Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

[GrangeParkCobbler]

What you're going to get is some logistics/distribution warehouses.....maybe a "fans village", possibly a hotel, and maybe a car park.......as well as a completed (whatever that looks like) stand.

That's your lot...... that's the sum total of the regeneration as far as the club is concerned......

[guest49]

What you're going to get is some logistics/distribution warehouses.....maybe a "fans village", possibly a hotel, and maybe a car park.......as well as a completed (whatever that looks like) stand.

That's your lot...... that's the sum total of the regeneration as far as the club is concerned......

We do love a flat pack warehouse in Northampton, whether they have a sitting tenant or not!

[Melbourne Cobbler]

A 5 star hotel with a mega casino and concert/conference facilities attached, and a retail village that’s 10 times easier for people to get to than Bicester? The biggest money spinners out there as far as I can tell? Be nice if the county cricket club moved out to Sixfields, so all 3 sporting clubs were on the same site with combined training fitness centres catering for all 3? We could be really progressive and divert a train line up through there as well with a station eventually to improve transport? Fcuk it, let’s go mad and build another station on the old site of the bus station and a tunnel running under Grafton Street to link up with the train line at Victoria Park, so people can get the train out there from town? Bit like Olympic Park in Melbourne, just moving Crown Casino and the shops a bit nearer, simple? Alternatively they could really push the boat out and build a budget hotel and plonk a couple of warehouses on the site if they want to be really imaginative and progress the town?

[Zen Master]

What we need is an expat with a decent business head on and an irrational love for the Cobblers’s.
Know anyone Melly?

[Horsham Cobbler]

What we need is an expat with a decent business head on and an irrational love for the Cobblers’s.
Know anyone Melly?

... with a few Aussie dollars tucked inside his underpants.

[Melbourne Cobbler]

... with a few Aussie dollars tucked inside his underpants.

Well that’s 2 of the 4 criteria I’m missing.

[Melbourne Cobbler]

In case anyone thinks that getting a train line into the town centre is too difficult, they have removed 46 level crossings in in Melbourne by building flyovers over the roads in question and diverting the trains over the top with 75 in total going by 2025. Think of the flyover on the A45 at Brackmills x 75. Not only does this stop local disruption for car journeys, it also decreases train times into the City. That’s along with a 5km tunnel under the Yarra river to double the capacity currently handled by the West Gate bridge from the West and the 9km Metro tunnel linking the Dandenong and Sunbury train lines massively increasing Melbourne’s rail capacity from the East. Also they are adding up to 3 lanes in each direction over a distance of 36km on the Monash freeway into the city from the South East. I could go on and on. Now Northampton ain’t Melbourne but it just demonstrates the investment required to keep driving a City forward, the level of transport development going on here is breathtaking. It’s just a question of scale, but if you don’t progressively develop your transport network as your population grows then areas start to die. It’s A or B, there is no C. Milton Keynes was built from scratch so it has a massive advantage. Some of the throw away suggestions may be pie in the sky, but the new council has to stop the town treading water and start some progressive and radical planning, otherwise the Town centre and other areas will die? Why are town centres withering away whilst out of town retail areas fair better, think about it, the Victorian government have?

[Zen Master]

I think we still have a Victorian local government.

[guest3086]

An infinity pool on the roof of the north stand would be lovely.

[guest49]

In case anyone thinks that getting a train line into the town centre is too difficult, they have removed 46 level crossings in in Melbourne by building flyovers over the roads in question and diverting the trains over the top with 75 in total going by 2025. Think of the flyover on the A45 at Brackmills x 75. Not only does this stop local disruption for car journeys, it also decreases train times into the City. That’s along with a 5km tunnel under the Yarra river to double the capacity currently handled by the West Gate bridge from the West and the 9km Metro tunnel linking the Dandenong and Sunbury train lines massively increasing Melbourne’s rail capacity from the East. Also they are adding up to 3 lanes in each direction over a distance of 36km on the Monash freeway into the city from the South East. I could go on and on. Now Northampton ain’t Melbourne but it just demonstrates the investment required to keep driving a City forward, the level of transport development going on here is breathtaking. It’s just a question of scale, but if you don’t progressively develop your transport network as your population grows then areas start to die. It’s A or B, there is no C. Milton Keynes was built from scratch so it has a massive advantage. Some of the throw away suggestions may be pie in the sky, but the new council has to stop the town treading water and start some progressive and radical planning, otherwise the Town centre and other areas will die? Why are town centres withering away whilst out of town retail areas fair better, think about it, the Victorian government have?

