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Compared with most other L2 clubs and even a few L1 our attendance yesterday compared favourably. And we started early!
compared favourably with what? small back water towns thats are barely a third of our size. No it doesn't and wont until NTFC becomes solely the towns football club and not an investment project for passing investors. |
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GrangeParkCobbler
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Wrexham pulled in over 4000 for their Vanarama game....Orient went even better with 5,500 for thier game......Edinburgh is doing a good job!
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clarkeysntfc
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If we were top of the conference, we would be pulling in 5,500 home fans.
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GrangeParkCobbler
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If we were top of the conference, we would be pulling in 5,500 home fans.
So going down wouldn't be such a bad thing?  |
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WadeyCobbler
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We've lost around 500 home fans since relegation last season, at £20 a head that's £10,000 per game, £123,000 over the season. Plus probably a similar amount of away fans (Morecambe brought just 96)! So almost £250,000 down this season in gate receipts alone. Add on to that possible, parking, programmes, food, drink, merchandise; it's a significant drop in income.
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GrangeParkCobbler
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2016/17 2017/18 2018/19
Aug - Fleetwood - 5048 - Sat Aug - Fleetwood - 5021 - Sat Aug - Lincoln - 4789 - Sat
Aug - Wimbledon - 4761 - Sat Aug - P@@h - 5278 - Sat Aug - Cambridge - 4395 - Sat
Aug - West Brom - 3967 - Tue (EFL Cup) Aug - Cambridge - 1310 - Tue (CHK) Sep - Tranmere - 4225 - Sat
Aug - Wycombe - 1334 - Tue (CHK) Sep - Donny - 5107 - Sat Sep - Wycombe - 897 - Tue (CHK)
Sep - MK Plastics - 5349 - Sun Sep - Pompey - 4702 - Tue Sep - Cheltenham - 4385 - Sat
Sep - Walsall - 4937 - Sat Sep - Bradford - 5210 - Sat Sep - Notts County - 4295 - Sat
Sep - Man Utd - 6854 - Wed (EFL Cup) Oct - Bristol Rovers - 5080 - Sat Oct - Bury - 3903 - Tues
Sep - Southend - 5368 - Sat Oct- AFC Wimbledon - 4805 - Sat Oct - Forest Green - 4839 - Sat
Oct - The Gas - 5645 - Sat Oct - Blackpool - 4842 - Sat Oct - Oldham Ath. - 4416 - Sat
Oct - Millwall - 5889 - Sat Nov - Scunny (FA Cup) - 2543 - Sat Nov - Crewe - 4732 - Sat
Oct - Bury - 5457 - Sat Nov - So'ton Juniors (CHK) - 1065 - Tues Nov - Fulham U21 - 1021 - Tue (CHK)
Nov - Harrow Borough - 2935 - Sat (FA Cup) Nov - Scunny - 4875 - Sat Nov - Grimsby Town - 4896 - Sat
Nov - West Ham U21's - 573 - Tues (CHK) Nov - Bury - 4640 - Sat Dec - Stevenage - 4416 - Sat
Nov - Peterborough - 6213 - Sat Dec - Walsall - 4661 - Sat Dec - Swindon - 4918 - Tues (Boxing Day)
Nov - Bolton Wanderers - 5754 - Sat Dec - Blackburn - 5096 - Sat Dec - MK Plastics - 5514 - Sat
Dec - Rochdale - 4986 - Sat Jan - Wigan - 4817 - Mon Jan - Bristol Rovers - 1215 - Tues (CHK)
Jan - Bradford City - 4964 - Mon Jan - Southend - 4703 - Sat Jan - Carlisle United - 4391 - Sat
Jan - Scunny - 5150 - Sat Jan - MK Plastics - 6021 - Sat Jan - Morecambe - 4416 - Sat
Jan - Coventry City - 6080 - Sat Feb - Rochdale - 5261 - Sat Feb - Colchester U - 4391 - Sat
Feb - Spirerites - 5372 - Sat Feb - Gillingham - 4704 - Tue
Feb - Swindle - 4671 - Tue Feb - Oxford - 5651 - Sat
Feb - Oldham - 4429 - Tue Mar - Rotherham - 4753 - Sat
Mar - Charlton - 5694 - Sat Mar - Shrewsbury - 4173 - Tue
Mar - Vale - 4564 - Tue Mar - Charlton - 5208 - Sat
Mar - Oxford - 6035 - Sat Apr - Plymouth - 5416 - Sat
Apr - Sheffield United - 5969 - Sat May - Oldham - 5058 - Sat
Apr - Shrewsbury - 5535 - Mon
Apr - Gillingham - 5980 - Sun
Home League attendance average 2016/17 123,850 Ave 5385 2017/18 115,082 Ave 5004 2018/19 72,741 Ave 4546 -9.15%
Pretty much comparable dates for the first SIXTEEN home league games of the season
Total 85,644 5353 home fans per game average 2016/17
Total 81,010 5063 home fans per game average 2017/18
Total 72,741 4546 home fans per game average 2018/19
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guest154
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long time since my last post, but i figure i'll my two penneth once more...
Besides the side playing badly and not representing value for money, the thing that puts me off attending most currently is our support.
20 plus pounds to sit in an almost totally negative enviroment for 2 hours takes it toll very quickly.
The malaise around the club needs lifting, and fast before the decline become irreversable.
sadly i have no solutions to offer, as i think they have all been talked to death. all the supporters can offer now is some real positivity towards the players because love them or hate them there are all thats here in what is now a very real relegation battle.
the persistant negative atmosphere is almost certainly not helping.
