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« Reply #460 on: February 22, 2015, 11:44:19 am »

Updated again:

2014/15 Season:
Aug - The Stags     - 4302 - Sat
Aug - The Shrews   - 3927 - Sat
Aug - The Grecians - 3840 - Sat
Sep - M/Hangers    - 3523 - Tue
Sep - Accies           - 4663 - Sat
Oct - Burton           - 4596 - Sat
Oct - Poxford          - 3645 - Tue
Nov - Real Dons      - 4080 - Sat
Nov - Rochdale       - 2358 - Sat (FA Cup)
Nov - Stevenage     - 4122 - Sat
Dec - Plymouth       - 3753 - Sat
Dec - Bury              - 4261 - Fri (Boxing Day)
Jan - Southend        - 3786 - Sat
Jan - Daggers          - 3966 - Sat
Jan - Newport         - 3957 - Sat
Feb - Morecambe     - 4179 - Sat
Feb - York               - 4245 - Sat
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« Reply #461 on: February 22, 2015, 13:43:20 pm »

Interesting, stats here shows our crowds over the last 10 years have slowly dropped

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/nort.htm

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« Reply #462 on: February 22, 2015, 14:27:02 pm »

I could have told you that. We used to get 53/55 now it's around 43/45
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« Reply #463 on: February 22, 2015, 14:45:51 pm »

Alright grumpy, who put 50p in you this morning!!

Still got a chance of having our biggest average attendance for 4 or 5 years, especially with Cambridge, Luton and Portsmouth still to come and our excellent current form. Only negative is we will only be able to sell 980 away seats as there is no East Stand over spill.
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« Reply #464 on: February 22, 2015, 15:10:04 pm »

Dropping out of LEague one will have knocked a few off the home gates, but it also drops the away gate to sub 50 some times
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« Reply #465 on: February 22, 2015, 15:21:08 pm »

Only 900 away fans allowed in, at least that's what Pompey have been allocated. Considering there's only room for 4850 home fans we should have a few sell outs if we continue to entertain!
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« Reply #466 on: February 22, 2015, 15:22:19 pm »

Interesting, stats here shows our crowds over the last 10 years have slowly dropped

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/nort.htm



IMO football has changed massively over the past generation. In terms of choice there are now numerous options for entertainment (especially for families) and I personally think football has fallen way behind in recognising that it needs to adapt. I don't think it's a coincidence that our Wembley support was so dramatically different less than 20 years apart.
At the top end its not far off being a £60+ corporate day out. Any visit to Arsenal, Chelsea or United confirms that. At the bottom end a £60 family trip to watch league two football is unjustifiable. A trip to the cinema, ice hockey, basketball, even a theme park on deals is far better VFM. Maybe more importantly they all try a lot harder to make it an enjoyable experience.
The next couple of generations will really test the longevity of lower league football in its current pricing structure. As for the top flight, that died years ago in terms of being a magical and atmospheric day out.
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« Reply #467 on: February 22, 2015, 18:45:25 pm »

Plus many people from South northants/bucks are now getting their football fix at stadium mk.
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« Reply #468 on: February 22, 2015, 19:27:23 pm »

IMO football has changed massively over the past generation. In terms of choice there are now numerous options for entertainment (especially for families) and I personally think football has fallen way behind in recognising that it needs to adapt. I don't think it's a coincidence that our Wembley support was so dramatically different less than 20 years apart.
At the top end its not far off being a £60+ corporate day out. Any visit to Arsenal, Chelsea or United confirms that. At the bottom end a £60 family trip to watch league two football is unjustifiable. A trip to the cinema, ice hockey, basketball, even a theme park on deals is far better VFM. Maybe more importantly they all try a lot harder to make it an enjoyable experience.
The next couple of generations will really test the longevity of lower league football in its current pricing structure. As for the top flight, that died years ago in terms of being a magical and atmospheric day out.

