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« Reply #29200 on: September 22, 2021, 11:45:11 am »

CW, was KT wrong in not approaching the Trust for their views on a Supporter Board member?

Does it underline the fact that KT has no interest in resolving any differences and is now trying to divide the supporter base even further?

I am all for everyone working together, you think KT will take my call?
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« Reply #29201 on: September 22, 2021, 20:30:17 pm »

CW, was KT wrong in not approaching the Trust for their views on a Supporter Board member?

Does it underline the fact that KT has no interest in resolving any differences and is now trying to divide the supporter base even further? - sadly I suspect so - see my other post on the democratically elected board member

I am all for everyone working together, you think KT will take my call?
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« Reply #29202 on: September 22, 2021, 21:32:23 pm »

Although mentioned in a lighthearted way you raise an important point - resolution of the current situation requires a level of diplomacy and ability to concede some ground - the everything is ďblack or whiteĒ brigade  are unlikely to achieve anything positive and unfortunately the more outspoken (or ultra repetitive) individuals only succeed in polarising opinion.
It truly is black and white,  all or nothing, our club either sink or swims. It competes or it continues to bounce along on the bones of its arse. It challenges in L1 or rots in L2.
It engages with its catchment and local businesses to grow the supporters base and infrastructure or it allows outsider speculators to continually mothball our club..
For me it's far more than just having a supporters voice on the board, it's not having Thomas voice on it!
Yes that's how bad I see things, Thomas is persona non grata at our club, he hasn't done a single thing in 6 years to benefit the long term health of our club.
 There's nothing he can do for ntfc, so for that reason I believe he needs to be encouraged to do what they did at Oxford and Torquay...Ask him to leave.
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« Reply #29203 on: September 22, 2021, 21:43:53 pm »

I can see the possibility of a few defamation cases flying around in the next few weeks?
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« Reply #29204 on: September 23, 2021, 01:23:42 am »

It truly is black and white,  all or nothing, our club either sink or swims. It competes or it continues to bounce along on the bones of its arse. It challenges in L1 or rots in L2.
It engages with its catchment and local businesses to grow the supporters base and infrastructure or it allows outsider speculators to continually mothball our club..
For me it's far more than just having a supporters voice on the board, it's not having Thomas voice on it!
Yes that's how bad I see things, Thomas is persona non grata at our club, he hasn't done a single thing in 6 years to benefit the long term health of our club.
 There's nothing he can do for ntfc, so for that reason I believe he needs to be encouraged to do what they did at Oxford and Torquay...Ask him to leave.
Might be the same old conversation but operating for 6 years facilitating considerable transfer activity without any outside debt is an impressive achievement. If he leaves what strategy does anyone have in place to secure the immediate financial security of the club. Please avoid the use of terms like well wishers and businesses without being specific because it will be meaningless. The problem people have on your side of the argument is that a significant proportion of the fan base are concerned that we go down the toilet without them. So they believe we are swimming and the option you offer means we sink like a stone. Without addressing those concerns with a realistic plan that offers hope, you will be wasting your time as much as ever. I have enough conversations with enough people to believe this is fact and until this is disproved by a democratic process the owners will be staying right where they are until they and only they decide otherwise. If I am wrong someone with your opinion will end up on the board so we may be about to find out? I know you will be extremely disappointed by this and will probably refuse to accept it but you were saying all this 3 years ago plus and we are still under the same ownership so your stamina is impressive.
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« Reply #29205 on: September 23, 2021, 02:55:29 am »

I can see the possibility of a few defamation cases flying around in the next few weeks?

 Grin I wouldn't waste your time Evers, you'll be laughed out of court.
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« Reply #29206 on: September 25, 2021, 21:18:26 pm »

The Dubai fellow is too old now and wants shot of this shambles. One aim now. Release the Chiroptera.
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« Reply #29207 on: September 25, 2021, 21:59:30 pm »

The Dubai fellow is too old now and wants shot of this shambles. One aim now. Release the Chiroptera.

