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To be fair Evers, it is true to say that both DC and AB did indeed make bold statements regarding signings. DC with his "exciting" and AB with his "15 strikers". It all did lead us to believe that we'd have something a bit special to look forward to. OK, idiot and liar might be a bit strong but it's fair to say that AB hasn't improved his credibility. And then how he set us up at York didn't do anything to dispel those awful memories of Wembley.
So I can understand a lot of the dissent currently flying about. Apparently he's come out today and said don't panic, the strikers we have now are better than Bayo! Well if that's the case, our third best striker last year was top scorer because we have the same now (minus Bayo) than we did then!
A lot of what he says doesn't make sense. But for me, it's his tactical inflexibility that's the problem. Yes, he got us from near bottom to play-offs but let's not paper over the fact that we were like two different sides home and away last year (at least the results were) and however hard I try I still can't understand why you want to set up a side that wins 10 straight at home into a defensive block away....
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Because you're under more pressure defensively at away games than home games, and 3 points at home and 1 away gets you promotion.
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C'mon Welly. You know as well as I do that's a cop out. We could and should have won more away from home last year. If you only only set up for a point away from home you're going to get more disappointment than you are joy. I can accept keeping it tight against the better teams but you still have to have ambition. I don't think many would have considered York in the the top 5 teams this year yet still AB insists on adopting an approach that arguably cost us automatic promotion last season. Yes, last season was a big improvement in terms of finishing position. Maybe I'm "ungrateful" but if we'd have shown even a fraction more ambition away from home on the majority of occasions, we could have comfortably got an auto place. I keep saying this to the point that I'm sounding obtuse but there is no reason why a side that is so dominant at home should have the joint worst away record!
If you want to throw that old cliche about win at home, draw away then what about "defence starts from the front" or "setting up defensively actually invites pressure" or "the opposition can't score if you have the ball". And anyway, you have to be able to live up to the cliche. If last season did nothing else, it proved we can't.
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And we seem to be ignoring all those very fortunate home wins last year, I don't seeing us replicating that this time around, I hope I'm wrong. It's the impact on the attendances that worries me, last year was a bit of a chore but was bearable because of the results, without th result all you have is the chore
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It's the impact on the attendances that worries me, last year was a bit of a chore but was bearable because of the results, without th result all you have is the chore
This is what worries me more than anything, I'm a season ticket holder and its hard work attending at the moment. Personally I think the club should have addressed the Wembley debacle head on, it has left a bad taste with a lot of fans and the slashing of the budget as a result hasn't helped. A massive PR disaster from the club and arguable the biggest mistake of DC tenure and there have been a few! Attendances will be the lowest in the sixfields era this season which means only one thing and even smaller budget next season. £12m new development or not. |
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There are 4 of us down South and most pick and choose games now, why waste the entire Saturday and £100 to turn up and not be entertained. We continue to go because we support the club but the club has lost that blind commitment.
What was interesting to see on Tuesday was just how many young kids and teens were there supporting MK, it was evident that we were severely lacking in that in our support on Tuesday.
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C'mon Welly. You know as well as I do that's a cop out. We could and should have won more away from home last year. If you only only set up for a point away from home you're going to get more disappointment than you are joy. I can accept keeping it tight against the better teams but you still have to have ambition. I don't think many would have considered York in the the top 5 teams this year yet still AB insists on adopting an approach that arguably cost us automatic promotion last season.
I don't disagree with a lot of your comments but having watched nearly all of the away games last season the side invariable picked it self and that includes Bayo left out! So the personnel did not change a lot (except Guttridge mysterious omission) and it was difficult to see much change in tactics H & A either. We were certainly too adventurous against Rotherham and Chesterfield and paid the price. York were the better side on the day against us but unfortunately out tactics are very dependant on how in particular our midfield performs. Against York it was awful but better against MKDons! We have nether been an adventurous side over the past 60 years except perhaps in Carr's team. We simply don't have the players to achieve the adventurous style you advocate. |
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This is what worries me more than anything, I'm a season ticket holder and its hard work attending at the moment.
