Disappearing Punters?

[LeeleeSTAR]

They actually put it up on the big screen these days.

I've never noticed them break it down on the screen before.

[Artlenock Cobbler]

I've never noticed them break it down on the screen before.

TBH yesterday was the first time I'd noticed it, thats not to say they hadn't put previous away attendances.

[GrangeParkCobbler]

2015/16 version......
Aug - Blackpool (C/C)   -  2244 - Tue
Aug - The Grecians      - 3997 - Sat
Aug - Plymouth           - 3795 - Sat
Sep - Col U (Paint Pot) - 1255 - Tue
Sep - Daggers            - 3911 - Sat
Sep - Oxford              - 3907 - Sat
Sep - Orient               - 4261 - Sat
Oct - Hartlepool          - 4273 - Sat
Oct - Carlisle              - 3388 - Tue  (Lowest home league crowd since 23rd October 2012)
Oct - Stevenage         - 4158 - Sat
Nov - Mansfield          - 4562 - Sat
Nov - Yeovil              - 4790 - Sat

[corno_ntfc]

So the idea of splitting the south stand to fit in more home support was simply hot air then , plenty of empty seats today

[HertsCobbler]

So the idea of splitting the south stand to fit in more home support was simply hot air then , plenty of empty seats today

I would hardly say plenty.  I think the West and North combined hold around 4,900. Best home turnout all season - expect that the Pompey game will be very full.

[GrangeParkCobbler]

I would hardly say plenty.  I think the West and North combined hold around 4,900. Best home turnout all season - expect that the Pompey game will be very full.

Yep, by capacity there were only around 100 home seats vacant today, Pompey will sell out easily!!

[Bingers]

Oct - Carlisle              - 3388 - Tue  (Lowest home league crowd since 23rd October 2012)
Oct - Stevenage         - 4158 - Sat
Nov - Mansfield          - 4562 - Sat
Nov - Yeovil              - 4790 - Sat

Might have to rename this thread reappearing punters.  Although if Herts calculations are right, we could only get 120ish more home supporters.

I wonder if Uncle Kelvin has thought about doing something with the East Stand.  That could let a few more in.

[HertsCobbler]

According to Simon Inglis's Football Ground Book

West Stand 3955
North 971

Total = 4,926 (this I believe includes the elevated wheel chair areas at the front of the stands).

[BedsCobb]

Kelvin and  Trust..get it sorted. What you got

[guest2539]

Bingers, Uncle Kelvin has said he is trying to make improvements to the East Stand but obviously there are limiting factors.
He is in discussions with Buckinghams.

[LeeleeSTAR]

Bingers, Uncle Kelvin has said he is trying to make improvements to the East Stand but obviously there are limiting factors.
He is in discussions with Buckinghams.

Unfortunately the limiting factors are that the roof is on and that the shells for the boxes are already in.  Without trying to run seats up the sides of the existing boxes and having some with limited view then there is no way of increasing the seated capacity.  The only option really is probably to increase the number of boxes.  I can't see them taking the roof off, removing the boxes, increases the number of rows of seats and then rebuilding boxes at the back and putting the roof back on.  This obviously would involve building more footings and a new back wall.  In all this would surely be too expensive but it's the only way of making the east stand into anything other than crap.

The current planned seating for the east stand will mean that you can get wet in every seat in the stand now that the roof is higher than the old east stand.

[guest2608]

So the idea of splitting the south stand to fit in more home support was simply hot air then , plenty of empty seats today

I don't think it was hot air..... they said, if they sold out the north and west, they had made arrangements to split the south.
They didn't, so they didn't....

[Cobbler78]

Unfortunately the limiting factors are that the roof is on and that the shells for the boxes are already in.  Without trying to run seats up the sides of the existing boxes and having some with limited view then there is no way of increasing the seated capacity.  The only option really is probably to increase the number of boxes.  I can't see them taking the roof off, removing the boxes, increases the number of rows of seats and then rebuilding boxes at the back and putting the roof back on.  This obviously would involve building more footings and a new back wall.  In all this would surely be too expensive but it's the only way of making the east stand into anything other than crap.

The current planned seating for the east stand will mean that you can get wet in every seat in the stand now that the roof is higher than the old east stand.

Personally I don't think we need extra seats in the East Stand. What is more important for me, especially if we get promoted is to make the South stand capable of holding around 2000. Even this season we will have 4 or 5 teams who will sell out the away end, in League One that will be double figures with a stand holding under 1000. We have not sold out the 5000 home seats we currently have for over 2 years, so to have the East Stand finished with 1,500 seats (making it 6500 home seats) is fine for me. Doubling the South Stand (to include a decent away fans bar) will be the cheapest option I would say, in time and if needed we could then double the North Stand to also include a bar and that will give us a ground just shy of 10,000 with two good bars for additional revenue.

[lordjord]

I agree the away end is a huge source of missed income. Even in this league Luton, Pompey, oxford and a few others will sell out. Certainly would be the case in league 1, that certainly needs looking at.

[guest2539]

Plus the option of increasing the capacity by filling in the corners, with the added bonus of improving the atmosphere with the enclosed stadium.
Probably cheaper than dismantleing the East stand and amending the plans, something for the Championship?

[The 12th Marquis of Sixfields]

We could just make the stands run the width/length of the pitch and add about 1000. I know it's inevitable but I hate identikit bowl grounds. Where am I? Southampton? Reading? Leicester? Derby? Middlesbro? Swansea? Cardiff? Doncaster? Big fan of four distinct stands like Notts County. One of the finest 'new' grounds is Huddersfield.

[tcobb]

Could this thread be renamed "reappearing punters"

I like the Marquis idea, the East stand is in sections, wonder how much it would cost to add one section on each end ?

[BedsCobb]

As an immediate remedial to the problem is to shutter off the building site completely in 18mm plywood with portaloos in the back of the exists.
Put the 1800 seats back in place and sell the tickets.
This would give us time to organise the building of the east stand properly.
In fact why hasn't this been done already?
It would take a few days for minimal outlay.

[Alwaysdark]

If I was put in charge of any redesign I would introduce a trap door or two under the seating in the east stand. At the touch of a button a trap door could open and simultaneously the seat tip forward making the "punter" disappear into a pit below chocked full of clowns, mushrooms and pantomime horses   

[Alwaysdark]

In fact why hasn't this been done already?

Ah, please take a seat in my redesigned east stand and I will tell you