The Hotel End
October 28, 2021, 08:53:27 am
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
  Home Help Search Arcade Gallery Links Staff List Calendar Login Register  

Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

Pages: 1 ... 1456 1457 1458 1459 1460 1461 1462 [1463] 1464 1465 1466 1467 1468 1469 1470 ... 1493   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?  (Read 1162190 times)
Another Pedj
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1189


View Profile
« Reply #29240 on: September 12, 2021, 20:09:59 pm »

Can someone quickly recap how the Trust went from having a seat on the club board to losing it....and whether this is an underlying issue/cause of bad feeling since it happened.
On a previous comment...I didn't realise the Trust board weren't elected/re-elected by the wider membership.

The Trust representative on the NTFC board had signed a number of papers relating to the 10m loan from the council to NTFC and then to 3rd parties. He was,after legal advice,advised to resign. He did. There was no trust representative at the time of the takeover. KT never agreed to a replacement.
Report Spam   Logged
Carton Lid
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 610


View Profile
« Reply #29241 on: September 12, 2021, 20:20:59 pm »

I didn't realise the Trust board weren't elected/re-elected by the wider membership.
The Trust board are elected if there are more candidates, who have been nominated than there are seats available. If you are a Trust member, you can put yourself up for election. I think you also need a proposer and seconder, who also have to be members
Report Spam   Logged
Melbourne Cobbler
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2004


View Profile
« Reply #29242 on: September 13, 2021, 02:42:46 am »

So let’s imagine hypothetically Board member A and Board member B have an agenda or motive regarding the club. At this point in time they can get a likeminded individual straight onto the board unopposed. What if this is the case at the moment. My personal view is that at least the membership should be given the opportunity to vote and express opinions on each candidate prior to election. As a member there are many individuals I wouldn’t have an opinion about. However, there are certain individuals I wouldn’t want anywhere near the club or the Trust. Seems the right thing to do as far as I am concerned.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2021, 06:06:13 am by Melbourne Cobbler » Report Spam   Logged

Chairman, Paul Stratford Fan Club, and proud member of the Steve Massey Appreciation Society. (Although refuse to be in his fan club on account of his crap goal celebration in front of The Hotel End when playing for Wrexham)
Deepcut Cobbler
Administrator
*****
Online Online

Posts: 12448



View Profile
« Reply #29243 on: September 13, 2021, 07:42:01 am »

why does mean I was then?

That you was in attendance for the presentation?
Can you confirm which four Trust Board members were there to deliver the presentation?
Can you also confirm the names of any other Trust members that were also in attendance?
Thank you
Report Spam   Logged

“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon

The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2009
Terryfenwickatemyhamster
Administrator
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3209


View Profile
« Reply #29244 on: September 13, 2021, 08:45:42 am »

So let’s imagine hypothetically Board member A and Board member B have an agenda or motive regarding the club. At this point in time they can get a likeminded individual straight onto the board unopposed. What if this is the case at the moment. My personal view is that at least the membership should be given the opportunity to vote and express opinions on each candidate prior to election. As a member there are many individuals I wouldn’t have an opinion about. However, there are certain individuals I wouldn’t want anywhere near the club or the Trust. Seems the right thing to do as far as I am concerned.

Yep…. You’d have to be really careful not to create an OBN wouldn’t you… That could so easily happen 😁😁
Report Spam   Logged
guest1269
Guest
« Reply #29245 on: September 13, 2021, 09:33:15 am »

OBN?
Report Spam   Logged
Deepcut Cobbler
Administrator
*****
Online Online

Posts: 12448



View Profile
« Reply #29246 on: September 13, 2021, 09:51:22 am »

OBN?

Old Boys Network? 
Report Spam   Logged

“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon

The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2009
BackOfTheNet
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 4223


View Profile
« Reply #29247 on: September 13, 2021, 09:54:16 am »

The Trust board are elected if there are more candidates, who have been nominated than there are seats available. If you are a Trust member, you can put yourself up for election. I think you also need a proposer and seconder, who also have to be members

So how many of the current board were actually elected by the members? Not a loaded question or anything, I'm just genuinely curious.
Report Spam   Logged

The Hotelend Grand National* Sweepstake Champion 2020
Battery Man
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 308


View Profile
« Reply #29248 on: September 13, 2021, 10:23:29 am »

Because for some reason KT insisted on it as part of them taking control of the club for £1 and NBC writing off £10m

I wondered what reason might be ... forward 2 years from then and the hush hush, top secret £6.68m they got from rather dubious (IMHO) Chinese sources. Make me think, others just look the other way or focus on trashing genuine supporters who are concerned at such actions by the owners.