The pandemic has fast forwarded the world by many years in several areas. Working flexibility for one.
The biggest impact will be online growth and I'm not sure high street retail will ever recover and was already flat on its backside.
It is far easier to order three pairs of jeans in different sizes at the best price, delivered to your door (or Amazon locker) to send them back FOC, than drive, pay for parking, deal with some snotty shop assistant, only to find the store doesn't have your size. I don't see a viable recovery for town centres, outside of food and leisure activities.
Retail parks with Poundlands, pet stores, DIY and Sport Direct (who are shocking online) will continue to do well.

[singcobb]

Well that’s 2 of the 4 criteria I’m missing.

What, Aussie dollars and underpants?

[Melbourne Cobbler]

What, Aussie dollars and underpants?

you’re right, correction I’m missing 3 of the 5 criteria.

[Tabasco Kid]

In case anyone thinks that getting a train line into the town centre is too difficult, they have removed 46 level crossings in in Melbourne by building flyovers over the roads in question and diverting the trains over the top with 75 in total going by 2025. Think of the flyover on the A45 at Brackmills x 75.

Um, two of my least favourite places in the country have flyovers. Luton and Coventry. Both sh1tholes. Add to that, Hammersmith, Newport, where the M4 goes past your bedroom window, and I cannot see why anybody would want to live near one. Or 75.

[singcobb]

In case anyone thinks that getting a train line into the town centre is too difficult,

Just re-open the branch, rebuild St John's Street station and have a park and ride down at Brackmills.

[Manwork04]

Just re-open the branch, rebuild St John's Street station and have a park and ride down at Brackmills.

The way forward would be to have a community stadium 20k seats in between Sixfields and the gardens, this would cater for both football and Rugby in the town and would completely mitigate the horrendous traffic problems when both are playing at home.
Other benefits would be increased gates for football with better facilities and the fact that fans of both sports can watch the Cobbs and Saints.
What’s not to like?

[Zen Master]

Locate it on the Saints training pitch next to the car parks on Edgar Mobbs way. Sell off land at Sixfields and Franklin’s Gardens to pay for it, joint business venture between both clubs with profit and risk share on all facilities. No competition on match day allowing for fans of both not to have to choose. Car parking already in place.

[Manwork04]

Locate it on the Saints training pitch next to the car parks on Edgar Mobbs way. Sell off land at Sixfields and Franklin’s Gardens to pay for it, joint business venture between both clubs with profit and risk share on all facilities. No competition on match day allowing for fans of both not to have to choose. Car parking already in place.

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[tcobb]

Joining forces with the Saints to explore building a new 20,000 capacity shared Stadium would be the ideal way forward. Hand the keys for Sixfields back to the Council and move forward, its becoming apparent the Cobblers future is not at Sixfields.

[Terryfenwickatemyhamster]

Why would the Saints want anything to do with us? They are a successful commercial venture in their own right, with fantastic brand identity and existing excellent facilities.

Imagine how many of the cards they would hold in any business negotiations. They have a ground and the land it sits on for a start. Plus thousands more season ticket holders. Huge corporate entertainment and conferencing facilities, and endorsements that make ours look paltry. Where’s we have a ground and facilities worth a quid. Other than that, I’d imagine they’d bite our hand off 😜😜

[Manwork04]

Why would the Saints want anything to do with us? They are a successful commercial venture in their own right, with fantastic brand identity and existing excellent facilities.

Imagine how many of the cards they would hold in any business negotiations. They have a ground and the land it sits on for a start. Plus thousands more season ticket holders. Huge corporate entertainment and conferencing facilities, and endorsements that make ours look paltry. Where’s we have a ground and facilities worth a quid. Other than that, I’d imagine they’d bite our hand off 😜😜

So it would be good for NTFC then 😉