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Dan
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You talk about the fans needing to create a positive atmosphere. But aren't willing to come and try to assist that yourself  fantastic irony. This is absolutely nothing to do with the supporters. |
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FezNTFC
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all the supporters can offer now is some real positivity towards the players because love them or hate them there are all thats here in what is now a very real relegation battle.
the persistant negative atmosphere is almost certainly not helping.
Last year our players got applauded off the pitch by a sizeable section of the supporters after being relegated! I couldn't disagree with you more. Despite almost 18 months of consistent rubbish, it still hasn't really turned that ugly at Sixfields. Instead, it's just dead quiet, nobody can be arsed. After the fourth went in today there was a quiet mass exodus, myself included. I didn't bellow at them, I just resigned myself to yet another home whooping and silently went on my way. At other stadiums I've been to the players out there would have been roasted alive after conceding that pathetic fourth goal today. |
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GrangeParkCobbler
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Last year our players got applauded off the pitch by a sizeable section of the supporters after being relegated!
I couldn't disagree with you more. Despite almost 18 months of consistent rubbish, it still hasn't really turned that ugly at Sixfields. Instead, it's just dead quiet, nobody can be arsed. After the fourth went in today there was a quiet mass exodus, myself included. I didn't bellow at them, I just resigned myself to yet another home whooping and silently went on my way.
At other stadiums I've been to the players out there would have been roasted alive after conceding that pathetic fourth goal today.
Hits the nail on the head!! |
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clarkeysntfc
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I bet some muppets stayed and clapped like hungry sea lions today.
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Saint Cobbler
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Last year our players got applauded off the pitch by a sizeable section of the supporters after being relegated!
I couldn't disagree with you more. Despite almost 18 months of consistent rubbish, it still hasn't really turned that ugly at Sixfields. Instead, it's just dead quiet, nobody can be arsed. After the fourth went in today there was a quiet mass exodus, myself included. I didn't bellow at them, I just resigned myself to yet another home whooping and silently went on my way.
At other stadiums I've been to the players out there would have been roasted alive after conceding that pathetic fourth goal today.
But we haven't lost at home since September. |
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Dan
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We'd only won four in that time and three of them were when Curle had his new manager bounce. Since then we've had so many dire performances and have been fortunate to get points. Today's thrashing has been coming.
Fez is completely correct. That fourth goal was shamefully bad.
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GrangeParkCobbler
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https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/february/attendance_increase/Positive spin on anything!!! At the same stage back in 2016 in our title winning season......."of course crowds spkied towards the end of the season" He also seems to forget that there were no seats in the East Stand that season, our capacity was limited to 6400 and we couldn't give away fans more than the 900 odd in the South Stand. Appeantly we have grown our supporter base over the last few years.......really?? Compared to the same stage in 2016/17 (in league 1) we have lost 15% of our fans. Remember my figures are purely home fans, so it is more realistic than using overall gate figures when it doesnt take into account the away followings. Think of that....15% down......£20 a pop.....thats potentially £30k per game.......x23 games.....almost £700,000 less over the season. Not so positive looking now is it?
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Deepcut Cobbler
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2015/16 Season
16 league games total 'home fans' = 70,351/16 = 4397
23 league games total 'home fans' = 110,178/23 = 4790 - the final 7 home games averaged 5690.
2018/19
16 league games total 'home fans' = 72,921/16 = 4558 - which will probably not increase in the final 7 games.
Without the promotion factor, what they have said is correct by 161 home fans per game.
However that doesn't take into account the ones that we gained during the League 1 years, that we have since lost.
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BedsCobb
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https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/february/attendance_increase/Positive spin on anything!!! At the same stage back in 2016 in our title winning season......."of course crowds spkied towards the end of the season" He also seems to forget that there were no seats in the East Stand that season, our capacity was limited to 6400 and we couldn't give away fans more than the 900 odd in the South Stand. Appeantly we have grown our supporter base over the last few years.......really?? Compared to the same stage in 2016/17 (in league 1) we have lost 15% of our fans. Remember my figures are purely home fans, so it is more realistic than using overall gate figures when it doesnt take into account the away followings. Think of that....15% down......£20 a pop.....thats potentially £30k per game.......x23 games.....almost £700,000 less over the season. Not so positive looking now is it? They also forgot to mention that less than a paltry 1.5% of its catchment area bother to turn up. Also the town has expanded by 50,000 since 1994 but our gates have fallen. Bloody spindoctory 😂 |
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Deepcut Cobbler
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That's still based on total attendance not just the home support which for those with larger away areas makes them artificial figures. I see that it quotes The Saints whose support comes from across the County and probably country as opposed to being limited to the town of Northampton. It would be interesting to see what percentage of both the Cobblers and Saints support is from out of town. |
“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2009
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meccanostand
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1994-95 average attendance- 5086
2018/19 average attendance -5156
A growth of 70 in the Sixfields era, a period of unbridled wealth in the game. The population has risen. Bottom 4 in League 2 for attendance as % of population currently.
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Coolcat
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They also forgot to mention that less than a paltry 1.5% of its catchment area bother to turn up.
Also the town has expanded by 50,000 since 1994 but our gates have fallen.
Bloody spindoctory 😂
I have a cunning plan! Why not have a mass mail drop to the 98.5% of the Northamptonshire area, a leaflet telling the occupiers of each address what utter c***s they are? The leaflet could offer the remedy for not being such an utter c**t by getting themselves down to Sixfields. Complete salvation and a completely full stadium, meaning an undeniable necessity for a larger stadium! Doesn't even need Beds' businessmen!  |
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