Random, you continually badmouth KT and the board, and I understand they are not the best owners a club could have. What would the alternative be, you have posted lots of different partial solutions but there is never anything concrete behind it. As much as I would like to see owners in who put the club first in everything what are the Trust and your plans for that, because until we have a proper alternative in place I think most people would rather stick with the devil we know.
Report Spam   Logged
Terryfenwickatemyhamster
Administrator
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3209


View Profile
« Reply #29249 on: September 13, 2021, 10:30:08 am »

So how many of the current board were actually elected by the members? Not a loaded question or anything, I'm just genuinely curious.

What you need to ask. Is how many were co opted on.

Of course. None of it would matter if the main influences aren’t even on the board. Imagine how terrible that would be in terms of reflecting a truly democratic ethos. I mean, it would be crazy if a huge amount of advice was coming from a couple of sources, that completely lack the conviction to actually occupy a seat on the board. Especially after the whole mantra is based on,  “if you care that much, you should join the Trust board”. I really can’t imagine that’s actually happening  8
Report Spam   Logged
Manwork04
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 6105



View Profile
« Reply #29250 on: September 13, 2021, 12:05:16 pm »

Random, you continually badmouth KT and the board, and I understand they are not the best owners a club could have. What would the alternative be, you have posted lots of different partial solutions but there is never anything concrete behind it. As much as I would like to see owners in who put the club first in everything what are the Trust and your plans for that, because until we have a proper alternative in place I think most people would rather stick with the devil we know.
I believe our current owners were close to selling the club quite recently, that is until they upped the price by a third.
Report Spam   Logged

Rule Britannia
Another Pedj
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1189


View Profile
« Reply #29251 on: September 13, 2021, 12:13:09 pm »

If true it confirms the point that the Owners are under no pressure,internally or externally to sell. If you want them out up the offer.
Report Spam   Logged
random
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1122


View Profile
« Reply #29252 on: September 13, 2021, 12:56:48 pm »

Random, you continually badmouth KT and the board, and I understand they are not the best owners a club could have. What would the alternative be, you have posted lots of different partial solutions but there is never anything concrete behind it. As much as I would like to see owners in who put the club first in everything what are the Trust and your plans for that, because until we have a proper alternative in place I think most people would rather stick with the devil we know.

Hi Battery, so you agree, you want a better way, better owners.

Which solution would you like to see going forward?  What do you think to an infrastructure foundation, where instead of a basic £3m east stand finish, it has a bigger share of the land deal, and we look at all the options to improve Sixfields?   (genuine questions)

This is the beginning as far as the Trust is concerned, not the end.

One thing I would also say is, how many plans, either business or development, has our owners but forward?  How many times have they asked us supporters, what we want or need?  How many times has KT delivered on his promises?
Report Spam   Logged
random
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1122


View Profile
« Reply #29253 on: September 13, 2021, 13:00:30 pm »

What you need to ask. Is how many were co opted on.

Of course. None of it would matter if the main influences aren’t even on the board. Imagine how terrible that would be in terms of reflecting a truly democratic ethos. I mean, it would be crazy if a huge amount of advice was coming from a couple of sources, that completely lack the conviction to actually occupy a seat on the board. Especially after the whole mantra is based on,  “if you care that much, you should join the Trust board”. I really can’t imagine that’s actually happening  8

You get more and more desperate don't you.  How many board meetings have you been to?  How many members have been refused to join the board when they have asked?  How many members have been refused to attend board meetings?  The Trust have constantly ask for more people to join and get involved, never once did they say, only if we like you and you agree with us.

There is a virtual board meeting on Thursday, anyone want an invite?  Be really nice to see you all
Report Spam   Logged
Battery Man
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 308


View Profile
« Reply #29254 on: September 13, 2021, 13:56:49 pm »

Hi Battery, so you agree, you want a better way, better owners.

Which solution would you like to see going forward?  What do you think to an infrastructure foundation, where instead of a basic £3m east stand finish, it has a bigger share of the land deal, and we look at all the options to improve Sixfields?   (genuine questions)

This is the beginning as far as the Trust is concerned, not the end.

One thing I would also say is, how many plans, either business or development, has our owners but forward?  How many times have they asked us supporters, what we want or need?  How many times has KT delivered on his promises?


This is where we differ, yes I agree KT hasn't put much forward, but then neither have the trust, it is just a wish list from the trust in reality without backing from the supporter base.
In my opinion the Trust should be talking to the various supporters groups whilst at the same time as talking to potential investors then when they have investors lined up with a valid, thought out and costed plan then go to the wider supporter base get their backing and then go to the council and push forward the proposal.
I don't think we will get anything other than a basic fit out from KT so as a Club we need to ensure we are all pulling together, unfortunately the way you constantly attack people who don't agree with your viewpoint is not helping us to move forward.
You can't just have half a dozen people at the trust pushing this agenda or it will never work, it needs to be a team effort.
Report Spam   Logged
Carton Lid
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 610


View Profile
« Reply #29255 on: September 13, 2021, 14:17:41 pm »



In my opinion the Trust should be talking to the various supporters groups whilst at the same time as talking to potential investors then when they have investors lined up with a valid, thought out and costed plan then go to the wider supporter base get their backing and then go to the council and push forward the proposal.

