny!
Mark Marshall Personal information Full name Mark Anthony Marshall[1] Date of birth 5 May 1987 (age 33) Place of birth Manchester, Jamaica Height 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m)[2]
They are taking the pi55
Brilliant Melly maybe he’s shrunk with old age .....
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Rule Britannia
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Now you know how I felt BBS, and to make matters worse Evers, of all people, called me a temperamental Snowflake! I suppose my references to the potential due to population but being overlooked by sugar daddies is connected to me of being a "Proud Northamptonian" without having much to be proud about! All through my lifetime the civic leadership has been pathetic and is now reduced to bleating on about our wonderful local independent shops when the ones that really influence town centre footfall have done a bunk along the A45 to Rushden Lakes. Whilst I suppose we have to grateful for the very existence of Sixfields where else would build a "Community Stadium" with such a small capacity relative to the size of the town? Added to which having watched the football club for over 60 years spurning every opportunity to consolidate at a higher level being philosophical doesn't come easy. Rant over. Sincerely hope you can recognise a leg pull on here. It’s what they do!
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2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
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Knockingonabit
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The first line was a light hearted response to the earlier posts, the rest just me sounding off. I would have hoped that was fairly obvious Evers!
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GrangeParkCobbler
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Not necessarily redev related but it appears that the deal between the EPL and EFL has been agreed, this will see all League One clubs be given a minimum of £375k to cover for loss of revenue due to Covid. League 2 clubs get less at £250k per club as a minimum. (equates to £15m)
There is a further £15m to be distributed between the clubs based on a "lost gate revenue share calculation" that the EFL will carry out. I'd guess that the small clubs who only attract 1500 will see little or none of this, whilst the likes of Sunderland, Ipswich and the like will get the lions share.
The total cost of this handout is £30m
In addition to that a further £20m is to be made available to clubs on a "need" basis as a monitored grant. Clubs will be able to apply for further funding and it will be considered by a panel.
Every little helps I guess!
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The Hotel End GTA Champion 2006/7, 2007/8, 2011/12, 2012/13 and 2018/19
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Shoemaker
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Now that we have the lost revenue back can we dare be so optimistic as to venture that we may abandon the peanuts + transfer policy and actually sign a couple of quality players to help in our league one survival quest. I looked at fleetwoods bench the other night and thought the likes of josh Morris, Rossiter and Duffy would walk into our first team... We need an experienced spine and we yet may be able to survive....
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The grants are to be monitored by the EFL and Premier League so the money does NOT go to agents and players pockets only. I have an idea why not put some of it towards an investment in the ground?
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tcobb
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Shoemaker, the Club do not have the lost revenue back. They have a some of it back. Unless you have facts to back up your statement please refrain from posting your normal lies.
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This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.
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Shoemaker
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Shoemaker, the Club do not have the lost revenue back. They have a some of it back. Unless you have facts to back up your statement please refrain from posting your normal lies.
As I understand it the money that the club/owners will receive is to make up for the lost revenue. Can you enlighten us with what % of the lost revenue will be returned to the club and if there is a % shortfall that will need to be reimbursed? If not please refrain from vague refrains. I think my statement will prove to be more factually correct than your guesses. Unless of course kelvins been on the phone to you and explained the finances to you with a breakdown of money the club will receive. If this is the case please post the info that you have gleaned and I will happily apologise to you for doubting your inside knowledge. Ta
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GrangeParkCobbler
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Shoemaker, the Club do not have the lost revenue back. They have a some of it back. Unless you have facts to back up your statement please refrain from posting your normal lies.
At the end of the day nobody knows the exact figures....we'll have a guaranteed £375k plus a bit more, and the facility to try and get more if we can show we need it. I guess only the chairman and chief exec know how much "match day income" we have lost so far, and then I guess not even they will be able to work out how much of the income was pure profit (its not like it costs the club nothing to provide you with a seat, a ticket, police in the ground, stewarding, turnstile operators, cleaners to clean up after every game etc) and then whether this grant and addons will go part way, some way or all the way to covering it. Of course we're not at the end of this yet, and if we are playing to limited crowds for a few more months yet then the payout makes less of a dent in the losses.
