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Bed's ambitions for the club are reasonable and there are very few people who don't want us to aspire to a 12,000 plus stadium but it's the constant bitching about the owners and the belief that we are somehow entitled to something more than we are actually getting that has become more than tedious.
We are taking steps in the right direction under the current owners - the East Stand isn't fantastic but it's a legacy from a major fraud and not attributed to the current owners - I truly believe with the East Stand completed, maintaining gates of 6-7k and possibly new/additional ownership, extension of the North and South will actually happen in the not too distant future.
Can people actually envisage what would have happened if the Trust's aborted partnership with Cildara had actually happened - it's obvious to anyone with an iota of business acume - the club would have been well and truly shafted, even if they had managed to hang onto their beloved ACV land which might have just generated just enough revenue to pay one players wages but no East Stand completion and no income to support the exiting directors loan or indeed the day to day running of the club - i.e. NO NTFC
Well..... They had two cracks at the whip. Both embarrassing failures. It will always reflect on them. I remember Derek (before he was banned from coming on here by his owner) harping on about how everyone would be greeting them with open arms soon. I very much doubt they would be anyone's choice, even in the worse case scenario. Taking into account what an abject failure their dealing turned out to be. |
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Bed's ambitions for the club are reasonable and there are very few people who don't want us to aspire to a 12,000 plus stadium but it's the constant bitching about the owners and the belief that we are somehow entitled to something more than we are actually getting that has become more than tedious.
We are taking steps in the right direction under the current owners - the East Stand isn't fantastic but it's a legacy from a major fraud and not attributed to the current owners - I truly believe with the East Stand completed, maintaining gates of 6-7k and possibly new/additional ownership, extension of the North and South will actually happen in the not too distant future.
Can people actually envisage what would have happened if the Trust's aborted partnership with Cildara had actually happened - it's obvious to anyone with an iota of business acume - the club would have been well and truly shafted, even if they had managed to hang onto their beloved ACV land which might have just generated just enough revenue to pay one players wages but no East Stand completion and no income to support the exiting directors loan or indeed the day to day running of the club - i.e. NO NTFC
I think that's whole thing that plenty of us were making a fuss and calling them out about. It was never personal and, despite what was being thrown back at us, never about blind devotion to KT. They were just completely in the wrong and couldn't see it. They still can't, which is why they seem to have retreated to their bunker and pulled down the shutters because they think we're all against them, especially in the "Hotelend echo chamber" (which is a phrase in itself so lacking in self awareness it's hilarious) Personally, while I genuinely think it's a crying shame that we no longer have a functioning Trust, I'm done with them. I've tried to make them see what they were doing wrong until I'm blue in the face and it's pointless. They are now a spent force and will remain so until there's a sea change at the top. Until that happens, they've played all their cards and can no longer pose a threat, so they are completely off my radar. |
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BedsCobb
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I would argue that his end game is very similar to the majority of us on this board; 12-15,000 capacity, Championship level football, better facilities etc ..
The difference is his business plan of how we would achieve it, especially with an owner that isn't a multi billionaire.
We don't need multi millionaires, just use a small bit the 24 acre of land that includes 4 acres of Sixfields footprint.. That alone is enough to fit out the tiny east stand and give us a 3000 bank of terracing up behind the South stand, giving Sixfields a 10,500 capacity in which to sell more tickets for the several bigger L1 games...The owners can have the other 15 acres with all our best wishes.. Why hasn't this happened already? Could it be something to do with the incredulous £16 ,000.0000 debt I'm hearing that has/is appearing in the Cobblers name? Can anyone confirm or deny this awful scenario isn't about to befall our club, killing off all hopes of our clubs chances of growth in most of our lifetimes. |
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Has he been banned from Facebook? |
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We don't need multi millionaires, just use a small bit the 24 acre of land that includes 4 acres of Sixfields footprint.. That alone is enough to fit out the tiny east stand and give us a 3000 bank of terracing up behind the South stand, giving Sixfields a 10,500 capacity in which to sell more tickets for the several bigger L1 games...The owners can have the other 15 acres with all our best wishes..
Why hasn't this happened already?
Could it be something to do with the incredulous
£16 ,000.0000 debt I'm hearing that has/is appearing in the Cobblers name?
Can anyone confirm or deny this awful scenario isn't about to befall our club, killing off all hopes of our clubs chances of growth in most of our lifetimes.
You love copy and paste. Unless you can back these with evidence, you are very much in the slender territory. Nothing you ever say supports the club. You probably don’t even support cobblers.
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Has he been banned from Facebook?
He launched one of his diatribes on the Chron’s FB page last week |
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I’ll drop this in for the umpteenth time, the amount of debt the club may have is only relevant if it is to an external body. If it is to the owners then it is completely irrelevant. Any commentary regarding debt is meaningless unless it is quantified by stating who the debt is to. I have no idea why people are still struggling with this concept.