Personally I think the club should have addressed the Wembley debacle head on, it has left a bad taste with a lot of fans and the slashing of the budget as a result hasn't helped. A massive PR disaster from the club and arguable the biggest mistake of DC tenure and there have been a few!
Attendances will be the lowest in the sixfields era this season which means only one thing and even smaller budget next season. £12m new development or not.
It could easily be the opposite of what you suggest. Your acting the part of a doomsday soothsayer. There is also a creeping negativity in your post. Try again tomorrow after a good breakfast. |
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It could easily be the opposite of what you suggest. Your acting the part of a doomsday soothsayer. There is also a creeping negativity in your post. Try again tomorrow after a good breakfast.
By opposite if you mean increased attendances I hope your right but I don't see it myself. Slightly negative I admit but doomsday soothsayer is a slight over reaction I don't think its the end by any means but I can see why there's negativity around the club at the moment and in my opinion it could have or some of it could have been avoided with the correct PR handling. As I say only an opinion and I will look forward to breakfast in the morning.... |
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I am absolutely baffled how anyone can say being an NTFC season ticket holder is hard work at the moment.
We had one of the top 5 home records in the entire 92 last season, and some of those wins were very good games to watch e.g. Fleetwood and Cheltenham in the Play Offs. Admittedly some were 'grind it out' wins but that's what every team needs in this league, it's not La Liga.
I felt that I got very good value from my s/t last year. If you asked me the same about the Sampson and Johnson reigns, I wouldn't be able to give you a positive answer.
I agree that the away form remains a flaw, and that's what cost us automatic promotion last season. Wembley was also a bitter blow, but one which can be recovered from.
However we're 2 games in to a 50 game+ season, and have played 1 league game. We're also without 4 of our key players: Platt, Langmead, Hornby and Hackett. Plus obviously Nicholls long term.
I suggest a more rational thing to do would be to look at our standing come the end of September, 9 games in to the season we'll have a much better idea of how the table might start to look come May.
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Time for you to calm down, young man. Chucking around words like 'stupid' and 'liar' is wildly over the top. So many supporters keep ranting about Aidy or Cardoza's comments re. 'Four or five exciting signings'. Well, within a few weeks, I reckon we'll find that Carter, Deegan, Morris and Amankwah are all improvements on their predecessors. OK - maybe DC shouldn't have used the word 'exciting'. Maybe 'encouraging' would have been better. But some of you lot really need to give it a rest. Have a lie down. Wait for the season to develop and just see how things finish up. There is no evidence that we can't enjoy a good season. As Aidy said in his interview today, "At the end of August last year, we had three points. We finished in the play-offs."
Relax, smile and enjoy the ride.
I'm very relaxed and sleeping well thank you KK. My decision not to renew my season ticket has proved to be the correct one  You can gloss it up however you want. Call it lying, exaggeration or naivety, DC and AB said what they said for a reason. Whether they were rattling the begging bowl, only they know. What it has done is left a lot of supporters feeling that they have mislead us into believing we were going to attract a higher quality of player than what we have brought in. The signings of Amankwaah, Morris etc remind me of the panic buying of the poisoned dwarf a couple of years back. I think you'll be proved wrong about our signings, with the exception of Carter. Fair play for remaining positive though, I'm sure this season will test even the most deluded of supporters on here  I don't believe we will be relegation candidates, a mundane mid table existence is what I expect of this squad under AB's tutelage. I really hope I'm proved wrong, it gives me no pleasure to say these things. |
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Jesus - I thought Nutters were banned from this Board
No, you appear to be going stronger than ever oh grandiose one |
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This is what worries me more than anything, I'm a season ticket holder and its hard work attending at the moment.
Personally I think the club should have addressed the Wembley debacle head on, it has left a bad taste with a lot of fans and the slashing of the budget as a result hasn't helped. A massive PR disaster from the club and arguable the biggest mistake of DC tenure and there have been a few!
