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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2013, 21:37:37 pm »

Okay Coolcat...how many who live near MK do you think decided that Dons were their local team instead of Cobblers or Luton...3? 10? Yes of course there are stay aways coz they don't like it...but not 1200 odd. Despite the results this season, the football at Sixfields has been more entertaining than last season...except Morecambe perhaps

I know quite a few around the Newport, Wolverton, Stoney areas...none have defected..though  two or three stopped going to the Cobblers before there even was an MK Dons. Like I said, such an insignificant number as to have little or no bearing on the slight dip in attendances!
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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2013, 12:12:47 pm »

The crowds are lower now than they were 5+ years ago simply because NTFC hasn't done enough to retain the support.

Add to that a limp-wristed supporters trust who appear to do not much other than setting up car boot sales and sending a bloke along to board meetings, and you've got a club going nowhere.

Take Swansea, in one of the least economically prosperous areas of the UK as an example of an area where more and more people will turn up and watch the product if it's right.

Closer to home, the Saints' set up absolutely wipes the floor with NTFC's. You only have to spend 10 minutes in the 'village' they have at the Gardens to see that. As I remember the 'village' at Sixfields idea went in to the too difficult box.
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2013, 20:51:44 pm »

Good post Clarkey. Bang on the club have simply not done enough. Try to get a pint in Carrs bar and that will say it all.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2013, 21:21:06 pm »

Try to get a pint in Carrs bar and that will say it all.
Have you been in recently ?
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2013, 21:27:50 pm »

You are certainly correct about Carr's Bar - it's a shambles. The queuing process is random and annoying, the service slow, the choice of decent beer restricted. Of 5 separate pre-2.30pm attempts at getting a pint of real ale, I was successful on one matchday only, and that turned out to be the last pint because the poor sod in the queue behind me ordered one and it ran out after a few dribbles! Presumably once the stadium expansion has happened, there will be bigger drinking spaces and Carr's Bar won't be the heaving elbow-knocking beer-spilling crush that it is now. It's expensive, too, but I wouldn't mind paying that premium if it was a more comfortable place.
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2013, 22:08:34 pm »

Presumably once the stadium expansion has happened, there will be bigger drinking spaces and Carr's Bar won't be the heaving elbow-knocking beer-spilling crush that it is now. It's expensive, too, but I wouldn't mind paying that premium if it was a more comfortable place.
It would appear that the stadium expansion is taking place around the East Stand, and nothing will change with regard to the facilities in the West.
An opportunity missed I feel, that those who have been to Stevenage, Forest Green, or even Hereford will testify to.
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« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2013, 08:11:32 am »

If east stand becomes the one with changing rooms and new restaurant etc. facilities, then more space opens up in west stand, however I doubt if anyone has got that far yet in planning!
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« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2013, 08:29:15 am »

Swansea is the bench mark, I think it's fair to say that if you took 30 similar size clubs as NTFC from 10 years ago our 'progress' would be pretty much average. Many have fallen out of the league for starters, or at least had a spell out of the league.

Our facilities have remained the same during that spell. Swansea got their all singing all dancing new stadium as
did Hull and Cardiff who were both no better than us back then. Or in Hulls
Case it might have been a year or two before that.

Other clubs that are doing ok with new grounds are of course Rotherham and Chesterfied but that's very recent progress.

DC fell into the trap of not investing in Sixields ten years ago because the redevelopment was always 'just around the corner'. I can see why he didn't. We've now pretty much hit rock bottom for us but a look at the division above and Sheffielld UTD are actually doing worse points wise than we are and they are huge! Not to mention Pompey. We've just stagnated, let's hope the new facilities will properly kick start our progress over the next 2-3 seasons.
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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2013, 10:18:43 am »

We can all talk about the facilities at Sixfields until we are blue in the face but the fact is it will be results and progression on the field
that sees bigger gates there , not the relative delights of Carrs bar or whether the pies are any good.( Carrs isn't that bad , by the way )
The more I think about it the more I am leaning towards a sustained period of keeping the same manager , taking the rough with the smooth , and hoping that the DC / AB master plan comes good. A move to attractive football and a steady climb up the division will bring the crowds back , of that there is no doubt ........ irrespective of the development , which I will only believe in when the diggers start arriving.
I don't need a hotel or two seats to sit in when I watch the Cobbs anyway.
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« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2013, 12:19:18 pm »

The more I think about it the more I am leaning towards a sustained period of keeping the same manager , taking the rough with the smooth , and hoping that the DC / AB master plan comes good.

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« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2013, 13:51:48 pm »

I don't need a hotel or two seats to sit in when I watch the Cobbs anyway.
No but wouldn't it be nice for the club to be earning money at 3am on a Wednesday night?
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« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2013, 16:14:04 pm »

No but wouldn't it be nice for the club to be earning money at 3am on a Wednesday night?
It would indeed Marquis but is there any guarantee that any of the profits from the hotel or housing will be coming back to NTFC ? ,
and anyway even if they were wouldn't DC want some of his 9 million back first ? .
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« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2013, 17:59:00 pm »

even if the hotel was sold on with no recurring payment in the deal all this stuff needs building for the long term future of the club
Way I'm led to believe it works is:
We borrow £12m and build the ground up - including larger conference stuff. This provides the ongoing 24/7 income
We sell off the land for housing and whatever and use the money from this to pay back the £12m loan over the next few years
Something like that anyway
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« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2013, 18:16:05 pm »

A decade or so ago we beat Swansea in the play off final, we bring 30,000 they bring 19,000. Look at where we both are now. Says it all really.
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« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2013, 18:18:03 pm »

return of the prodigal son Wink
Never went away Evers , its just that I don't think we've got much choice at the moment.
Replacing AB would just put us back to where we were 2 years ago.
I will still lambaste him on here whenever he screws up though. ( like this summers recruitment policy and his love in with a platypus )
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« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2013, 18:50:03 pm »

A decade or so ago we beat Swansea in the play off final, we bring 30,000 they bring 19,000. Look at where we both are now. Says it all really.

2 years ago we drew 1-1 with Conference North Stockport in a vital relegation clash in front of a crowd of 4807. Their most recent attendance was just under half this.

Our current situation could be a lot better, and it also could be a lot worse!
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« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2013, 19:18:56 pm »

It would appear that the stadium expansion is taking place around the East Stand, and nothing will change with regard to the facilities in the West.
An opportunity missed I feel, that those who have been to Stevenage, Forest Green, or even Hereford will testify to.
Add Barnet to that list
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« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2013, 20:03:51 pm »

A decade or so ago we beat Swansea in the play off final, we bring 30,000 they bring 19,000. Look at where we both are now. Says it all really.

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« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2013, 20:13:59 pm »

Grimsby?

Yeah exactly. I get bored of every sign of progress being compared to Swansea, and every loanee being compared to Jermaine Defoe!
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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2013, 20:54:42 pm »

Grimsby?
Exactly!
Beat me to it.
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