What an assinine statement. You are better than this.
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« Reply #29208 on: September 26, 2021, 11:47:53 am »

Grin I wouldn't waste your time Evers, you'll be laughed out of court.

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« Reply #29209 on: September 26, 2021, 18:38:16 pm »

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It would be difficult to claim your reputation is ruined by comments on an unofficial message board with a couple of thousand views. You should try reading some of the unofficial Prem boards, it will make you hair curl.
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« Reply #29210 on: September 26, 2021, 20:30:34 pm »

It would be difficult to claim your reputation is ruined by comments on an unofficial message board with a couple of thousand views. You should try reading some of the unofficial Prem boards, it will make you hair curl.


I think Steve Massey got the wrong end of the stick. It was not my reputation in question; hence the ? I just remember the Blackpool Case involving their Chairman and yes it did end up in court! 

PS   Grin How did you know I need a haircut.  Cool
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« Reply #29211 on: September 27, 2021, 02:53:01 am »

Larry was correct.. no stick involved. Your reputation here is already in tatters.  Cheesy

If I remember correctly Evers, you were threatening people with court cases all over the place during our discussions about the now disgraced former Chairman arrested in connection with financial irregularities.

Are you a claim anything slips, trips and falls man, pushing up everyone's premiums?

https://www.national-accident-helpline.co.uk/making-a-claim
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« Reply #29212 on: September 27, 2021, 18:33:10 pm »

Larry was correct.. no stick involved. Your reputation here is already in tatters.  Cheesy

If I remember correctly Evers, you were threatening people with court cases all over the place during our discussions about the now disgraced former Chairman arrested in connection with financial irregularities.

Are you a claim anything slips, trips and falls man, pushing up everyone's premiums?

https://www.national-accident-helpline.co.uk/making-a-claim

Not sure what you are on about; I certainly never threatened people with court cases during the Cardoza era; so you are not correct. An apology is appreciated..
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« Reply #29213 on: October 01, 2021, 19:08:34 pm »

Redevelopment of sorts.... The old South Car Park is set to get it's own warehouse!!

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/politics/council/plans-submitted-to-build-warehouse-on-top-of-northampton-car-park-notorious-for-fly-tipping-3404568
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« Reply #29214 on: October 02, 2021, 00:10:37 am »

Iíve mentioned this before but FFS. In most bridging Towns and Cities the river is the focal point and part of the identity and civic pride of the community. Take Melbourne, a walk along the Yarra is fantastic pretty much whichever stretch you pick. Parks, hotels, bars, restaurants, retail, Sea Life Aquarium, Crown Casino, Olympic Park, I could list the attractions all day. Any photographs of Melbourne invariably include the river and that goes for almost every town with one running through it. There is that whole stretch of river from Carlsberg right through to Sixfields crying out for development. With a bit of imagination think what you could do with it, with Sixfields and the Saints integrated into the whole scheme. Northampton Town Centre is dying yet an effective travel link from South Bridge along the old Bedford line through the development and similarly from All Saints to South Bridge such as a tram line could effectively link the 2 and be the catalyst to regenerate and kick start the whole town. Instead of blowing any available money on a stand, if the club was smart it could invest in a protected stake holding in that development and generate an income outside of football to support the club financially for generations to come. All it needs is a progressive thinking council, like minded developers, some motivation and a few dreams. On the other hand letís build another warehouse. Northampton has a motto of Castello Fortior Concordia - Peace is stronger than a fortress. Perhaps it should be changed, how do you say ďfcuk it thatíll doĒ in Latin? Maybe I am deluded, but you just want to put your head in your hands and weep.
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« Reply #29215 on: October 02, 2021, 00:36:35 am »