Attendances will be the lowest in the sixfields era this season which means only one thing and even smaller budget next season. £12m new development or not.
Our supporters are dropping like flies. People just aren't being entertained. I'm sure Newport will help us reach the magic 4k mark on Saturday though!  |
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Have you got any hard evidence/stats to back that claim up?
I think our attendances in the last 4 years have been fairly solid given a) we nearly dropped into the conference 2 years running and b) the economy is screwed.
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Have you got any hard evidence/stats to back that claim up?
I think our attendances in the last 4 years have been fairly solid given a) we nearly dropped into the conference 2 years running and b) the economy is screwed.
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Have you got any hard evidence/stats to back that claim up?
I think our attendances in the last 4 years have been fairly solid given a) we nearly dropped into the conference 2 years running and b) the economy is screwed.
True, they have been. But I know of seven season ticket holders who haven't renewed for this season. Four of those have been STH's for over eighteen years. They can't be the only ones who have decided to cherry pick games this year, can they?  |
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JollyCobbler
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I don't disagree with a lot of your comments but having watched nearly all of the away games last season the side invariable picked it self and that includes Bayo left out! So the personnel did not change a lot (except Guttridge mysterious omission) and it was difficult to see much change in tactics H & A either. We were certainly too adventurous against Rotherham and Chesterfield and paid the price. York were the better side on the day against us but unfortunately out tactics are very dependant on how in particular our midfield performs. Against York it was awful but better against MKDons! We have nether been an adventurous side over the past 60 years except perhaps in Carr's team. We simply don't have the players to achieve the adventurous style you advocate.
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I don't disagree with a lot of your comments but having watched nearly all of the away games last season the side invariable picked it self and that includes Bayo left out! So the personnel did not change a lot (except Guttridge mysterious omission) and it was difficult to see much change in tactics H & A either. We were certainly too adventurous against Rotherham and Chesterfield and paid the price. York were the better side on the day against us but unfortunately out tactics are very dependant on how in particular our midfield performs. Against York it was awful but better against MKDons! We have nether been an adventurous side over the past 60 years except perhaps in Carr's team. We simply don't have the players to achieve the adventurous style you advocate.
I think if you are including the last 60 years you will find that we were quite adventurous going up from the old 4th and 3rd divisions when Holton and Ashworth scored goals for fun. |
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I'm very relaxed and sleeping well thank you KK. My decision not to renew my season ticket has proved to be the correct one You can gloss it up however you want. Call it lying, exaggeration or naivety, DC and AB said what they said for a reason. Whether they were rattling the begging bowl, only they know. What it has done is left a lot of supporters feeling that they have mislead us into believing we were going to attract a higher quality of player than what we have brought in. The signings of Amankwaah, Morris etc remind me of the panic buying of the poisoned dwarf a couple of years back. I think you'll be proved wrong about our signings, with the exception of Carter. Fair play for remaining positive though, I'm sure this season will test even the most deluded of supporters on here I don't believe we will be relegation candidates, a mundane mid table existence is what I expect of this squad under AB's tutelage. I really hope I'm proved wrong, it gives me no pleasure to say these things. Good response Birdpoo. I'm glad you're sleeping well. You must tell me your secret :-) I agree with much of what you say, but not all. I am currently more optimistic about this season than many other posters, but then I usually am and I regularly seem to be proved wrong. Ah well :-) |
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I'm very relaxed and sleeping well thank you KK..... jolly good
What it has done is left a lot of supporters feeling that they have mislead us into believing we were going to attract a higher quality of player than what we have brought in................poor dear go to mumsie
The signings of Amankwaah, Morris etc remind me of the panic buying of the poisoned dwarf a couple of years back...........about as poisonous as you
I don't believe we will be relegation candidates, a mundane mid table existence is what I expect of this squad under AB's tutelage........thank goodness for that
I really hope I'm proved wrong, it gives me no pleasure to say these things..........no sh$t ... pull the other leg
You must be a real Cobblers supporter then - you will be missed
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