In the 80s it was £8 for the main stand and £5 for the Hotel End - that's equivalent to £22 and £15 in today's money.
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« Reply #469 on: February 22, 2015, 19:50:06 pm »

In the 80s it was £8 for the main stand and £5 for the Hotel End - that's equivalent to £22 and £15 in today's money.
That would be late 80s though...remember paying my first visit to Highfield Rd in 81/82 season...
( old) Div 1 v Notts County, 8,102 from what remember but, was a then extortinate £5 entrance to their newly (first in England) all seated stadium. Think Hotel End was around £2.50 in those days.
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« Reply #470 on: February 22, 2015, 20:23:41 pm »

That would be late 80s though...remember paying my first visit to Highfield Rd in 81/82 season...
( old) Div 1 v Notts County, 8,102 from what remember but, was a then extortinate £5 entrance to their newly (first in England) all seated stadium. Think Hotel End was around £2.50 in those days.

That's interesting, I can't for the life of me remember how much it was in those days. The £5 you were charged at Coventry works out to around £22 in today's money so they were ahead of their time.
I took the prices from the photograph of Len Dainty in the other thread, it shows them in the background but only describes the date as the 80s. Of course, there was proper inflation in the early 80s so I guess the prices for 1980 were a lot different to 1989.
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« Reply #471 on: February 23, 2015, 18:34:30 pm »

Also interesting, by chance the cover photo of the latest Hotel Enders fanzine shows Abington Avenue with a Main Stand admission of £2.50! Guess around 78/79 time...when I first went in 79, the Hotel End was £1.90.
The blog. photo also shows OB outside turnstiles with yellow hi viz jackets...sure they didn't hit the scene till around at least 85 time.
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« Reply #472 on: February 23, 2015, 19:01:51 pm »

That's interesting, I can't for the life of me remember how much it was in those days. The £5 you were charged at Coventry works out to around £22 in today's money so they were ahead of their time.
I took the prices from the photograph of Len Dainty in the other thread, it shows them in the background but only describes the date as the 80s. Of course, there was proper inflation in the early 80s so I guess the prices for 1980 were a lot different to 1989.


In that photo it looks like the Hotel End was £6 to get in, with a £4 price for Senior Citizens and Unemployed.

I seem to remember when I first started going in 1982/83 (or around that time) the Hotel End price was £3.60
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« Reply #473 on: February 23, 2015, 19:04:53 pm »

Well the Luton game will be a sell out.
I know plenty of Luton fans who have got tickets....
For the North stand!!!
There will be up to two thousand travelling so with only 900 tickets there will be literally hundreds in the home ends....
Could be cobblers fans unable to get in.
Should be an atmosphere for once!!!
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« Reply #474 on: February 23, 2015, 20:12:56 pm »

plenty = 2
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« Reply #475 on: February 23, 2015, 20:13:29 pm »

up to two thousand = up to 900
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« Reply #476 on: February 23, 2015, 20:25:27 pm »


I seem to remember when I first started going in 1982/83 (or around that time) the Hotel End price was £3.60

Used to queue at the Kop (Anfield) from about 1:30pm at the turn of the 80's. Cash only £3.
I can remember my ST for the County Ground being around £70 in the early 80's. That was as a junior so it's not much more now.
It's not just about the money, the world is a very different place. I can't think of much else I'd be doing back then. Maybe 10 pin bowling in Coventry or ice skating in Solihull!

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« Reply #477 on: February 24, 2015, 11:32:06 am »

up to two thousand = up to 900
There will be hundreds in the home end.
They've been taking a couple of thousand to places like Oxford.
Your very naive if you think that Luton fans aren't already buying tickets for this game because they are!!
They have over 3500 season ticket holders!!!
2000 into 900 doesn't go.
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« Reply #478 on: February 24, 2015, 11:56:36 am »

You have to be on the database to buy tickets. Bedfordshire addresses would flag up. I even got an email to tell me I'd bought tickets for Mansfield away.
If there's over 1000 Luton fans in the home end I'll let you stay, if they're isn't then you leave the board forever. Deal?
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« Reply #479 on: February 24, 2015, 12:12:51 pm »

Aside from any fans who may be in the home end, I hope that the redevelopment will sort out our away capacity so that we can accommodate (and earn the £££ from) large away followings.

Regardless of the East Stand closure, in the next few weeks we are likely to have insufficient capacity for Portsmouth, Luton, Cambridge and Wycombe  fans.

Hopefully DC's comment about having at least 2,000 away seats will come to pass, as we must be losing a good £40k in ticket sales alone on those games.
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