Iíve mentioned this before but FFS. In most bridging Towns and Cities the river is the focal point and part of the identity and civic pride of the community. Take Melbourne, a walk along the Yarra is fantastic pretty much whichever stretch you pick. Parks, hotels, bars, restaurants, retail, Sea Life Aquarium, Crown Casino, Olympic Park, I could list the attractions all day. Any photographs of Melbourne invariably include the river and that goes for almost every town with one running through it. There is that whole stretch of river from Carlsberg right through to Sixfields crying out for development. With a bit of imagination think what you could do with it, with Sixfields and the Saints integrated into the whole scheme. Northampton Town Centre is dying yet an effective travel link from South Bridge along the old Bedford line through the development and similarly from All Saints to South Bridge such as a tram line could effectively link the 2 and be the catalyst to regenerate and kick start the whole town. Instead of blowing any available money on a stand, if the club was smart it could invest in a protected stake holding in that development and generate an income outside of football to support the club financially for generations to come. All it needs is a progressive thinking council, like minded developers, some motivation and a few dreams. On the other hand letís build another warehouse. Northampton has a motto of Castello Fortior Concordia - Peace is stronger than a fortress. Perhaps it should be changed, how do you say ďfcuk it thatíll doĒ in Latin? Maybe I am deluded, but you just want to put your head in your hands and weep.

Carrow Road Norwich would be a good UK example, next to a canal and bars restaurants along the embankment a short walk away from the ground..amazing idea  Huh? Huh?
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« Reply #29216 on: October 02, 2021, 10:57:45 am »

I think we would first have to raise the profile of the club itself in order for it to fit with the utopian dream. At the moment most planners would probably want to exclude it from being any part of that.
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« Reply #29217 on: October 02, 2021, 11:16:40 am »

I think we would first have to raise the profile of the club itself in order for it to fit with the utopian dream. At the moment most planners would probably want to exclude it from being any part of that.

Depends what conditions the council want to apply to the redevelopment of the area. They either want the land deal to benefit the club or they donít? In any event with Sixfields & the Saints slap bang in the middle of it they either integrate it into the wider development or they donít get planning permission for the gig, itís not complicated.
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« Reply #29218 on: October 02, 2021, 11:32:58 am »

Totally agree Melly, as I have said, this land deal is a once in a generation opportunity and filling the land with warehouses right up to a very basic East stand benefits no-one, ok just 2 people not even living in the county let alone the country  Grin

The problem is that it's too big an idea, the council even now will want to protect the town centre.  Angry

A compromise could be that some of the 22 acres is used for warehousing to generate a profit BUT the money MUST go into the football club to create facilities that not only benefit the club but also the people of Northampton.

We can add to the land deal funds with partnering with others, hotels or restaurants, conference etc, get various sporting grants, crowdfund, bond issues etc. Other club have done it and are doing it

Why not us?  Pie in sky??  Whats the alternative?

We lie back and allow KT to tickle our tummies, then walking away have bagged around £15m from NTFC. And we get 202 extra seats and 8 corporate boxes?   Wake up people please !!!!!

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« Reply #29219 on: October 02, 2021, 11:52:56 am »

Totally agree Melly, as I have said, this land deal is a once in a generation opportunity and filling the land with warehouses right up to a very basic East stand benefits no-one, ok just 2 people not even living in the county let alone the country  Grin

The problem is that it's too big an idea, the council even now will want to protect the town centre.  Angry

A compromise could be that some of the 22 acres is used for warehousing to generate a profit BUT the money MUST go into the football club to create facilities that not only benefit the club but also the people of Northampton.

We can add to the land deal funds with partnering with others, hotels or restaurants, conference etc, get various sporting grants, crowdfund, bond issues etc. Other club have done it and are doing it

Why not us?  Pie in sky??  Whats the alternative?

We lie back and allow KT to tickle our tummies, then walking away have bagged around £15m from NTFC. And we get 202 extra seats and 8 corporate boxes?   Wake up people please !!!!!


Quite a few live away from the UK on here!

Ps I don't think your repetitive mantra works on here! Are you really a Trust Board Member?
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