This would be VERY difficult as the price for NTFC can change by the day, like it did a couple of years ago when KT quoted a price to someone and then a couple of days later quoted a different price to someone else, the difference was £1M !
Report Spam   Logged
cobblertone
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 4064


View Profile
« Reply #29256 on: September 13, 2021, 14:56:03 pm »

This would be VERY difficult as the price for NTFC can change by the day, like it did a couple of years ago when KT quoted a price to someone and then a couple of days later quoted a different price to someone else, the difference was £1M !

It's all down to the volatile price of Sixfields methane.
Report Spam   Logged

All he had to do was build a stand.
MCHammer
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 482


View Profile
« Reply #29257 on: September 13, 2021, 22:16:27 pm »

This would be VERY difficult as the price for NTFC can change by the day, like it did a couple of years ago when KT quoted a price to someone and then a couple of days later quoted a different price to someone else, the difference was £1M !

Have the Trust ever made an approach to buy the club or made enquiries as to what it would cost?  What were they quoted?
Report Spam   Logged
Deepcut Cobbler
Administrator
*****
Online Online

Posts: 12448



View Profile
« Reply #29258 on: September 14, 2021, 00:42:45 am »

Quote from: random on September 12, 2021, 19:58:05 pm
why does mean I was then?

That you was in attendance for the presentation?
Can you confirm which four Trust Board members were there to deliver the presentation?
Can you also confirm the names of any other Trust members that were also in attendance?
Thank you

Dear Random,
Can you answer the questions?
Thank you...
Report Spam   Logged

“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon

The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2009
Terryfenwickatemyhamster
Administrator
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3209


View Profile
« Reply #29259 on: September 14, 2021, 10:47:53 am »

This would be VERY difficult as the price for NTFC can change by the day, like it did a couple of years ago when KT quoted a price to someone and then a couple of days later quoted a different price to someone else, the difference was £1M !

And you think that’s unusual.

If we had a player for sale. The price would totally depend on who is asking. That’s not uncommon in all walks of business.

When I was working in property acquisitions. We never purchased under the name of the main group.
Report Spam   Logged
Pages: 1 ... 1456 1457 1458 1459 1460 1461 1462 [1463] 1464 1465 1466 1467 1468 1469 1470 ... 1493   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by EzPortal
Parental guidance is urged as this messageboard may not be suitable for all persons especially those under the age of 16 as the forums may contain words, phrases and expressions not considered appropriate for a younger audience so please express caution. If any posts in the forums offend you, please let us know and we will look at them and if we agree with your complaint, we will remove them. You are personally responsible and potentially liable for the contents of your posting and may be sued should your posting contain content of a defamatory or other illegal nature. Every message posted leaves a traceable IP number. We check the forums at various times of the day and remove offending posts. Other supporters are welcome but abusive or silly posts will be removed and the offenders potentially barred from future access to the site. We advise that you never reveal any personal information about yourself or anyone else (for example: telephone number, home address or email address), and please do not include postal addresses of any kind. This messageboard is not endorsed or in any way affiliated with Northampton Town FC. All postings on this board become copyright of The Hotel End & may not be reproduced without the permission of the board administrator. By signing up to this message board you agree to this. The Hotel End cannot be held liable for the actions or postings of its members. The Hotel End reserve the right to edit, delete, move or close any thread for any reason. The Hotel End may disclose user information to government authorities at their discretion or when required by law. The Hotel End may also disclose user information when The Hotel End has reason to believe that someone is causing injury to or interference with its rights or property, other The Hotel End users, or anyone else that could be harmed by such activities. By registering for The Hotel End, you agree to indemnify The Hotel End its representatives, and agents, and hold them harmless from any and all claims (including claims for legal fees) which may arise from your participation on the The Hotel End. You also agree that The Hotel End is not responsible for the materials posted by users of The Hotel End. In addition, you grant The Hotel End and its affiliates, worldwide, royalty-free perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display any message or content posted on The Hotel End and/or e-mail sent by you to The Hotel End (in whole or in part). The Hotel End reserves the right to make the rules up as it goes along. Thank you - The Hotel End I love Quidco
Bookmark this site! | Upgrade This Forum
SMFServer.com - Create your own Forum

Powered by SMF | SMF © 2016, Simple Machines
Privacy Policy