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The Hotel End GTA Champion 2006/7, 2007/8, 2011/12, 2012/13 and 2018/19
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tcobb
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It appears Shoemaker knows how much the Club is going to get and how much they have lost. So if he could just let us know exactly what those two figures are ? He can then tell us the exact amount that will be available for transfers.
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This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.
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Manwork04
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At the end of the day nobody knows the exact figures....we'll have a guaranteed £375k plus a bit more, and the facility to try and get more if we can show we need it.
I guess only the chairman and chief exec know how much "match day income" we have lost so far, and then I guess not even they will be able to work out how much of the income was pure profit (its not like it costs the club nothing to provide you with a seat, a ticket, police in the ground, stewarding, turnstile operators, cleaners to clean up after every game etc) and then whether this grant and addons will go part way, some way or all the way to covering it.
Of course we're not at the end of this yet, and if we are playing to limited crowds for a few more months yet then the payout makes less of a dent in the losses.
We should spunk the lot on Nugent.
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Rule Britannia
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Shoemaker
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It appears Shoemaker knows how much the Club is going to get and how much they have lost. So if he could just let us know exactly what those two figures are ? He can then tell us the exact amount that will be available for transfers.
Il tell you what I do know Clubs will obviously try to get every penny of lost revenue back and I predict that some clubs will do very well out of it. IF the model is based on each clubs average attendance we will be out of luck as it won’t compensate for all the fair weather fans who would have jumped on the bandwagon on the back of a promotion to league one. I would imagine and it’s just a guess that KT will be pushing for every penny he thinks he has lost out on. You may however have a different viewpoint. Maybe he can claim for compensation because COVID has pushed back his redevelopment plans and all the extra money that would have been rolling in this season due to the full executive boxes... Good luck with that....
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Shoemaker
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Il tell you what I do know Clubs will obviously try to get every penny of lost revenue back and I predict that some clubs will do very well out of it. IF the model is based on each clubs average attendance we will be out of luck as it won’t compensate for all the fair weather fans who would have jumped on the bandwagon on the back of a promotion to league one.
I would imagine and it’s just a guess that KT will be pushing for every penny he thinks he has lost out on. You may however have a different viewpoint.
Maybe he can claim for compensation because COVID has pushed back his redevelopment plans and all the extra money that would have been rolling in this season due to the full executive boxes...
Good luck with that....
Mind you if I owned the club that’s what I’d do The worst they can say is ‘what redevelopment’
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Deepcut Cobbler
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Il tell you what I do know Clubs will obviously try to get every penny of lost revenue back and I predict that some clubs will do very well out of it.
Obviously, however there will stilll be a significant deficit for all clubs.
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“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2009
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Melbourne Cobbler
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Not really that much of a mystery really. The club turns over 4 million give or take and loses around a million a year so it roughly needs 5 million turnover to break even assuming all of the overhead is covered and there are no cost of sale associated with the additional million? I seem to remember that KT has stated that revenue will be down by around 50% so that equates to a 2 million additional loss plus the million we lose anyway equates to 3 million. It’s true to say that we have reduced some of the overhead and we did sell Charlie Goode but if our financial performance was about average across Division 1 and 2 combined then the total amount needed to cover the total losses in the 2 Divisions would be 144 million? Hopefully fans returning may help a bit too, so you can adjust some of the assumptions and play around with the figures but on any reasonable calculation you won’t get anywhere near covering the total losses with any likely deal that’s struck? Don’t get me wrong, it will help and will hopefully be stay of execution for some clubs. However if anyone is thinking this returns everyone to square one and its now business as usual they are on drugs. Lower league football is right in the 5h1t and this is half a wet wipe IMO.
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Not a real supporter but unelected chair of the Northampton Town Honorary Supporters Club. (Please note: any opinions given may not necessarily be shared by proper supporters. In incidents of conflict the views of real supporters shall take precedence).
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tcobb
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Very well put Melbourne , think you have covered it there Mind you think there might be somebody who thinks there will be a few £1000s left over for transfers, maybe even East Stand completion and 5,000 extra seats
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This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.
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