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Let me make one thing absolutely clear, the Trust “advisor” is not god. Are you going to tell him or shall I?
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£16 ,000.0000 debt I'm hearing that has/is appearing in the Cobblers name?
Can anyone confirm or deny this
No... Is the honest answer Dave. Who have you heard it from? Is it the same well known anti club group that said KT & DB would lose the JR. The ones that said they wouldn't finish the East stand. And the same ones that said they will be gone within hours, if they win the JR. The same ones who said the training ground will never happen. Or was it an honest source. |
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No... Is the honest answer Dave. Who have you heard it from? Is it the same well known anti club group that said KT & DB would lose the JR. The ones that said they wouldn't finish the East stand. And the same ones that said they will be gone within hours, if they win the JR. The same ones who said the training ground will never happen. Or was it an honest source.
“The club is likely to have £16 million projected debt to accommodate the purchase of the land and completion of the stand. We hope that future land/plot sales will at the very least ensure the club becomes debt free. - A fans village has been considered as part of wider redevelopment of the West Stand car” Cut and pasted from the trust’s last news letter, note the word “likely”! |
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DavCobb
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“The club is likely to have £16 million projected debt to accommodate the purchase of the land and completion of the stand. We hope that future land/plot sales will at the very least ensure the club becomes debt free.
- A fans village has been considered as part of wider redevelopment of the West Stand car”
Cut and pasted from the trust’s last news letter, note the word “likely”!
I'm guessing that is basic maths. The existing debt + the purchase of the land + the completion of the stand. I've always said that no one is riding off into the sunset with huge profits, certainly not for the time and money invested in the project. |
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I'm guessing that is basic maths. The existing debt + the purchase of the land + the completion of the stand.
I've always said that no one is riding off into the sunset with huge profits, certainly not for the time and money invested in the project.
Absolute none sense, Bower has been to about 5 games since he acquired the club, he’s in it for the profit, and fair play to him, but don’t make out he’s in it for the love of the club. |
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singcobb
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I honestly don't know why you idiots reply to this troll.
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Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
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DavCobb
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Absolute none sense, Bower has been to about 5 games since he acquired the club, he’s in it for the profit, and fair play to him, but don’t make out he’s in it for the love of the club.
Didn’t suggest he was. I was trying to add up to £16m |
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Didn’t suggest he was. I was trying to add up to £16m
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BedsCobb
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I think that's whole thing that plenty of us were making a fuss and calling them out about. It was never personal and, despite what was being thrown back at us, never about blind devotion to KT.
They were just completely in the wrong and couldn't see it. They still can't, which is why they seem to have retreated to their bunker and pulled down the shutters because they think we're all against them, especially in the "Hotelend echo chamber" (which is a phrase in itself so lacking in self awareness it's hilarious)
Personally, while I genuinely think it's a crying shame that we no longer have a functioning Trust, I'm done with them. I've tried to make them see what they were doing wrong until I'm blue in the face and it's pointless. They are now a spent force and will remain so until there's a sea change at the top. Until that happens, they've played all their cards and can no longer pose a threat, so they are completely off my radar.
I doubt anyone takes personal anything to do with failures at our football club to expand the ground in order to grow it's product and attract a new support base. Many those who defended the latest owners overseeing the more recent decade of mothballing are feeling deflated at the disappearing running track and the underwhelming little non league stand parading as one worth £5 800,000! The biggest losers are yet again NTFC , doomed to lower league football for the next 20 years . |
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BedsCobb
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Because its not in his interest.. Just us, the supporters of NTFC who will be condemned to watching a struggling lower league football club for the next 20 years. |
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BedsCobb
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I’ll drop this in for the umpteenth time, the amount of debt the club may have is only relevant if it is to an external b⁸ody. If it is to the owners then it is completely irrelevant. Any commentary regarding debt is meaningless unless it is quantified by stating who the debt is to. I have no idea why people are still struggling with this concept.
Unfortunately we HAD 24 acres of land that will probably cover these debts and with it any hopes of a cobblers ground expansion...Perhaps? Very sad if its this what unfolding! Maybe you're struggling with that concept? |
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Because its not in his interest..
Just us, the supporters of NTFC who will be condemned to watching a struggling lower league football club for the next 20 years.
FFS you don't even go & are allegedly in cahoots setting up a rival club!!! In my 42 years of being an actual supporter & attending games, we've always yo-yo'd between the bottom two divisions & I fully accept that. Unless a rich benefactor buys the club & pays stupid wages etc, we always will be a yo yo club imo. At least we've still got an actual club to support... Suggest you just crack on with your new rival club venture & prove us all wrong eh!? Life is far too short to be repeating yourself time after time about the same things over & over again on here surely. |
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